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That's the best I can explain how they Lynx are psychically powerful. The Emperor is an exception. He broke the medium frequency of the Warp, but still uses its power. That basically alters nothing in the rulebook, but explains why he's really psychically powerful in frequency terms.

I'm fairly certain he/she is not trolling, just very naive.


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Mynameisalie wrote:That's the best I can explain how they Lynx are psychically powerful. The Emperor is an exception. He broke the medium frequency of the Warp, but still uses its power. That basically alters nothing in the rulebook, but explains why he's really psychically powerful in frequency terms.

Except adding an entire new dimension/reality to how the universe works.

Generally, if your concept is 'X but BETTER!' you are off to a bad start.

blood reaper wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:Yes they're psychic, but they don't vibrate on the same frequency. Think of the material universe as really low frequency, the Warp as medium, ad the Shadow Dimension as High. The higher up you go in frequency, the more powerful you become as a psyker. The energy is like data transfer. The higher frequency, the more data/energy you get per second, the faster/better your internet/psychic powers are!

No.

Now I am really, really sure your trolling or you know nothing of the fluff. This can't be saved, time to abandon ship.

Nothing of the fluff. Absolutely nothing. Not trolling at all. I am being completely serious.

Mynameisalie wrote:That's the best I can explain how they Lynx are psychically powerful. The Emperor is an exception. He broke the medium frequency of the Warp, but still uses its power. That basically alters nothing in the rulebook, but explains why he's really psychically powerful in frequency terms.

My troll detector is off the charts.

The Warp is the Warp, nothing else generates the power of the Warp unless it's connected to the warp.

Your fluff is ridiculous and ruins the established fluff.

Still working on psychic powers. Just a little more to go. The reason there are so many pages is because it's like a pick and mix thing. You get some bases, and then some things on the side.

Mynameisalie wrote:

blood reaper wrote:Now I am really, really sure your trolling or you know nothing of the fluff. This can't be saved, time to abandon ship.

Nothing of the fluff. Absolutely nothing. Not trolling at all. I am being completely serious.

Okay, maybe before starting to write your own fluff/race, you should go back and understand the setting a bit better and the established fluff.

I am seriously considering shutting this down until i get the codex sorted out...

Mynameisalie wrote:Still working on psychic powers. Just a little more to go. The reason there are so many pages is because it's like a pick and mix thing. You get some bases, and then some things on the side.

Alright, one last post and then I'm unsubscribing.

Stop writing powers. Stop writing rules.

Get your fundamentals straight before proceeding.

OK, because you know nothing off the fluff, this entire project has just slammed into a brick wall named "common sense."

i know the established fluff. Imperium of man prospers, Emperor rises, he's psychic, the warp is a dimension full of godforsaken daemons and it's where psykers get their power from. Horus heresy, space marines become chaos, quite a few remain loyalist, Emperor kills Horus but dies in the attempt, and is now a skeleton atop a golden throne. He's dead, and alive.


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That's the one set in the rulebook.


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I never have got a rulebook as well.

I don't like your statlines at all.

Space Marines are genetically engineered super humans with 2 hearts. They are like Pro Football and Pro Basketball Players combined into one. They are Strength and Toughness 4. They have spent their entire lives- which number in the centuries- training and they are weapon skill and ballistic skill 4.

Your Bladelord is a perfect example of just going over the top. Lets look at your "melee" variation. You've basically got a Hive Tyrant who wears Artificer Armour with a Storm Shield- and is as fast as a Dark Eldar Archon.

I have to agree with everybody else that your stats are way out of control. I think your best bet, is to focus on "hunting", Eldar and Dark Eldar have speed. Space Marines and Imperial Guard have oppressive force. Tyranids have Monsters, Orks have sheer numbers, Tau have the best ranged weapons in the game, and Sisters of Battle have boobs (I mean faith ). Stealth as a unifying feature is still relatively open for grabs.

Check out this basic stat line for a grunt member of the species.

ws: 4 | bs: 4 | s: 3 | t: 3 | w:1 | I: 4 | a: 1 | ld: 7 | sv: 5+
Special Rules: Stealth, Infiltrate, Night Vision

Then you can focus on abilities, weapons, and armor that focus on deploying your troops in good position (like an upgrade letting you re deploy), and improving cover saves, gaining bonuses as opposed to penalties when charging through cover, re-rolling mysterious terrain and objectives, etc.

Really drive home stalking the enemy as an overarching theme. As opposed to smash the enemy to little bits with super duper equipment and abilities- which is really the GK's schtick.

I find the idea of nimble cat people stalking through dense terrain and waging guerrilla warfare a lot more interesting then Space Furry GKs who charge headlong into their foes and shred them.

Mynameisalie wrote:i know the established fluff. Imperium of man prospers, Emperor rises, he's psychic, the warp is a dimension full of godforsaken daemons and it's where psykers get their power from. Horus heresy, space marines become chaos, quite a few remain loyalist, Emperor kills Horus but dies in the attempt, and is now a skeleton atop a golden throne. He's dead, and alive.

So you know a tiny amount.

A man named William Shakespeare once said "Breavity is the Soul of Wit", it basically means don't waste my time.

You've never heard of Shakesspeare.

But you are a troll.

pretre wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:Still working on psychic powers. Just a little more to go. The reason there are so many pages is because it's like a pick and mix thing. You get some bases, and then some things on the side.

Alright, one last post and then I'm unsubscribing.

Stop writing powers. Stop writing rules.

Get your fundamentals straight before proceeding.

Suggestions? I know exactly what you are going to say as well...

Mynameisalie wrote:

pretre wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:Still working on psychic powers. Just a little more to go. The reason there are so many pages is because it's like a pick and mix thing. You get some bases, and then some things on the side.

Alright, one last post and then I'm unsubscribing.

Stop writing powers. Stop writing rules.

Get your fundamentals straight before proceeding.

Suggestions? I know exactly what you are going to say as well...

Stop trolling.

Mynameisalie wrote:

pretre wrote:Alright, one last post and then I'm unsubscribing.

Stop writing powers. Stop writing rules.

Get your fundamentals straight before proceeding.

Suggestions? I know exactly what you are going to say as well...

Ugh, drawn back in.

I just gave you my suggestions.

Stop writing powers. Stop writing rules.

Get your fundamentals straight before proceeding.

Fundamentals = A unique concept that isn't just 'X but BETTER!' and doesn't break existing fluff/canon. Develop the concept and background. Bring it back here and talk to people about it. Rinse, repeat until you get a good concept. Only THEN write the rules.

blood reaper wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:i know the established fluff. Imperium of man prospers, Emperor rises, he's psychic, the warp is a dimension full of godforsaken daemons and it's where psykers get their power from. Horus heresy, space marines become chaos, quite a few remain loyalist, Emperor kills Horus but dies in the attempt, and is now a skeleton atop a golden throne. He's dead, and alive.

So you know a tiny amount.

A man named William Shakespeare once said "Breavity is the Soul of Wit", it basically means don't waste my time.

You've never heard of Shakesspeare.

Born late 1800's i think. Wrote many plays that were mostly comedies, tragedies or romances. His most well know is Hamlet, which is where to be or not to be originates from. Others include a Midsummer Night's dream and Romeo and Juliet.
Most of my time is dedicated to reading non-fiction. Don't assume someone is an idiot cause their imagination is a bit off-the-leash.
I also know how the space marines are created, some of the primarchs, the fact they are the Emperor's "sons"...

Mynameisalie wrote:

blood reaper wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:i know the established fluff. Imperium of man prospers, Emperor rises, he's psychic, the warp is a dimension full of godforsaken daemons and it's where psykers get their power from. Horus heresy, space marines become chaos, quite a few remain loyalist, Emperor kills Horus but dies in the attempt, and is now a skeleton atop a golden throne. He's dead, and alive.

So you know a tiny amount.

A man named William Shakespeare once said "Breavity is the Soul of Wit", it basically means don't waste my time.

You've never heard of Shakesspeare.

Born late 1800's i think. Wrote many plays that were mostly comedies, tragedies or romances. His most well know is Hamlet, which is where to be or not to be originates from. Others include a Midsummer Night's dream and Romeo and Juliet.
Most of my time is dedicated to reading non-fiction. Don't assume someone is an idiot cause their imagination is a bit off-the-leash.
I also know how the space marines are created, some of the primarchs, the fact they are the Emperor's "sons"...

Trolly Trolly troll. Seriously, even if you where trying to form this into some sort of coherent mess, you've failed. I'm out of the sinking ship.

Please don't accuse other posters of trolling. User the modalert button instead. Thanks.

Ok you wan to start a new race but you are oing about it all wrong you need to understand the 40k univirse first read the wiki on it then make the race

Infact make your race super under powered that way you can work them up to being balanced

You want them all to be pykers thats fine insted of giveing them all powers just have it show they have hightened scences boosted by the warp givein them a 5+ preperation roll when attacked for a chance to dodge the attack then use yor saveing throw

I dont want to be mean but this is just plain god awful its a poor attemt to bring a new race into the game and things like this make it hard for people who really try to see new races, will never see them because no one will take themseriously. Just stop now, go read the whole 6th rule book a few codexis and the wili on the warp th iom and the emperor then sit down and really spend some time balanceing the army

pretre wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:

pretre wrote:Alright, one last post and then I'm unsubscribing.

Stop writing powers. Stop writing rules.

Get your fundamentals straight before proceeding.

Suggestions? I know exactly what you are going to say as well...

Ugh, drawn back in.

I just gave you my suggestions.

Stop writing powers. Stop writing rules.

Get your fundamentals straight before proceeding.

Fundamentals = A unique concept that isn't just 'X but BETTER!' and doesn't break existing fluff/canon. Develop the concept and background. Bring it back here and talk to people about it. Rinse, repeat until you get a good concept. Only THEN write the rules.

I. Am. Crap. At. That. I literally come up with the army, and that's about it. Fluff I just cannot do. I am trying to make a unique concept here but i am sealed within the metaphorical room that is the Warhammer 40k universe. They are not just x but BETTER. They're unique. They are the LYNX. They are xenos with unique psychic abilities bestowed on them by accident when they did something incredibly stupid. They had an empire in another galaxy, but Tyranids came and ravaged it. The survivors then decided to come to this galaxy to try and claw back a living. On the way here they were attacked 5 days and nights straight by an army of Greater Daemons in the middle of space. That cut down their number even further. They found a planet, settled and were quiet for 237 years. Then an Imperial vessel finds their planet. GK sent to kill them, they don't. Due to a fight between the Lynx and GK and the Daemons, the Grey knights saw battle prowess and psychic prowess that could be harnessed and used for the Imperium's gain. Now they work as mercenaries of the Imperium, and are friends with most of the Space Marine Chapters.
There. I am sick and tired of being accused of trolling, having no common sense or know nothing about anything.


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And have you ever heard of the adjective, Naive (can't do the umlaut, sorry), blood reaper? You are accusing me of trolling cause i put forward a new army idea. How on Earth is that trolling? At all?

pretre wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:And now i have more than 5 pages of pp. Yeah, now i think i'm starting to go a bit too far...
I wasn't really thinking about the powers much either...

Yes. You are putting the cart before the horse. Get a decent background and concept before just churning out powers and army lists.

This. Think through your race first. Why did they come here? What is their relationship with each faction? Why does each faction view them this way? How do they wage war? What is their technology level? How numerous are they? How large is their republic, empire, kingdom, federation, or whatever their state is called?

For example the Imperium would answer the following questions as such
1. They reconquered numerous human worlds and xenos worlds during the great crusade and have existed ever since.
2. They look down on pretty much all non-humans and hate chaos, but are capable of compromising when the need arises.
3. Humanity believes in its own superiority and manifest destiny, viewing all other species as an inevitable enemy.
4. The Imperial Guard relies on blunt force through numbers and firepower, the space marines rely on speed and precision.
5. Middle of the road, they are slowly losing technology, but are still one of the most advanced factions in the setting, behind Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Necrons.
6. They are the second or third most numerous sapient species in the galaxy, only outnumbered by the Orks and possibly Tyranids.
7. They control the majority of the galaxy, however their empire is not contiguous, with various xenos and independent human empires scattered throughout the Imperium.

Fluff isn't hard, think of it like a story that can be organized as bullet points to make it easier for you.

Mynameisalie wrote:
There. I am sick and tired of being accused of trolling, having no common sense or know nothing about anything.

Welcome to the internet. Don't expect the internet to help you build anything. The internet is for tearing your ideas down. If you want to use the Internet as a useful tool in creation, you need to create a work product that you believe is the best that you can do, and you are looking to the internet specifically to find holes in your logic, and imbalances that you might have missed. If you came looking on the interent for support and creating help, I'm afraid this is the wrong place.

That said not everybody is out to get you. My last post a little further up was actually trying to be helpful- although suggesting a much different cat person build than you are intending. But your stuff is too OTT right now and needs to be dialed back.

blood reaper wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:

blood reaper wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:i know the established fluff. Imperium of man prospers, Emperor rises, he's psychic, the warp is a dimension full of godforsaken daemons and it's where psykers get their power from. Horus heresy, space marines become chaos, quite a few remain loyalist, Emperor kills Horus but dies in the attempt, and is now a skeleton atop a golden throne. He's dead, and alive.

So you know a tiny amount.

A man named William Shakespeare once said "Breavity is the Soul of Wit", it basically means don't waste my time.

You've never heard of Shakesspeare.

Born late 1800's i think. Wrote many plays that were mostly comedies, tragedies or romances. His most well know is Hamlet, which is where to be or not to be originates from. Others include a Midsummer Night's dream and Romeo and Juliet.
Most of my time is dedicated to reading non-fiction. Don't assume someone is an idiot cause their imagination is a bit off-the-leash.
I also know how the space marines are created, some of the primarchs, the fact they are the Emperor's "sons"...

Trolly Trolly troll. Seriously, even if you where trying to form this into some sort of coherent mess, you've failed. I'm out of the sinking ship.

If you are going to be like that, get off this topic and STAY OFF! I want to talk civilized with people who sympathize and understand I am a newbie so I don't understand much about the Warhammer 40k universe. Now, I would like to say if anyone else is going to be an exact replica of this guy, please do not reply to this topic.

Friends with marine chapters? MOST of them?

No. Just no.

I would suggest that you read some of the threads in the 40k background section to get the feel for this franchise before trying to add to it. A lot of people are going to find what you're doing silly and presumptuous as you don't seem to have invested any time in learning about the fluff. So calm down and do a little more research.

Backspacehacker wrote:Ok you wan to start a new race but you are oing about it all wrong you need to understand the 40k univirse first read the wiki on it then make the race

Infact make your race super under powered that way you can work them up to being balanced

You want them all to be pykers thats fine insted of giveing them all powers just have it show they have hightened scences boosted by the warp givein them a 5+ preperation roll when attacked for a chance to dodge the attack then use yor saveing throw

I dont want to be mean but this is just plain god awful its a poor attemt to bring a new race into the game and things like this make it hard for people who really try to see new races, will never see them because no one will take themseriously. Just stop now, go read the whole 6th rule book a few codexis and the wili on the warp th iom and the emperor then sit down and really spend some time balanceing the army

Unlike a lot of people I don't have money. I am 14. I do't get allowance, so I can't buy anything. I wish I did have the 6th ed rulebook, but that's just not an option right now. I know more than people would assume I know about the Warhammer 40k universe, but like I said earlier, it's constraining me. Holding me back. I can't make this race with what I have now. I am trying to bend the metaphorical rules a bit so they can fit in at least.
But I see where you are going with the UP thing. I was planning to balance them out with a very high point cost and fit some drawbacks on their special rules. E.g: If they roll a 6,6, in a psychic test, the Lynx using the power dies instantly. Eternal warrior reduces the model to 1 wound instead. Then, all the rest of the squad takes a Perils of the Warp, no saves allowed, which is 1 wound of damage. If you had bad luck with the dice, half your army may just go bye-bye in a single turn. I understand the equality thing.
The fluff? Like I said, it's hard to work with what I have got, but I am trying my best to slip round some things and agree with others. I just need time and ideas. If anyone wants to add anything, put it here. It's hard. The GW people have several people working on a single codex. I'm just me. So I am trying hard to get it all to fit.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warhammer_40,000#.UAiCVmt5mSM
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity

Enjoy.

Mynameisalie wrote:

Backspacehacker wrote:Ok you wan to start a new race but you are oing about it all wrong you need to understand the 40k univirse first read the wiki on it then make the race

Infact make your race super under powered that way you can work them up to being balanced

You want them all to be pykers thats fine insted of giveing them all powers just have it show they have hightened scences boosted by the warp givein them a 5+ preperation roll when attacked for a chance to dodge the attack then use yor saveing throw

I dont want to be mean but this is just plain god awful its a poor attemt to bring a new race into the game and things like this make it hard for people who really try to see new races, will never see them because no one will take themseriously. Just stop now, go read the whole 6th rule book a few codexis and the wili on the warp th iom and the emperor then sit down and really spend some time balanceing the army

Unlike a lot of people I don't have money. I am 14. I do't get allowance, so I can't buy anything. I wish I did have the 6th ed rulebook, but that's just not an option right now.

Well maybe, you should wait a bit until you can get it, until you start making, introducing and statting up your rediculous new race. I've got nothing against you making a new army, but you NEED some experience if you want people to take you and the things you make seriously.

Advocacy of IP piracy is not okay on Dakka, me hearty! Unless ...



~ Manchu

Ok i would not advice to pirate any thing but wikis are free.

And try to find a way to make cash this is an exspensive hobby to do

Mynameisalie wrote:

Backspacehacker wrote:Ok you wan to start a new race but you are oing about it all wrong you need to understand the 40k univirse first read the wiki on it then make the race

Infact make your race super under powered that way you can work them up to being balanced

You want them all to be pykers thats fine insted of giveing them all powers just have it show they have hightened scences boosted by the warp givein them a 5+ preperation roll when attacked for a chance to dodge the attack then use yor saveing throw

I dont want to be mean but this is just plain god awful its a poor attemt to bring a new race into the game and things like this make it hard for people who really try to see new races, will never see them because no one will take themseriously. Just stop now, go read the whole 6th rule book a few codexis and the wili on the warp th iom and the emperor then sit down and really spend some time balanceing the army

Unlike a lot of people I don't have money. I am 14. I do't get allowance, so I can't buy anything. I wish I did have the 6th ed rulebook, but that's just not an option right now. I know more than people would assume I know about the Warhammer 40k universe, but like I said earlier, it's constraining me. Holding me back. I can't make this race with what I have now. I am trying to bend the metaphorical rules a bit so they can fit in at least.
But I see where you are going with the UP thing. I was planning to balance them out with a very high point cost and fit some drawbacks on their special rules. E.g: If they roll a 6,6, in a psychic test, the Lynx using the power dies instantly. Eternal warrior reduces the model to 1 wound instead. Then, all the rest of the squad takes a Perils of the Warp, no saves allowed, which is 1 wound of damage. If you had bad luck with the dice, half your army may just go bye-bye in a single turn. I understand the equality thing.
The fluff? Like I said, it's hard to work with what I have got, but I am trying my best to slip round some things and agree with others. I just need time and ideas. If anyone wants to add anything, put it here. It's hard. The GW people have several people working on a single codex. I'm just me. So I am trying hard to get it all to fit.

This is literally what I have been trying to say this entire topic. I. Am. Just. Me. I don't have the experience of the GW people, I'm too imaginative for my oiwn good but I am trying to stick with the 40k universe but keeping my race the same at the same time.
This is all I have to say. That is my entire shield. Go ahead, some of you may just want to shatter it and be done. I'm hoping there are others though, who will understand what I'm trying to get across and will help me.