Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

I posted this in the other thread....



Scaled according to the bases of the Marine and Guardian.

Bases are usually the best way to find the scale of the model. At least that's what I was led to believe.

I was hoping it'd be WK size at least. Oh well.

It fits with the standard Eldar/Imperium dynamic. The Eldar are usually taller, whereas the Imperials have a lot more mass.

 Trickstick wrote:
It fits with the standard Eldar/Imperium dynamic. The Eldar are usually taller, whereas the Imperials have a lot more mass.

My only problem with that is that the Imperial Knight is supposed to be a 370pt superheavy walker with 6 hull points and 13/12/12 armour. It just doesn't look big enough to live up to it's stats.

It also doesnt justify the additional price cost over the Wraithknight

oh wait, it does as you get - as usual - flooded with a bucketload of extra gak to build different variants, which is not the case with the wraithknight.

one one other varient, Arun, from what i've seen.

Also, seeing it in person, the wraithknight is a head taller than the knight.

but hey, it's armor thickness that matters.


(please don't purge me.)

Why is the kit so expensive, though? It costs more than a WK for a smaller model.

They're okay. Will probably buy one eventually.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Why is the kit so expensive, though? It costs more than a WK for a smaller model.

It's shorter, you probably get more plastic though.

You should check out the Wayland online newsletter for the release of the Knight. It's pretty awesome! ; p

 Trickstick wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Why is the kit so expensive, though? It costs more than a WK for a smaller model.

It's shorter, you probably get more plastic though.

That and it costs 50% more points. GW likes to (loosely) link price to points as well at times.

10 years more or less in the hobby and this is the first model I liked so much I'm doing the pre-order. My only concern is that I might dislocate my shoulder tomorrow reaching into my pocket too fast getting the money out to pay for it!

Ahem, to sum up me feelings in a clear, concise manner: I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!111+1=2!!!!!

 azreal13 wrote:

 dementedwombat wrote:
Also as a Warmachine player I find myself reminded of a certain something...

Spoiler:

/

Is it that GW ninjad PP by the lion's share of a decade?

Since Mike McVay was one of the original Warmachine scupters, the resemblance does not surprise me.

It's ok at best. I agree with others in that it looks awkward and way too top heavy. I'll stick with my leviathan as it looks more dynamic than the knight in my opinion.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
They're good.
Rules-wise, I think we were all hoping for them to be a Monstrous Creature to be an Imperial match for Wraithknights and Riptides. Instead, we got a superheavy with a Strength D close combat weapon that means many people automatically will not want to play against it.

In fact, this is the problem. We won't allow it (and all other superheavies and D weapons) in our RTTs.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
They're good.
Rules-wise, I think we were all hoping for them to be a Monstrous Creature to be an Imperial match for Wraithknights and Riptides. Instead, we got a superheavy with a Strength D close combat weapon that means many people automatically will not want to play against it.

In fact, this is the problem. We won't allow it (and all other superheavies and D weapons) in our RTTs.

I do wonder if we'll get 7th ed rules which will include S:d and superheavies in the main rulebook. Or maybe if the rumours of a knight codex are true, the rules will be included in there. It seems to me GW are trying to push people in to superheavies, and they can go a long way to doing that by making them part of the core rules and having a codex that revolves around them (since then you'll have to house rule that you can't use a certain codex and you can't use core rules).

Also, really, the Strength D weapon isn't mind blowing. If it didn't have it, it'd be pretty easy to bring down in close combat. With only 3 attacks it's not going to be winning any wars with it.

I'll buy one, or two when my wallet allows.

Also whichever weapon doesn't end up getting used is getting looted

I was pleasantly surprised with this model. i really like it.
My only complaint is for the chainsword though..
Am i the only one that finds the blade a bit shorter than it should be?

spartiatis wrote:
I was pleasantly surprised with this model. i really like it.
My only complaint is for the chainsword though..
Am i the only one that finds the blade a bit shorter than it should be?

I think the blade length is ok, but it would look better if it were on a longer arm that has an actual elbow joint.

The GWS website says they're 8" tall which makes no sense considering the Wraith Knight is about 8.5" tall (to the tip of its back spine things).

"At 8 inches tall the Imperial Knight is a towering war engine."

from the GW pre-order description.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

spartiatis wrote:
I was pleasantly surprised with this model. i really like it.
My only complaint is for the chainsword though..
Am i the only one that finds the blade a bit shorter than it should be?

I think the blade length is ok, but it would look better if it were on a longer arm that has an actual elbow joint.

You're looking at it wrong.

The chainsword is the forearm, not the hand. This is a much better design for something this large - joints are structural weak points, and it's not like knight-scale combat involves a lot of parry/riposte.

This model is fantastic. When I compare it to the other large kits of late, this was, by far IMO, looks much better.

Additionally, I've found the GW kits over the past year or two to have fantastic fit/finish. The Wraithknight/Riptide/Helldrake models all fit together beautifully; not sure when GW went to CAD, but the exactness of their model fit is great. I just recently assembled old Tau suits and they fit horribly compared to the Riptide.

Is it worth the money? For me, yes. But, this is also my main hobby which is what I use disposable income towards. If I were back in college and living off a very limited income, my outlook on the price would likely be different.

Unfortunately, GW has not listed the entire rules in the White Dwarf, so we are left wondering how to play with these. A lot of questions right now. If I were a betting man, I think we will get a Codex and it will tell us to look at Escalation for the specific rules to run a superheavy. Then, I will sit back and have fun watching folks debate if the codex is legal, how to ban it etc... Getting my popcorn ready.

I can't wait to play KnightFall. Assault Space Marines (w/ meltabombs to represent rodeo) as Pilots, Scouts as Grunts and Necron Warriors as Specters. KnightFall in 5 turns - Scout and Warrior kills decrease this by 1 per kill, Assault Space Marine kills worth 2 turns. "Kill" a Necron Warrior in cc as an Assault Space Marine to reprogram it.

Oh yeah baby, prepare for KnightFall !

They look good I have no idea of price mind you. I want one but surely the price will knock me out. Will check first at dark sphere and see what it's going for there. Are these comparable switch the blood angels if anyone knows????

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but right now RAW this thing can ally with any army, even Tyranids?

We don't have the complete rules, so it's not something I can even debate RAW, RAI or anything else.

 Sarigar wrote:
We don't have the complete rules, so it's not something I can even debate RAW, RAI or anything else.

Rules are in White Dwarf, I'm referencing the digital edition.

themadlbb wrote:
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but right now RAW this thing can ally with any army, even Tyranids?

Yes, we are told that an army may ally three knights, we are given no other restrictions.