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Ok seems dark sphere will be selling these for a super drop price of 68 pounds and if you get web discount it comes to 63.75. Not bad

 Krellnus wrote:

themadlbb wrote:
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but right now RAW this thing can ally with any army, even Tyranids?

Yes, we are told that an army may ally three knights, we are given no other restrictions.

This is why GW offers bundles of 3 (ally detachment) or 5 (full army) for no discount.

2 LRBTs behind an ADL are a bigger threat than a single Knight Paladin, arent they?

6 HPs, AV14/13/10, 4+ cover, 2 battlecannons, also occupy only 1 HS slot if taken as a squadron (no idea what slot the Knights occupy) and while they lack mobility, they are about 25 points cheaper with the ADL and that ADL can still provide cover for guardsmen

 Sir Arun wrote:
2 LRBTs behind an ADL are a bigger threat than a single Knight Paladin, arent they?

6 HPs, AV14/13/10, 4+ cover, 2 battlecannons, also occupy only 1 HS slot if taken as a squadron (no idea what slot the Knights occupy) and while they lack mobility, they are about 25 points cheaper with the ADL and that ADL can still provide cover for guardsmen

Knights are mainly useful for their close combat ability, the guns are just a bit of a bonus really. Battle cannons are not great anyway.

I just read the stomp rules, which seem really powerful. They say that you apply the wounds to models, which seems to make them a super sniper weapon in close assault.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Krellnus wrote:

themadlbb wrote:
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but right now RAW this thing can ally with any army, even Tyranids?

Yes, we are told that an army may ally three knights, we are given no other restrictions.

This is why GW offers bundles of 3 (ally detachment) or 5 (full army) for no discount.

Do they have any kit that offers a discount?

 Sir Arun wrote:
2 LRBTs behind an ADL are a bigger threat than a single Knight Paladin, arent they?

6 HPs, AV14/13/10, 4+ cover, 2 battlecannons, also occupy only 1 HS slot if taken as a squadron (no idea what slot the Knights occupy) and while they lack mobility, they are about 25 points cheaper with the ADL and that ADL can still provide cover for guardsmen

Not to me. For one thing 2 markerlights zap away cover which I can't do to the knights. For another longstrike in a railgun hammerhead has a reasonable chance to remove one from the game in one shot or at least stop it from firing for a turn since you can't snap fire a battle cannon (again can't be done to the knight since its a superheavy). Third reason I can actually get melta close enough to the land raiders to make it effective, where as the knight can move 12" and charge me before I even get into melta range.

I might just be overestimating the shiny new model, but I really really am not looking forward to seeing these guys on the table.

I like them a lot. Disappointed that they arent a bit larger but theyll look great standing next to my warhound. Planning on buying a second warhound and a reaver to round out my titan legion...will probably buy a warlord from that third party site that sells the resin cast ones.

I think they are pretty decent looking models, but seeing yet more and more giant monsters and beasts and vehicles in 40k bores me. I want troops, hordes and hordes of troops, locked in desperate bloody combat across a dying world. The biggest toughest things I want to see are land raiders really.

Epic was a great place to include more, they should just bring that back.

I'm just looking forward to corrupting one or two to add onto my growing khornate warband

I am annoyed by how much the Imperium is getting lately. I'd like to see something chaos or xenos based at least.

..Okay i'm mainly just annoyed that chaos isn't getting any rules for them right now.

themadlbb wrote:

 Sarigar wrote:
We don't have the complete rules, so it's not something I can even debate RAW, RAI or anything else.

Rules are in White Dwarf, I'm referencing the digital edition.

Yes, but they are horribly incomplete.

If I take this as my primary army, which one is my Warlord, since it does not have a Ld characteristic? What slot does it take in relation to missions? Is it a LoW? Can these ever hold an objecitive considering most of the 40K mission revolve around objectives.

For allied detachments, you are required to take 1 HQ and 1 Troop; how does this interact? Does it simply ignore those rules entirely? On what basis; Escalation or Apoc or neither?

Does this mean I can take a Primary Detachment, up to 3 Knights as my allied detachment, a LoW and the Inquisition Digital Codex in a single army? It can be fluffy like IG/Knights/Baneblade/Inquisitor or it can be less than fluffy Eldar/Knight/Revenant/Inquisitor?

This is just some stuff off the top of my head after reading the WD article.

They are scoring according to Jes Bickham over at GW Digital Edition's fb.

Even tho I'm not thrilled with Super Heavies becoming part of the regular game I'm happy to see an army that changes the way the game is play.


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 dementedwombat wrote:
I'll go with "its alright". I think the model is interesting but as Tau I don't have a good answer to them in my regular lists so I really don't ever want to see one across the field from me (my railgun hammerhead is only 1 shot going up against a 4++, melta can't get in 2d6 range without getting charged unless I deep strike it in, and the sky ray needs a 5 to glance).

Field another rail gun and leave the riptide at home Tau can win without them.

If you ask me, introducing superheavies is really going to help armylists because right now the meta is very anti-flyer oriented, i.e. lots of S6/S7 weapons with or without skyfire.

These weapons will become utterly useless when superheavies are brought, so when listbuilding you'll have to decide whether to take anti-flyer flakk guns or anti-superheavy one-shot-wonders

The model looks cool but looking over the rules in WD I am not impressed.

There is absolutely no reason to fear this model. It's not a MC so you have a chance of killing it on any penetrating shot. A 4+ invulnerable save is its only saving grace.

Both gun variants use blast templates - so for me at least I will never hit anything with it. For the points cost a wraith knight is better IMO.

We wrote:
The model looks cool but looking over the rules in WD I am not impressed.

There is absolutely no reason to fear this model. It's not a MC so you have a chance of killing it on any penetrating shot. A 4+ invulnerable save is its only saving grace.

Both gun variants use blast templates - so for me at least I will never hit anything with it. For the points cost a wraith knight is better IMO.

It's a super heavy, so no one-shot kills. Pen + Explodes only result in an additional D3 hull points being removed. It moves 12" in the movement phase so in 2-3 turns these guys are assaulting your stuff in most missions. With 3-6 on the table, have fun with that.

I didn't know that about Super heavies. At the points and the monetary cost I will never be fielding 3-6 of them, one at most.I primarily play against Eldar so I imagine my friends Avatar would rip 'em to pieces still. But maybe if I take one I would last until turn 3 before he tables me.

We wrote:
I didn't know that about Super heavies. At the points and the monetary cost I will never be fielding 3-6 of them, one at most.I primarily play against Eldar so I imagine my friends Avatar would rip 'em to pieces still. But maybe if I take one I would last until turn 3 before he tables me.

I think Strength D is going to have a nasty effect on an Avatar...

 Sir Arun wrote:

We wrote:
I didn't know that about Super heavies. At the points and the monetary cost I will never be fielding 3-6 of them, one at most.I primarily play against Eldar so I imagine my friends Avatar would rip 'em to pieces still. But maybe if I take one I would last until turn 3 before he tables me.

I think Strength D is going to have a nasty effect on an Avatar...

If the Avatar smashes it will be at strength 10, might give it a run for it's money with some luck behind it.

Don't knights move much faster than an Avatar of Khaine? That would give them a huge advantage in the fight.

I dig it. Now I wonder if its going to be a Empire, Chaos thing, or the start of a whole new army...

I may end up not playing ork now...