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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 08:28:51
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Heroic Senior Officer
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You're going to hate me for this captain... but that list only has 1 troops choice
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'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
"Sector Imperialis: 25mm and 40mm Round Bases (40+20) 26€ (Including 32 skulls for basing) " GW design philosophy in a nutshell |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 09:57:49
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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How about using Gazkhull and Yarrick in one list? Just for fun. Those two would love it to team up to beat the crap out of another opponent.
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Overall Record W-L-D = 22-24-15
Bataviran 197th/222nd Catachan "Iron Wolves", arrogant, dedicated and ruthless!
Captain Detlev Vordon, regimental commander.
Colonel Vladimir Russki, regimental commander 222nd Catachan. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 11:22:45
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Battleship Captain
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MrMoustaffa wrote:You're going to hate me for this captain... but that list only has 1 troops choice 
Oh yeah! Forgot to type in the Penal Legion. Fixed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 12:27:21
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Now there's a sentence you dont hear everyday
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/12/16 12:31:53
'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
"Sector Imperialis: 25mm and 40mm Round Bases (40+20) 26€ (Including 32 skulls for basing) " GW design philosophy in a nutshell |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 16:14:49
Subject: Re:Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Heroic Senior Officer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 16:36:44
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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1st Lieutenant
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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Ok. So, your regiment has been unlucky to be issued all the stuff that the Departmento Munitorum has built or requested. No regiment wanted it, so you got the short straw and have to take it.
-Elite slots can only be full units of Ratlings or Ogryns
-Troops may be Penal Legions or Vet Squads (You may only take 2 Vet Squads and they can't have Chimeras. Those are too useful. Oh, and the only SW they can have is a Grenade Launcher)
-Your HQ MAY be a CCS, but it can't take any upgrades EXCEPT 1 Special Weapon. That Special Weapon must be a Grenade Launcher.
-FA can only be Rough Riders or Scout Sentinels. Same rules apply, only 1 SW may be taken per unit (So if 3 SS, only 1 can have something besides a Multi-Laser)
-HS can only be Deathstrikes. You may have 1 LR, but it must be a Vanquisher. Pask is allowed (give you some slack).
-However, units that can have a Heavy Weapon (besides Platoons as they aren't allowed) can take one but it must be a Mortar or HB
Have fun.
OR Multi-Laser spam (ALA C.S. Goto)
-Must try to fit as many Multi-Lasers in your list as possible. All units are permitted, but you can't take any special or heavy weapons until you run out of spots to put Multi-Lasers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 18:50:36
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well, I wasn't assuming that you'd need to do ALL of those things in the same list.
More like a series of challenges.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 18:53:46
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Battleship Captain
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Ailaros wrote:Well, I wasn't assuming that you'd need to do ALL of those things in the same list.
More like a series of challenges.
Deh ah look lak a wee lass, boy?
 But really; I have enough flyers, it could be funny to field the worst list in history and still win.
Or lose horribly.
Nah. I plan on winning.
Worst case scenario, I get my butt kicked and laughed out of my lovely store. But I'll be able to say I've used Ratlings, Naked Valks, Yarrick, and Penal Legions, so I consider those perspectives improvements in my skill as a player.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
I honestly looked at the post for a good couple minutes before hitting submit, just glancing back at my codex thinking "God...am I about to say this?"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 19:26:43
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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1st Lieutenant
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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Oooo idea.
Make at least half of your army SITNW Guard Conscripts. For Mother Russia!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 19:32:21
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Dispassionate Imperial Judge
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ALL my IG lists are heavily themed - it's surprising what you can come up with that actually works.
Try a Penal Legion. All your troops are Legionnaires - only old model tanks as support (no high tech gizmos). Maybe Penal Ogryns.
Or use the Armoured Company list - it'll certainly be different.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 20:07:43
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Heroic Senior Officer
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All I know is that if i see a thread titled "Why does everybody say ig is good?" and its about a guy who curbstomped a bunch of these wacky lists, my heart may shut down from how hard I'll be laughing.
Also, for the Elysians list, can you deepstrike combined squads for platoons? Because I'm tempted to ask what 50 deepstriking guardsmen looks like and what gear they would take. Everything deepstrikes, no vets. It would quite literally be raining men
While we're talking Forgeworld, is there anything funny you can do with DKoK and the Armored Battlegroup? I'm not very familiar with them.
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'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
"Sector Imperialis: 25mm and 40mm Round Bases (40+20) 26€ (Including 32 skulls for basing) " GW design philosophy in a nutshell |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 20:26:05
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Heroic Senior Officer
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DKoK?
Fling over 200 templates every turn, if you have the fund for it.
That or massive hades breaching drill suprise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 21:09:41
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Battleship Captain
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MrMoustaffa wrote:
Also, for the Elysians list, can you deepstrike combined squads for platoons? Because I'm tempted to ask what 50 deepstriking guardsmen looks like and what gear they would take. Everything deepstrikes, no vets. It would quite literally be raining men
Yessir you can. It's...a thing of beauty.
Except they can't take heavy weapons.
Too cool for that stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 21:26:35
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Here's an idea for you to toy around with.
In your list, you have 2 platoons of special weapons (sergeants have power axes) blob, a company command squad with Nork (like Ailaros's first page idea) , and 3 Leman Russes. That's the primary detachment.
The Allied detachment is an Ork Warboss (with a power klaw and cybork body), a 10-man unit of Nobs for the elites choice (with power klaws and painboy and cybork), and an identical nob unit for troops. On top of that, add a 30 man rokkit blob of 'Ard Boyz (add a nob with PK), and either a deff dread or killa kans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 21:50:57
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Manchester, UK
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MrMoustaffa wrote:While we're talking Forgeworld, is there anything funny you can do with DKoK and the Armored Battlegroup? I'm not very familiar with them.
You could do an open topped force with ABG. Salamanders, vets in centaurs, tauros/sentinels and artillery. You could take techpriests in trojans for elites, although they are not open-topped and just av10. Or 5 leman russ conquerors with augur shells, pretty much a long range scarab force. Backed up by more conquerors. Fast but pretty rubbish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 22:07:46
Subject: Re:Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Take only hellhounds as your vehicles
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WAAAGH!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 22:49:46
Subject: Re:Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Douglas Bader
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Peregrine wrote:Honestly, I'd like to see a little more creativity here. Simply naming a random unit and saying "use it" isn't very helpful, you need to think of something cool and say WHY it would be fun. For example: ratlings. WHY ratlings? At least come up with some kind of funny space hobbit theme, don't just say "ratlings and deathstrikes".
Quoted because it needs saying again. Stop spamming comments of the form "X random unit" with no explanation for WHY it is a fun constraint.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 22:51:22
Subject: Re:Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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1st Lieutenant
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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Peregrine wrote: Peregrine wrote:Honestly, I'd like to see a little more creativity here. Simply naming a random unit and saying "use it" isn't very helpful, you need to think of something cool and say WHY it would be fun. For example: ratlings. WHY ratlings? At least come up with some kind of funny space hobbit theme, don't just say "ratlings and deathstrikes".
Quoted because it needs saying again. Stop spamming comments of the form "X random unit" with no explanation for WHY it is a fun constraint.
Hey, I tried to give a theme to it hahahahahaha.
Im gonna have to try some of these sometimes...me and my friends like screwing with some odd-ball lists once in a while
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 22:55:56
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Heroic Senior Officer
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No 5+ armor save is hilarious, right now due to model constraint, the only 5+ unit I have is the CCS.
Seeing all that AP 5 and being able to roll agaisn't it is great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 23:14:09
Subject: Re:Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Use this list
Company command squad/ carapace armour, 3 flamers, heavy flamer – 105
Company command squad/ carapace armour, 3 flamers, heavy flamer – 105
Storm trooper squad/ 2 melta guns – 105
Storm trooper squad/ 2 melta guns – 105
Storm trooper squad/ melta gun, flamer – 100
Infantry platoon (330)
Platoon command squad/ 3 flamers, heavy flamer – 65
Infantry squad/ flamer - 55
Infantry squad/ flamer - 55
Infantry squad/ flamer – 55
Special weapon squad/ 3 flamers – 50
Special weapon squad/ 3 flamers – 50
Veteran squad/ carapace armour, 2 flamers, heavy flamer – 130
Veteran squad/ carapace armour, 2 flamers, heavy flamer – 130
Hellhound/ heavy flamer – 130
Hellhound/ heavy flamer – 130
Hellhound/ heavy flamer – 130
20 flamers, 8 heavy flamers, 3 inferno cannons and 5 melta guns (only for anti-tank).
105 men, 30 have 4+ saves and 3 tanks.
Cry when you verse flying bakery.
Laugh when verse green tide! Automatically Appended Next Post: Oooh and bonus points if its themed on Catachans.
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Grey Knights 2500
Orks 1500
High Elves 2000 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 00:32:34
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Battleship Captain
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Well, I was hoping for a challenge.
Guess dakka isn't up to dishing the Captain a list that will make me cringe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 00:38:11
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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The only upgrades you can take for your infantry are grenades and or melta bombs.
OR
Get a template army. (this can include blast and large blast)
I think this whole 'putting in constraints thing sounds great', whatever constraints you choose, please let us know on some battle reports!!! Oh, by the way, how did that all infantry, joke list fare?
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Now ve vill test za atomic device, put your safety goggles on. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 00:42:52
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Tunneling Trygon
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loner wrote:How about using Gazkhull and Yarrick in one list? Just for fun. Those two would love it to team up to beat the crap out of another opponent.
I played an ork/guard vs necron/ba gave back in 5th ed. I put Ghaz and Yarrick in the same squad, and then into a Valk, amidst the battle they deepstrike in, valk blows up but the duo proceeded to kick the gak out of the necrons in cc.
My favorite constraint to build a guard list to: 3 Deathstrikes required. There is no predicting how the game will go.
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Hive Fleet Aquarius 2-1-0
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/527774.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 00:44:51
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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1st Lieutenant
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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Oh, I have a challenge that will make ANY IG player cringe and repulse in fear and horror!
Your army can only be composed of Catachans. Only Catachans. Gun crews? Convert some. Tanks? Catachan themed. And they must be the horrid plastic ones too, painted and all
Part 2: Get through a game without either player breaking down laughing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 00:49:36
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Tunneling Trygon
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washout77 wrote:Oh, I have a challenge that will make ANY IG player cringe and repulse in fear and horror!
Your army can only be composed of Catachans. Only Catachans. Gun crews? Convert some. Tanks? Catachan themed. And they must be the horrid plastic ones too, painted and all
Part 2: Get through a game without either player breaking down laughing
... I play Catachans
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Hive Fleet Aquarius 2-1-0
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/527774.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 03:08:26
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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TheCaptain wrote:it could be funny to field the worst list in history and still win.
Hmm... worst list?
CCS, nork, camo cloaks, vox-caster
5x priests
techpriest, 5x servitors
techpriest, 5x servitors
ogryn (3)
ogryn (3)
penal legion
penal legion
3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting
3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting
3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting
1500 points.
Two awful scoring units, no anti-tank whatsoever outside of close combat (and even then...), and no serious anti-infantry outside of 9 sentinels that will instantly be destroyed outside of cover, and are simultaneously stuck with heavy flamers.
May the emperor have mercy on your soul.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 04:19:42
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Leaping Dog Warrior
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Ailaros wrote:
CCS, nork, camo cloaks, vox-caster
5x priests
techpriest, 5x servitors
techpriest, 5x servitors
ogryn (3)
ogryn (3)
penal legion
penal legion
3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting
3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting
3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting
1500 points.
Two awful scoring units, no anti-tank whatsoever outside of close combat (and even then...), and no serious anti-infantry outside of 9 sentinels that will instantly be destroyed outside of cover, and are simultaneously stuck with heavy flamers.
May the emperor have mercy on your soul.
. . . It's a work of art! A list so horrible it will be like watching a train wreck. Catastrophic, but you won't be able to tear your eyes away.
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MRRF 300pts
Adeptus Custodes: 2250pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 04:44:46
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Heroic Senior Officer
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TheCaptain wrote: Well, I was hoping for a challenge.
Guess dakka isn't up to dishing the Captain a list that will make me cringe.
Don't worry captain, I'm working on one (lightning flashes ominously)
Haven't gotten to get any games yet. Liscense expired of all things so I've been stuck at home all weekend. Might play against myself just to make sure I've got the format down and so I can see which ones have the most potential.
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'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
"Sector Imperialis: 25mm and 40mm Round Bases (40+20) 26€ (Including 32 skulls for basing) " GW design philosophy in a nutshell |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 04:53:41
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Wing Commander
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I've already scheduled an Apoc game for this weekend, otherwise I'd try something with the ABG.
I'm thinking one of every Russ in existence, no scoring units, no artillery, no infantry, no deepstrikers, nothing but Russ.
Not a good list, but amusing, but neither is terribly weak.
However, if I want to try a painful approach, I can fight my group's TFG and his 16 screamer, 18 flamer list.
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Therefore, I conclude, Valve should announce Half Life 2: Episode 3.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 05:05:21
Subject: Looking for some fun things to try with IG. Give me constraints to play with.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Apoc is easy.
The list is X=N/70. Where N is the number of points you are allowed to bring, and X is your list comprising entirely of units of penal legionnaires.
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