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This girl didnt live with her parents, had a car and a part time job. And was a very convincing liar.

Melissia wrote:It's not unreasonable.

Carding the people that you date, I mean.

"Before this goes any further can I see two forms of photo I.D. and get you to sign this affidavit in front of Dave here? Dave is a state notary and will be verifying the I.D.s and notarizing your signature."

I believe CO's consent laws are 17 = fair game, but we have what I believe is called a "Romeo and Juliet law" which gives 15 and 16 year olds a +10 year window.

Meanwhile in Texas a 13 year old can get married with parental consent

Fear Factory rules.

One of my gal friends Ex's keeps buying her plane tickets to fly across the country to be with them, even though she told him that she hates them.

d3m01iti0n wrote:This girl didnt live with her parents, had a car and a part time job. And was a very convincing liar.

Mate, I don't care if she had a beard. You slept with her knowing she was 16. Not cool, Bro Chi Minh.

LOL I dont paticularly care, or I would have kept it to myself. She knew perfectly well what she was doing, lied to achieve her goals, and was independant and fully functional in society.

Apparently, no social harm resulted and everything was factually consensual. I thought that was the moral standard these days?

Manchu wrote:Apparently, no social harm resulted and everything was factually consensual. I thought that was the moral standard these days?

I wish.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Melissia wrote:I wish there were more gay/bi men in this forum so we could have some "crazy guy" stories to balance out the stupid number of "crazy girl" stories.

What ever happened to Cannerus...? >.>

Dude got hitched. The Mightiest of Bachelors fell from our ranks. He shall be missed.

dogma wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:
And I see no problem dating girls with kids, especially with me being 27: most girls my age who are single are either divorced, have kids, or they're single for a reason.

Really? I'm 26 and I know tons of stable, single women. I mean, there are reasons that they're single, but its usually a combination of career ambition, a recent move, or simple disinterest.

There's a big city/rural type divide on this, with some adjustments for your area of the country. Around big cities on the coasts, waiting until you're in your 30s to settle down (like me) is common. The couples in our birthing classes at the hospital where our kids were born were all in their 30s. But it's a very different environment in rural areas and in other sections of the U.S.

My general comment on this thread is that if you keep meeting crazy chicks, it's time to look in the mirror. I didn't find "the one" until I was 33 and yet I didn't have a single truly crazy girlfriend along the way. Some issues here and there...sure. We all have some issues. But nothing like some of the chicks you guys are talking about, and definitely not an unending array of them.

My advice would be to try something different if you keep hitting your head on the same ledge every time. Like maybe ducking next time?

re: Texas.

It's considered a valid defense for a person who is three years older, and they not considered sex offenders unless it was rape of some sort.

But only for heterosexual relationships.

Albatross wrote:

whembly wrote:

Melissia wrote:So wait, not only do you admit to screwing an underaged chick, you also give us her name?

Depends on which state he's in...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America

Jesus, New Hampshire is fething nuts! You can have sex with a 13 year old as long as you're no more than three years older than them!

Still, a 24-year old has no business shagging a 16-year old. Have some self-respect, that man.

What about a 22 yr old? >.>

Just as bad...

If you're over 20 and you're boning a 16 year old something is deeply wrong.

edit: spoilering since its fairly NSFW

Ahah, poor guy.

Or... lucky. Depending on how much he enjoyed it.

Haven't dated anyone yet, but this thread is just reminding me that there are many adventures to come.

Yeah... advice to the younger folks just starting to chase after girls (and I suppose to an extent boys):

1. Make sure you know how old they are, don't assume because they are taking college courses that they are a college student. Ask for ID if necessary. If you suspect they are jailbait, they probably are jailbait.

2. If they tell you they have serious depression issues, they are suicidal or have attempted committing suicide, you will probably want to run away. No you are not going to be her savior and live together happily ever after, despite whatever messiah/savior complex you have (I know, because i have said complex myself).

3, Bisexual/Pansexual girls are great... until they decide that they are really lesbians and leave you for a female... in the Navy. Beware (unless they express a very strong preference in males).

4. If the girl is in her late teens/early 20s and tells you they usually only go for older guys in their late 20s and/or early 30s... they probably have some daddy issues... just walk away.

5. All women are crazy, some more so than others. Even if you find one that isn't crazy... she will eventually turn out to be crazy, its only a matter of time.

No, all women are *complicated*. They aren't all crazy, at least not in the psychologically damaged sense that many of the women mentioned in this thread are described to be.

chaos0xomega wrote:5. All women are crazy

This thread was already borderline misogynistic. Now it's crossed that border.

Go figure.

Let's please refrain from "all women are [insert adjective]" statements -- even stuff like "all women are wonderful" is stupid and wrong. Putting a negative in there is stupid, wrong, and insulting and thus also a violation of our rules. Thanks.

Manchu wrote:even stuff like "all women are wonderful" is stupid and wrong.

Ouch.

The level of insanity is actually relatively even between the two genders. The main difference is cultural-- women are, as a general group, more willing to seek help for mental problems than men, while men tend to view seeking help as an unmanly thing and thus avoid it. This results in men having more severe mental problems than women on average, with much more violence.

But it is still primarily a cultural effect, rather than genetic, where mental problems are roughly even. There's plenty of sane men and women out there. Or at least sane enough to have a stable relationship with-- assuming that you are likewise sane.

Melissia wrote:The level of insanity is actually relatively even between the two genders. The main difference is cultural-- women are, as a general group, more willing to seek help for mental problems than men, while men tend to view seeking help as an unmanly thing and thus avoid it. This results in men having more severe mental problems than women on average, with much more violence.

But it is still primarily a cultural effect, rather than genetic, where mental problems are roughly even. There's plenty of sane men and women out there. Or at least sane enough to have a stable relationship with-- assuming that you are likewise sane.

Yeah, I have no doubt that men are just as crazy as women I mean we've all done some stupid things in our lives.

KalashnikovMarine wrote:16 is legal in some states, not excusing the action but just saying.

Also is he really liable if she lied to him?

Yes, yes he is, though it would almost certainly mitigate any sentencing if he could prove it. Thankfully it sounds like she was emancipated, so its unlikely anyone was going to report him.

Melissia wrote:It's not unreasonable.

Carding the people that you date, I mean.

At a certain point its unreasonable. I'm 26, and I have no interest in anyone that looks remotely close to being 18, and despite what people say its generally fairly easy to appraise a person's age when that broad type of standard applies. And, when it doesn't, you're probably not going to get in any trouble. For example a 20 year old sleeping with a 17 year old.

That said, a friend of mine unknowingly slept with a 16 year old when he was 21. Though, in his defense, they were both in college at the time and he was drunk. Having met her before, she could also pass for 18 very easily.

gorgon wrote:No, all women are *complicated*. They aren't all crazy, at least not in the psychologically damaged sense that many of the women mentioned in this thread are described to be.

Agreed. Most women I've known have not been crazy. Driven me crazy, yes, but thats a different story.


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Melissia wrote:The level of insanity is actually relatively even between the two genders. The main difference is cultural-- women are, as a general group, more willing to seek help for mental problems than men, while men tend to view seeking help as an unmanly thing and thus avoid it. This results in men having more severe mental problems than women on average, with much more violence.

But it is still primarily a cultural effect, rather than genetic, where mental problems are roughly even. There's plenty of sane men and women out there. Or at least sane enough to have a stable relationship with-- assuming that you are likewise sane.

What was it the comedian said? Crazy women collect dozens of cats in their apartment. Crazy men turn people's skins into suits.

Frazzled wrote: What was it the comedian said? Crazy women collect dozens of cats in their apartment. Crazy men turn people's skins into suits.

That's it in a nutshell.

Hmm, I have a sad yet vibrant history of dating/marrying women who some might call " out of their minds" or " Bat gak crazy"....seems "damaged" females just flock to me, I can't begin to imagine why.
My first wife, bless her heart, was the sort who, if I was out at band practice a bit longer than she thought I should be, would convince herself I was cheating and toss my belongings into the yard...always a hoot to come home and find neighbors sorting through your things.
My second wife was a bit less concerned as to weather or not I was cheating on her...mostly due to the fact that she was busy cheating on me every chance she got.
Before and between these two winners, I dated a string of nutty girls ranging from borderline alcholics to strippers with daddy issues that were absolutely mind numbing...
I've fortunantly finally ( I think) found a woman who, while still crazy...seems to mesh with my own issues...most of the time.

I somehow managed to find a bunny boiler.

Not good.

Emotionally and towards the end physically abusive ex that drove me to a severe depression. All ended when she hit me, told me she would kill herself and told me I couldn't go visit my brain dead cousin in hospital before life support was turned off. Also had a go at me for abandoning her at my sisters birthday party when I had gone to the toilet. Oh, and she wanted to be married after 2 weeks of dating.

When it came to the break up, halls security almost had to call the police to remove her and her parents from the flat (we had been living together and they had driven 3 hours to come collect her after I finished with her.) It was ugly, smashed belongings, food thrown across the flat. Good riddance, feel sorry for the guy she is with now.

I think that is my only crazy ex, little wonder been single for the 30 months since.

Oh, wow. There are some crazy stories here. Some of these nutjobs should have a warning tatooed on their foreheads, lol.

Someone should start a "most awesome person you've dated" thread to compensate for this one!

LOL this thread should really have the words TRIGGER WARNING at the top of it.

But I have dated many crazy girls in my life. Number one I met in a mental hospital (red flag) and she ended up abusing me physically and emotionally for four years in an on and off relationship with me, cheated on me often with her best friend (a girl), raped me a couple times, but somehow twisted me into her obedient little puppy, because there were always a few good minutes every day with her, right? Then, after we finally decided to part ways for good after she decided she needed help for her Borderline personality Disorder and psychosis, she dies of Takotsubo cardiomyopathy that aggravated an already bad congenital heart defect 3 months later and all this before I was 17.


fethed up part?

Kinda miss her sometimes.
(oh and the next girl I dated, after she broke up with me' is convinced she never existed and that I am just making the whole thing up even though my body is covered in scars and gak. yep)