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 Ahtman wrote:

 easysauce wrote:


says the guy who claimed I was jealous that only black people get to say the n word....

That isn't even remotely what I said. You have to be either fairly dense or purposefully obtuse to get that from what was stated.

mmmm hmmmmm

 Ahtman wrote:
Do you really want to say the word so badly?

So, call me dense and obtuse, then forget you actually asked about my wanting to say the word so badly...


Yeah that sounds about right, something about letting an ignorant man talk and all that.

 easysauce wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 easysauce wrote:


says the guy who claimed I was jealous that only black people get to say the n word....

That isn't even remotely what I said. You have to be either fairly dense or purposefully obtuse to get that from what was stated.

mmmm hmmmmm

 Ahtman wrote:
Do you really want to say the word so badly?

So, call me dense and obtuse

Ok, you're dense and obtuse. To go from what is actually stated to twist it into somehow meaning you are jealous of black people for saying it is quite a leap. The kind of leap that would require someone to be, well...you know.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Or you can enlist, which is what my mother-in-law did when she was broke, under-educated, and facing several issues that people constantly complain is keeping them down.

There are Dakkaroos who have qualified for government assistance while serving who have posted such. As I understand it, they are terrible people. To wit:

cincydooley wrote:2. Half of those "survival" programs can be alleviated with a library card (free) or Internet access and a half ounce of motivation and personal accountability.

cincydooley wrote:However, I'd rather the poor stop having children that "require government programs for survival".

But then again, one of my only extreme viewpoints is that if you're on welfare or other "survival" programs you lose the right to reproduce. Not a popular opinion, I know, but I'll deal with it :-)

It's good to know that the members of the military on this forum who qualified for WIC and/or SNAP (and there are several who have posted such) have no motivation, personal accountability, or right to have children.

Those lazy, camouflaged freeloaders, right?

cincydooley wrote:2. Half of those "survival" programs can be alleviated with a library card (free) or Internet access and a half ounce of motivation and personal accountability.

Umm,,,,,you do realize in the innercity there arent a whole lot of libraries? And Internet in there tends to be poor.

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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Seems to me, there is yet another double/triple standard here. See, the representative, going ON AIR, on a radio/web program of, rather dubious nature (depending on your views) and saying racist things is going to get a free pass on this, and yet a racist D-bag who happens to be a million/billionaire who owns a professional sports team, made some comments in PRIVATE and is getting fried for them.

Guess that it shows, at least in my eyes, that people who work in elected office in Washington (meaning Senate/Congress) really are a different "class" of citizen.

You can be as racist as you want, as long as you're on the progressive side. I don't know why we keep being shocked at this, the lesson should've been learned countless times.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

cincydooley wrote:2. Half of those "survival" programs can be alleviated with a library card (free) or Internet access and a half ounce of motivation and personal accountability.

Umm,,,,,you do realize in the innercity there arent a whole lot of libraries? And Internet in there tends to be poor.

what??? maybe its different in america, but we have more libraries in our downtown cores then in rural areas. If not in the most dense population areas, then where? suburbs have quite a few smaller ones as well, but all the big libraries tend to be downtown in my experience.

the internet speeds are also more then enough for everything practical.

Heck, we just got a couple new 3D printers at the most inner city library we have.

Why is unemployment for military spouses so high?

 cincydooley wrote:
Why is unemployment for military spouses so high?

Because, until fairly recently, with all the deployments military folks were doing, combined with an average "dwell time" at any given duty station being 1-3 years, it makes it hard for many spouses to justify going to work at anything other than a minimum wage job; And quite frankly there's a ton of military spouses who are too well educated and are massively over-qualified for that sort of thing. Then there are some who make the active choice to be a stay at home spouse, and raise the kids.... and the last category, which is every military person's favorite: the Dependapotamus.

I think that, as the conflicts in the 'Stan wind down, and military people staying at their duty locations for more than 3 years, we'll see more spouses heading out to get the work they are actually qualified for.

Base Pay
yrs in <2 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 6 > 8
E-4 1999.50 2101.80 2215.80 2328.00 2427.30 2427.30

E-3 1805.40 1918.80 2034.90

E-2 1716.90 1716.90

E-1 1531.50

Okay I see the base rate little over 18K a year for a PVE/E1 that CBS reported. They did not add in BAH

http://images.military.com/media/benefits/pdf/2014-with-dependents-bah-rates.pdf

Figures given in base pay are before taxes. BAH is tax exempt

Yet they still qualify for Food Stamps, WIC, and a few other programs as well.

As for the unemployment of spouses. Past 10-12 years they really didn't have to work.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

Because, until fairly recently, with all the deployments military folks were doing, combined with an average "dwell time" at any given duty station being 1-3 years, it makes it hard for many spouses to justify going to work at anything other than a minimum wage job; And quite frankly there's a ton of military spouses who are too well educated and are massively over-qualified for that sort of thing. Then there are some who make the active choice to be a stay at home spouse, and raise the kids.... and the last category, which is every military person's favorite: the Dependapotamus.

I think that, as the conflicts in the 'Stan wind down, and military people staying at their duty locations for more than 3 years, we'll see more spouses heading out to get the work they are actually qualified for.

Is there an agreement which allows American military spouses to work when abroad?

That;s up to the spouse if they want to work. Though they get perks for it if they apply for a Federal job

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

cincydooley wrote:2. Half of those "survival" programs can be alleviated with a library card (free) or Internet access and a half ounce of motivation and personal accountability.

Umm,,,,,you do realize in the innercity there arent a whole lot of libraries? And Internet in there tends to be poor.

Are there still libraries? Its like Roman ruins in Brooklyn. You see one and go...what?

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
Why is unemployment for military spouses so high?

Because, until fairly recently, with all the deployments military folks were doing, combined with an average "dwell time" at any given duty station being 1-3 years, it makes it hard for many spouses to justify going to work at anything other than a minimum wage job; And quite frankly there's a ton of military spouses who are too well educated and are massively over-qualified for that sort of thing. Then there are some who make the active choice to be a stay at home spouse, and raise the kids.... and the last category, which is every military person's favorite: the Dependapotamus.

I think that, as the conflicts in the 'Stan wind down, and military people staying at their duty locations for more than 3 years, we'll see more spouses heading out to get the work they are actually qualified for.

That makes a lot of sense. Do the bases not have "civilian" jobs that could be filled by qualified spouses? Seems like that could work decently? I just realized that many of the bases also aren't exactly close to big civic centers that would have jobs to be filled.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Then there are some who make the active choice to be a stay at home spouse

Yo.


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 cincydooley wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
Why is unemployment for military spouses so high?

Because, until fairly recently, with all the deployments military folks were doing, combined with an average "dwell time" at any given duty station being 1-3 years, it makes it hard for many spouses to justify going to work at anything other than a minimum wage job; And quite frankly there's a ton of military spouses who are too well educated and are massively over-qualified for that sort of thing. Then there are some who make the active choice to be a stay at home spouse, and raise the kids.... and the last category, which is every military person's favorite: the Dependapotamus.

I think that, as the conflicts in the 'Stan wind down, and military people staying at their duty locations for more than 3 years, we'll see more spouses heading out to get the work they are actually qualified for.

That makes a lot of sense. Do the bases not have "civilian" jobs that could be filled by qualified spouses? Seems like that could work decently? I just realized that many of the bases also aren't exactly close to big civic centers that would have jobs to be filled.

Bases DO have those jobs(BX, Commissary, etc.). There's even an office to help spouses with employment on and off base.

That said, not everyone knows how to go about getting those jobs or that the employment aid services exist.

 dogma wrote:

Is there an agreement which allows American military spouses to work when abroad?

Depends where. When I was in germany, it was mostly spouses and a few German nationals who worked at our PX (think army's really crappy version of Walmart)... Basically, if there's a job on base in day care, banking, or most of the other programs, chances are there's an opportunity for the spouse to work. Of course, there's also in our agreements with places like Germany where we are contractually bound to employ a certain percentage of locals.