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Hasbro could only do positive things with GW IP.

1) As a large company, they can't micromanage decisions. So they'll hire someone who knows how to run a wargaming company to run GW properly.

2) They'll diversify the Warhammer and 40k IP. This means video games, RPGs, and even card games. More variety is good. Heck we might even see some(good)movies come out eventually. The specialist games would also likely make a comeback. As one off games, they'd be profitable to sell in more traditional sales avenues like Toys-R-US and Walmart.

3) We'll see tournament support again, and on a larger scale. This means we'll see decent balanced rulesets to facilitate competitive play.

Do I want to see this happen? Yea I do. Will it happen? Probably not. The reason why is the same thing I have been saying for years. Games WorkShop is a SMALL time player with such a BAD negativity on it's IP on how it conducts business as viewed by the customer base, which by the way is dwindling.

The progression on why certain actions are being done by the corporation are very interesting indeed.

Maybe Rupert Murdock will help bail them out eh? Heh... Heh... Heh...

GW could at least learn something from the way Hasbro/WotC handle things like Magic. Community interaction, teasers and spoilers, proper release events with promos and prizes, numerous supported events, etc. GW hide it's product behind a wall of secrecy, cut all the content from it's website, gut their magazine, end tournament support and treat the community like something to constantly attack and attempt to gag. Also the RRP of a MtG booster pack and other sets hasn't changed since I started over two years ago, which is not something you can say of much GW product.

Guess which one is going from strength to strength? I don't know if Hasbro would be good for the future of GW, but GW doesn't have a future with the current owners.

The Last thing we need Is yanks in charge.
This thread just sums up how jealous the americans are that the best and most successful gaming company Is english.

blingman wrote:
The Last thing we need Is yanks in charge.
This thread just sums up how jealous the americans are that the best and most successful gaming company Is english.

Um, no.

I really have no words here.

blingman wrote:
The Last thing we need Is yanks in charge.
This thread just sums up how jealous the americans are that the best and most successful gaming company Is english.

And gw is going from strength to strength thanks to its English management. Oh, wait....

'Jealousy' isn't the word you're looking for...

Plenty American companies do a good job bro. Fine, they can't remake a movie worth a damn, but they're quite good in a lot of other areas.

I love how the majority of poster on this site whinge and whine about how much they hate gw and their products and or games but of course they still play them and buy the products.
Here's an idea, how about you stop playing the game altogether and leave it to the people who enjoy the game? Maybe you'd be more suited to a gakky game like magic the gathering?

 Grey Templar wrote:
Hasbro could only do positive things with GW IP.

1) As a large company, they can't micromanage decisions. So they'll hire someone who knows how to run a wargaming company to run GW properly.

Danger with outsiders coming into a company always is that they don't understand the business and screw things up with "brand extensions" or "streamlining" or whatnot. Look at what happened with Rackham.

 Grey Templar wrote:

2) They'll diversify the Warhammer and 40k IP. This means video games, RPGs, and even card games. More variety is good. Heck we might even see some(good)movies come out eventually. The specialist games would also likely make a comeback. As one off games, they'd be profitable to sell in more traditional sales avenues like Toys-R-US and Walmart.

Uh, there already is 40k video games, card games and RPG's. And I sure rather see BFG stay dead than return as some watered down one-off boardgame.

Dish2296 wrote:
I love how the majority of poster on this site whinge and whine about how much they hate gw and their products and or games but of course they still play them and buy the products.
Here's an idea, how about you stop playing the game altogether and leave it to the people who enjoy the game? Maybe you'd be more suited to a gakky game like magic the gathering?

There it is folks, the trifecta.

-The "H" word.
-The "If you don't like it, quit" fallacy
-The snipe at the competing game to finish off.


I'll go fill in my forum bingo card.

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Dish2296 wrote:
I love how the majority of poster on this site whinge and whine about how much they hate gw and their products and or games but of course they still play them and buy the products.
Here's an idea, how about you stop playing the game altogether and leave it to the people who enjoy the game? Maybe you'd be more suited to a gakky game like magic the gathering?

First of all, I haven't played a GW game or bought anything from them since shortly after sixth edition dropped.

Second, I'm just going to use a quote of mine that has popped up in Jonolikespie's signature, because it sums up things fairly well:

I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.

 Fafnir wrote:

Dish2296 wrote:
I love how the majority of poster on this site whinge and whine about how much they hate gw and their products and or games but of course they still play them and buy the products.
Here's an idea, how about you stop playing the game altogether and leave it to the people who enjoy the game? Maybe you'd be more suited to a gakky game like magic the gathering?

First of all, I haven't played a GW game or bought anything from them since shortly after sixth edition dropped.

Second, I'm just going to use a quote of mine that has popped up in Jonolikespie's signature, because it sums up things fairly well:

I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.

Yep, there is a damn good reason I sig'd that. T'was true then and is still true now.

blingman wrote:
The Last thing we need Is yanks in charge.
This thread just sums up how jealous the americans are that the best and most successful gaming company Is english.

You think that's why people have a problem with GW? Because they are English? Not because they are constantly letting down their customer base with over priced models, gak policy's, no respect for their customers and rules that are not worth the paper they are printed on? No it's due to rampant nationalism. I don't mean to be rude but your assertion is ridiculous.

Dish2296 wrote:
I love how the majority of poster on this site whinge and whine about how much they hate gw and their products and or games but of course they still play them and buy the products.
Here's an idea, how about you stop playing the game altogether and leave it to the people who enjoy the game? Maybe you'd be more suited to a gakky game like magic the gathering?

I don't play 40k anymore. I did buy something recently - the new Tyranid codex and a box of Termagants. The first GW purchase in about 12 months. I've moved on to a game I enjoy much more. Prettier models, fewer on the table (suits my painting speed), amazing balance and a company that actively involves itself with the community.

blingman wrote:
The Last thing we need Is yanks in charge.
This thread just sums up how jealous the americans are that the best and most successful gaming company Is english.

Troll harder.

Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, I give you exhibit A, this users last post, from back in March..

blingman wrote:
This thread brings me enjoyment somewhat, like many of the anti GW threads, a strange sense of satisfaction that Gw is going from strength to strength, and its plain to see that a lot of posters just don't like this fact.
It stems from jealousy I think, the uk has the top spot in wargaming and some folk just cannot take it.
Bottom line is Gw is fine and IS the hobby to most people.

Obvious Troll Account is Obvious, I recommend no one give this person any more attention.

blingman wrote:
The Last thing we need Is yanks in charge.
This thread just sums up how jealous the americans are that the best and most successful gaming company Is english.

I feel dirty just reading this.

blingman wrote:
The Last thing we need Is yanks in charge.
This thread just sums up how jealous the americans are that the best and most successful gaming company Is english.

GW never has been the most successful gaming company. Most successful wargame company sure, maybe 10 years ago.

Now they've handily been overtaken by PP, who is more successful and better. Not bigger, more successful. Success is not pissing off your fanbase and alienating existing customers.

Joey/Testify is back?

 Pacific wrote:
Joey/Testify is back?

While it isn't impossible that it's a second account, the sign up date is two years ago, so it either shows a remarkable degree of foresight, exemplary restraint in it's use, or it is just someone who pops in occasionally to be a bit..inflammatory.

Rest assured, if it is a duplicate, the mods will catch it.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Voted yes so that Hasbro can add ponies to 40k in an attempt to get more girls playing.

+1.

Actually, one can only vote YES, after what Hasbro did with the My Little Pony franchise for the last few years.

To be fair I don't think anyone predicted MLP would explode like it did - plus the way it exploded its kind of a free ticket for any owning company to make a fortune from (esp considering that its basically gone like HelloKitty in that you can slap a pony on anything and make it sell )

I vote yes, because hasbro gives magic the gathering and it's community wonderfull support and puts the way GW treatd it's player base to shame. Also greatly supports the FLGS that sells their product. They are not at war with their partners like GW is.

D&D 4th is the only sore point for them in regards to their player base. 4th ed D&D is a great rpg. The problem is it's not a D&D game. They have even said that was their biggeat mistake when makeing it.

Also yes the My little pony reboot is amazing. Thow thats a case of a perfect storm of talent comeing together. I'm not 100% sure how much of a hand hasbro had in makeing that happen.

Then we can finally have PonyK, Warhammer:Orks in DisGiZ.
And the, Warhammer, The Gathering

I'd love to see a Warhammer card game do well..

D&D 4th is the only sore point for them in regards to their player base. 4th ed D&D is a great rpg. The problem is it's not a D&D game. They have even said that was their biggeat mistake when makeing it.

Please, that's only just to please that angry grognards. 3E and 3.5E is drastic enough that people hated it from 2E, and to many of them it wouldn't be DND, to first edition players it would be a tragic hilarity that people called 2E a dnd game at all, It's as much DnD as the rest, calling it something else is just something to placate the grognards.

As it is, Hasbro still would do better then GW as it comes down to what works.

Hasbro has had bad times, and good times...GW can't seem to find anything good lately.

I WANT the management to change. GW have done some amazing things in the past, and I do think the company ought to stay British because patriotism and because there is so much about 40K, especially early on, that is uniquely British.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

D&D 4th is the only sore point for them in regards to their player base. 4th ed D&D is a great rpg. The problem is it's not a D&D game. They have even said that was their biggeat mistake when makeing it.

Please, that's only just to please that angry grognards. 3E and 3.5E is drastic enough that people hated it from 2E, and to many of them it wouldn't be DND, to first edition players it would be a tragic hilarity that people called 2E a dnd game at all, It's as much DnD as the rest, calling it something else is just something to placate the grognards.

As it is, Hasbro still would do better then GW as it comes down to what works.

Hasbro has had bad times, and good times...GW can't seem to find anything good lately.

I acctully realy like 4th ed, sadly in some gameing circules that will bassicly get you lynched. lol

But you still can't ignore the back-lash that 4th ed caused, and how Pathfinder came and picked up a huge part of the D&D player base. But the big diffrence between GW and Hasbro is how they are handleing the issues.

Hasbro: Aw shoot we just lost a huge chunk of the player base! We need to generate more sales of product with FLGS programs like D&D encounters! Still isn't working? Let's write a new edition to adress the issues players are haveing with our game.

GW: Profits are down! Quick! Time to raise prices and force more core product into direct sales only so we make a bigger profit margin! People didn't like out 6th ed supplements! We need 7th ed to FORCE people to use them!

 Lockark wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

D&D 4th is the only sore point for them in regards to their player base. 4th ed D&D is a great rpg. The problem is it's not a D&D game. They have even said that was their biggeat mistake when makeing it.

Please, that's only just to please that angry grognards. 3E and 3.5E is drastic enough that people hated it from 2E, and to many of them it wouldn't be DND, to first edition players it would be a tragic hilarity that people called 2E a dnd game at all, It's as much DnD as the rest, calling it something else is just something to placate the grognards.

As it is, Hasbro still would do better then GW as it comes down to what works.

Hasbro has had bad times, and good times...GW can't seem to find anything good lately.

I acctully realy like 4th ed, sadly in some gameing circules that will bassicly get you lynched. lol

Same, but what can you do. I still rage to this day when I hear "Why don't you play a real version of DnD?"

But as stated, Hasbro has been doing good things as well as bad, while GW.. Well I hope 7th is good, cause seeing Ezekial summon a daemon give me much pause.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Lockark wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

D&D 4th is the only sore point for them in regards to their player base. 4th ed D&D is a great rpg. The problem is it's not a D&D game. They have even said that was their biggeat mistake when makeing it.

Please, that's only just to please that angry grognards. 3E and 3.5E is drastic enough that people hated it from 2E, and to many of them it wouldn't be DND, to first edition players it would be a tragic hilarity that people called 2E a dnd game at all, It's as much DnD as the rest, calling it something else is just something to placate the grognards.

As it is, Hasbro still would do better then GW as it comes down to what works.

Hasbro has had bad times, and good times...GW can't seem to find anything good lately.

I acctully realy like 4th ed, sadly in some gameing circules that will bassicly get you lynched. lol

Same, but what can you do. I still rage to this day when I hear "Why don't you play a real version of DnD?"

But as stated, Hasbro has been doing good things as well as bad, while GW.. Well I hope 7th is good, cause seeing Ezekial summon a daemon give me much pause.

Not to mention the head scrather of unbound armies.

Fantsey magic phase is something i've wanted in 40k for awhile. The objective deck sounds interesting, but could easily be terrible.

 Squigsquasher wrote:

Litcheur wrote:

Actually, one can only vote YES, after what Hasbro did with the My Little Pony franchise for the last few years.

What, you mean turned it into a monstrous, bloated, pus-seeping cash-cow of Nurgle with a colossal "fanbase" of pedophilic manchildren?

No thanks. The day MLP gets officially related to 40K is the day I put a bolt shell through my head (as well as everyone else's).

So if a TV show gets linked to a game, you will kill other people and then yourself?

And you call fans of that TV show "manchildren"?


Also on the topic of 4E DnD. I also liked it. I never got a lot of the criticism against it. With a good GM there really wasn't anything you could do in previous editions that you couldn't do in 4th and it gave non-magic based classes something more interesting to do than "Hit enemy with sword/club/rock etc."

 Squigsquasher wrote:

Litcheur wrote:

Actually, one can only vote YES, after what Hasbro did with the My Little Pony franchise for the last few years.

What, you mean turned it into a monstrous, bloated, pus-seeping cash-cow of Nurgle with a colossal "fanbase" of pedophilic manchildren?

No thanks. The day MLP gets officially related to 40K is the day I put a bolt shell through my head (as well as everyone else's).

...said the guy with the little anime girl as an avatar.

On topic:

I don't even care any more. I don't think Hasboro could do much worse, but in the off chance they did do worse, I'd buy just as much Warhammer stuff as I do right now, IE, none at all. So I'm going to vote "Yes", but not an enthusiastic yes. If they do better then I'll be buying again.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

Also on the topic of 4E DnD. I also liked it. I never got a lot of the criticism against it. With a good GM there really wasn't anything you could do in previous editions that you couldn't do in 4th and it gave non-magic based classes something more interesting to do than "Hit enemy with sword/club/rock etc."

Playing having GM'd the current edition of gamma world, which is built on 4th ed DnD, with no previous DnD experience, I never felt any sort of restrictions or lack of options. Granted, I had to get creative with things (and by get creative, I mean get completely sloshed on white Russians and pull everything out of my ass as we went), but compared to the games of Pathfinder I've played, I felt I had given my players more options.