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 Ahtman wrote:
Am I the only one that would like to see the Daleks be shelved for a bit? I like them and all, but showing up every season sort of dilutes them a bit for me. I think the best episode in the new series was "Dalek" back in series 1 becuase it A) made them seem dangerous B) made them mysterious and C) told us something about the Doctor and the Time War. That isn't to say I haven't enjoyed them since then either, just that I just feel they use them to often.

As I recall British actor that wasn't white was offered the role and turned it down. [The producers] didn't say who, just that it did happen.


Dalek is one of the most overlooked episodes of the new who, people skip 9 and miss the doctor who equivalent of Alien.
   
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Dalek was a great episode, I loved 9's performance in that and the Dalek was actually scary.

My big problem with the Daleks of late is that they're supposed to be crazy genius hovering battle tanks of genocidal power...but they just come off as goofy and inept, they're just too easily defeated in ridiculous ways.

I'm hoping this new season will change that


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 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
They should get Helena Bonham Carter to be the Dr she'd be ace


Holy crap would that be amazing. I honestly can't think of any other female British actress I'd like to see as the Doctor.

~Tim?

How about halfway?

Spoiler:

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Agreed, Dalek is easily one of the top 10 nu-who episodes. Great performances all round, and the best (re)introduction of a villain since Darth Vader strode through the smoke on Tantive IV.

To be honest, I'd like to see Daleks without some kind of Doomsday Weapon (Reality Bomb/Genesis Ark), Reincarnation (Human Daleks, Smarties Daleks) or playing second fiddle (Pandorica Alliance, Siege of Treznalore, Zygons). Just have, as Tennat put it, 'A Dalek Empire big enough to slaughter the Cosmos', so let's just have that. Victory and Asylum established there's a full-blown Dalek Empire out there, and to see it in action as the invincible, unstoppable force it is would be awesome, and not something the new show has really had. It's fine to give them a plan and a plot, as otherwise there's serious writing issues, but they're supposed to be all-but-invincible, and believe themselves the ultimate life form; why do they need tricks and traps, then? Reality Bomb is pointless when there's a few billion Daleks just ready to make war.

 
   
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Has there ever been a Dalek story without 'tricks and traps'?

The Daleks: Nukes
Dalek IoE: Robomen and Slave-Humans
Daleks: Time Travel Assassin Squad, Robo-Doctor
Dalek Master Plan: Time Destructor
Power of the Daleks: Hiding as servants
Evil of the Daleks: Human-esque Daleks\

Etc, so on...


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I think the recent arc with the Time War is closest since the Time Lords are the ones with the tricks and traps and the Daleks are just flooding them with Daleks.

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Exactly, which is why I'd love to just see Daleks doing what they do best. To be honest, the plot wouldn't even need to be that complex, it could simply be the Doctor saving a planet under Dalek occupation (the population being used as slaves ect). You'd get to to see the Daleks utterly in their element (as opposed to scavengers/outcasts/ mutants), there would be plenty of potential for character development both of Doctor and Companion; For example, does he endanger the populace by getting them to try and fight back, or does he do it solo and subsequently fail without them (humans are important Companion lecture blah blah blah)

The thing with the Daleks is, along with the Master, they are everything the Doctor is not (or thinks he's not, even if he is at times) so they are the perfect foil for setting up a new version of the character. Put the Doctor completely on the back foot, facing the only enemy he hates as much as himself, wind him up and watch him go. A little less 'OHMYGOD the Daleks are blowing up the universe' and more character stuff*

I don't think the Daleks need tricks to be a threat or a foil, just by existing they cause all kinds of moral dilemmas for the Doctor, provide a danger to the companion and go around being awesome, which is all the things DW needs.


* stuff like the line in Asylum:
'you find Hatred beautiful?"
"Perhaps that is why we have been unable to kill you."

Stuff that really sets up the character and his true nature that, maybe, only the Daleks have seen, and tests every aspect of his abilities, values, character and ideals.

or Dalek's 'You would make a good Dalek.'

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 pretre wrote:
 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
They should get Helena Bonham Carter to be the Dr she'd be ace


Holy crap would that be amazing. I honestly can't think of any other female British actress I'd like to see as the Doctor.

~Tim?

How about halfway?

Spoiler:


Oh, Tilda Swinton as the Doctor? You know, I can see that. Actually, the more I think about it the better I like it. She has eccentric look that you need to be convincing as the Doctor, and she's a pretty versatile actress.

~Tim?

   
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I'm not a particularly big Dr Who fan, I mean, I watch the show but that's about it.

However, the one thing that really, really annoys me, is that every enemy is completely unstoppable, utterly undefeatable, except for something pulled out of the rear end at the last minute (Heart of the TARDIS, Regeneration Energy of uber pwnage, sonic screwdriver of infinite calculations).

It's like Superweapon Top Trumps. Daleks come to wipe out humanity, oh no, superweapon wipes out the Daleks. Daleks come back with an unstoppable superweapon to wipe out the galaxy. Oh wait, Superweapon wipes out the Daleks and their unstoppable superweapon.

What I think they need to do, again, speaking as not a massive fan, is just depower, well... Everything.

Yeah, have the Cybermen / Daleks / Angels be huge threats. Just stop with the whole 'wiping out the galaxy / all-existence / time itself' thing.

Bad guys can still be huge enemies and bad guys, even if they take some proper casualties occasionally, or even lose the odd battle, fair and squarely.

Take for example, the Cybermen on the Theme Park planet episode from last season. You have like 30 guys, The Doctor, a few rubbish guns, a decent gun and a bomb.

VS what? 10000 cybermen. 10,000.

But, that wasn't a big enough threat. No, they felt they had to turn the cybermen into Sonic-The-Hedgehog, Ninja, psychic, Borg.

Would the Cybermen really have been massively less of a threat, if, instead of 'Adapting' or 'upgrading' or whatever it was, to the 1 good gun and the handful of rubbish guns, to just have the Good Gun, you know, run out of ammo after it killed a bunch? There'd still be 9,950 left or whatever. Have the other guns take some down too, after a lot of fire.


Sorry about that rant, but it does sort of annoy me that the show could be something that I'd genuinely enjoy but I just end up rolling my eyes at due to yet another arbitrary thing pulled out of thin air.
   
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 Compel wrote:
I'm not a particularly big Dr Who fan, I mean, I watch the show but that's about it.

However, the one thing that really, really annoys me, is that every enemy is completely unstoppable, utterly undefeatable, except for something pulled out of the rear end at the last minute (Heart of the TARDIS, Regeneration Energy of uber pwnage, sonic screwdriver of infinite calculations).

It's like Superweapon Top Trumps. Daleks come to wipe out humanity, oh no, superweapon wipes out the Daleks. Daleks come back with an unstoppable superweapon to wipe out the galaxy. Oh wait, Superweapon wipes out the Daleks and their unstoppable superweapon.

What I think they need to do, again, speaking as not a massive fan, is just depower, well... Everything.

Yeah, have the Cybermen / Daleks / Angels be huge threats. Just stop with the whole 'wiping out the galaxy / all-existence / time itself' thing.

Bad guys can still be huge enemies and bad guys, even if they take some proper casualties occasionally, or even lose the odd battle, fair and squarely.

Take for example, the Cybermen on the Theme Park planet episode from last season. You have like 30 guys, The Doctor, a few rubbish guns, a decent gun and a bomb.

VS what? 10000 cybermen. 10,000.

But, that wasn't a big enough threat. No, they felt they had to turn the cybermen into Sonic-The-Hedgehog, Ninja, psychic, Borg.

Would the Cybermen really have been massively less of a threat, if, instead of 'Adapting' or 'upgrading' or whatever it was, to the 1 good gun and the handful of rubbish guns, to just have the Good Gun, you know, run out of ammo after it killed a bunch? There'd still be 9,950 left or whatever. Have the other guns take some down too, after a lot of fire.


Sorry about that rant, but it does sort of annoy me that the show could be something that I'd genuinely enjoy but I just end up rolling my eyes at due to yet another arbitrary thing pulled out of thin air.


I agree wholeheartedly with this, Deus Ex Sonic needs to happen less and the plots need to be resolved through actual confrontations/clever plans that don't rely on super-gadgets/blasting the enemy into the middle of next year. And I do agree about the Daleks/Cybermen/whoever are a credible threat without wanting to blow up the universe.

I mean, the Cybermen are human brains encased in metal bodies, stripped of all emotion and intent on eliminating all life that is not like them, simply because they believe themselves superior. Is that not enough of a threat when they also outnumber the protagonists 5 to 1? They didn't and don't need the superpowers.

The same is true for Daleks, as I outlined a few posts back. So less one-upmanship, more actual plot resolutions, please, BBC....

 
   
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Wait wait, are you not familiar with the history of Doctor Who? Its been Deus Ex Sonic back to black and white grandpa Doctor taking his wee ones on educational adventures through history.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 Frazzled wrote:
Wait wait, are you not familiar with the history of Doctor Who? Its been Deus Ex Sonic back to black and white grandpa Doctor taking his wee ones on educational adventures through history.


Well, the sonic wasn't introduced until the second Doctor, I believe, and it's first use was to... guess what... undo a screw! I'm just annoying that these days, between the Sonic, the TARDIS and occasionally singing, the Doctor can apparently do anything. It's become too much of a crutch for bad writing, and I'd be happy for him to lose it irreplaceable for a few series if it meant the writers had to actually write something other than:

DOCTOR: I've got this....
waves sonic manically whilst babbling

THE END*

*and they all lived happily ever after as no non-enemy has died (permanently) in Dr Who in about 4 years! Yet another sign that the writers lack guts.

 
   
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Frazzled episode:

Doctor steps out of Tardis and surprises two Sontarans.
Sontarans surprised: shoot him.
Garg - he falls down and regenerates.
Sontarans shoot him again
"Bloody hell!" garg he falls down and regenerates.
Sontarans shoot him again.
"Oh come on!" garg he falls down and regenerates.
Sontarans shoot him again...

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 Paradigm wrote:


I agree wholeheartedly with this, Deus Ex Sonic needs to happen less and the plots need to be resolved through actual confrontations/clever plans that don't rely on super-gadgets/blasting the enemy into the middle of next year. And I do agree about the Daleks/Cybermen/whoever are a credible threat without wanting to blow up the universe.

I mean, the Cybermen are human brains encased in metal bodies, stripped of all emotion and intent on eliminating all life that is not like them, simply because they believe themselves superior. Is that not enough of a threat when they also outnumber the protagonists 5 to 1? They didn't and don't need the superpowers.

The same is true for Daleks, as I outlined a few posts back. So less one-upmanship, more actual plot resolutions, please, BBC....


The term I'd heard used was "Davies ex Machina" as a swipe at Russell T Davies' tendency to write himself into a corner, then sonic screwdriver his way out. If only Moffat hadn't continued the tradition. Oh well.

But I agree they need to tone down the threat level and power of the bad guys. Too many things are threatening the entire universe every episode. I can't manage to make myself care, because the scope is too big. Dalek, I could get excited over. The immediate threat was to the Doctor, Rose, and the other people in the underground base. It was small and I liked that. The episode about the plastic people in the acid mine becoming 'human' was a good one; again, the threat is just to the Doc, his sidekicks and the small guest cast. We need more like that.

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squidhills wrote:
But I agree they need to tone down the threat level and power of the bad guys. Too many things are threatening the entire universe every episode. I can't manage to make myself care, because the scope is too big. Dalek, I could get excited over. The immediate threat was to the Doctor, Rose, and the other people in the underground base. It was small and I liked that. The episode about the plastic people in the acid mine becoming 'human' was a good one; again, the threat is just to the Doc, his sidekicks and the small guest cast. We need more like that.

Okay, I just disagree. There have been plenty of 'retail' threats that were just vs Doc/Sidekick/Small Cast. In addition, there have been tons of 'Save the Earth' ones which the Doctor has been famous for since the beginning. So I'll assume we're talking about just 'the fate of all of creation is in the doctor's hands' episodes.

Let's look at the newest season:
17 Episodes - 7 Retail / 6 Save the Planet / 3 Wholesale / 1 Arguable
Spoiler:

Xmas - Retail vs Trees and Family
1 - Asylum - Retail. Daleks/Doctor/Amy/Rory vs Insane Daleks and Nanos
2 - Dinos - Retail/STP. Dr and Dinos vs Ship/Crazy old dude
3 - Mercy - Retail.
4 - Power of Three - Save the Earth.
5 - Angels - Save the Earth
Xmas - Snowmen - Save the Earth
6 -BoSJ - STE
7 - Rings - Retail/STP
8 - Cold War - Retail
9 - Hide - Retail
10 - Journey to the - Retail
11 - Crimson Horror - Retail
12 - Nightmare in silver - Arguably retail, but potential for Wholesale
13 - Name of the Doctor - End of Season Arc. Definitely Wholesale
DoTD - 50th Anni. Of course it is wholesale
ToTD - Moving to new doctor wrapping up Day and Name. Wholesale

So the entire season is basically Retail saving the day and saving the earth until the big end of season bang. I think if you go back, you'll see a lot of similar things, but just for funsies, let's look at Baker's first, second to last and last seasons for comparison:

Season 12
5 Episodes - 2 Retail / 2 STE / 1 Wholesale
Spoiler:

Robot - Save the Earth/Retail
Ark in Space - Retail
Sontaran Experiment - Retail/STE
Genesis of the Daleks - Retail-esque but with Save the Universe connotations (similar to nightmare in silver)
Revenge of the Cybermen - Retail


Season 17
6 Episodes - 3 Retail / 2 STP / 1 Wholesale
Spoiler:

Destiny of the Daleks - Retail / Save the Planet
City of Death - Retail
Creature from the Bit - Retail
Nightmare of Eden - Retail
Horns of Nimon - Save the Planet
Shada - Arguably save the Universe.


Season 18
7 Episodes - 4 Retail / 2 STP / 1 Wholesale
Spoiler:

Leisure Hive - Retail
Meglos - Retail
Full Circle - Retail
State of Decay - Save the Planet / Arguably StU
Warrior's Gate - Retail-ish
Keeper of Traken - Retail / StP
Logopolis - Last Tom Baker and wait for it... Save the Universe... Which continues into the next season with Castrovalva, still Save the Universe.


Lookit that, just as much 'Save the Planet' or 'Save the Universe' in classic as there is now... Funny that. Especially at the end of a Doctor's tenure there's a tendency to go for big sweeping stories.

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squidhills wrote:
 Paradigm wrote:


I agree wholeheartedly with this, Deus Ex Sonic needs to happen less and the plots need to be resolved through actual confrontations/clever plans that don't rely on super-gadgets/blasting the enemy into the middle of next year. And I do agree about the Daleks/Cybermen/whoever are a credible threat without wanting to blow up the universe.

I mean, the Cybermen are human brains encased in metal bodies, stripped of all emotion and intent on eliminating all life that is not like them, simply because they believe themselves superior. Is that not enough of a threat when they also outnumber the protagonists 5 to 1? They didn't and don't need the superpowers.

The same is true for Daleks, as I outlined a few posts back. So less one-upmanship, more actual plot resolutions, please, BBC....


The term I'd heard used was "Davies ex Machina" as a swipe at Russell T Davies' tendency to write himself into a corner, then sonic screwdriver his way out. If only Moffat hadn't continued the tradition. Oh well.

But I agree they need to tone down the threat level and power of the bad guys. Too many things are threatening the entire universe every episode. I can't manage to make myself care, because the scope is too big. Dalek, I could get excited over. The immediate threat was to the Doctor, Rose, and the other people in the underground base. It was small and I liked that. The episode about the plastic people in the acid mine becoming 'human' was a good one; again, the threat is just to the Doc, his sidekicks and the small guest cast. We need more like that.


Precisely why I like 'Journey To The Centre of the TARDIS', 'Asylum of the Daleks'. 'Hide' and to a lesser extent 'Cold War' and 'The Crimson Horror' in the last series. Each focused on a very small cast (who were consistently good, especially the guests) and the threat was no less for being localised. I found it far easier to be concerned about The Doctor, Clara and the miners in 'Journey' or the blind woman in 'Horror' than the guys in the Nightmare in Silver, as when you have enemies that powerful and no way to beat them, Deus Ex Machina becomes the only possible option, it's only a matter of time.

Other episodes that do this exceptionally well are fairly common (Flesh and Stone, Blink, Human Nature, Silence in the Library), so it's clearly possible and not massively difficult, so I'd like to see more of it.

 
   
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Hmm, there's a theory. End of a Doctor is STU?
First - The Tenth Planet - Save the Planet.
Second - The War Games - Save the Universe
Third - Planet of the Spiders - Save the Universe
Fourth - Logopolis - Save the Universe
Fifth - Caves of Androzani - Save the Planet
Sixth - The Ultimate Foe - Retail with STU implications
Seventh - Survival - Retail
Eighth - Doctor Who - Save the Planet
War - Night of the Doctor - Kinda, but mostly retail
Nine - Parting of the Ways - Save the Universe
Ten - End of Time - STU
Eleven - Name/Day/Time of the Doctor - STU

So yeah, pretty much, 6 of the 12 times it was STU. Sounds like a tradition to me.

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Seems fair. After all, it only makes sense to send a Doctor off in style, and there's certainly a place for the more 'huge' epispde.

 
   
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And to be clear, I totally get the complaints about Sonic'ing everything. I just think saying that 'everything is save the universe' is a little inaccurate.

Personally, I'm hoping that we get to see a return to Venusian Judo to solve problems.

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 pretre wrote:

Personally, I'm hoping that we get to see a return to Venusian Judo to solve problems.


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I kinda got a Pertwee feel out of the new outfit.



And while looking for images, I found I'm not the only one...

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And to be clear, I totally get the complaints about Sonic'ing everything. I just think saying that 'everything is save the universe' is a little inaccurate.

Personally, I'm hoping that we get to see a return to Venusian Judo to solve problems.



Sometimes I actually get the feeling that The Doctor starts "sonic-ing" everything to make it appear that he knows what he's doing, which I guess the point is that he really doesnt half the time... Beyond that, yeah, I do also think it get's a bit over used, and hopefully with some of the War Doctor's lines, we'll see a turn towards 12 using his sonic as a "scientific instrument" again.
   
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I think that's a good point. Especially since it seems like a good chunk of the time, Sonic'ing does absolutely nothing.

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I figure this belongs here, as a) It's Dr Who related and b) It's bloody awesome!


 
   
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Old thread : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1950/336828.page

is locked, we'll use this one from now on.


... so this Saturday then

Episode guide :

Deep Breath
"Who frowned me this face?"

A slaughterhouse restaurant and a buried spaceship lead The Doctor into a confrontation with a long-forgotten foe...

Into The Dalek
"Imagine the worst thing in the universe, and then don't bother because you're looking at right now. This is evil refined as engineering."

In the dying days of a bitter war, a beleaguered army has one last hope: a Dalek so damaged it has become good. But can it be trusted? To find out, a miniaturised team, led by The Doctor and Clara, embark on a fantastic voyage into the Dalek itself...

Robot of Sherwood
"There's no such thing as Robin Hood!"

In a sun-dappled Sherwood Forest, The Doctor discovers an evil plan from beyond the stars. But with of Nottingham at stake (and possibly Derby), there's no time for the two adventurers to get into a fight about who is real and who isn't - which is probably why they do very little else!

Listen
"What's that in the mirror, and the corner of your eye? What's the footstep following, but never passing by?"

What scares the grand old man of time? What horrors lurk under his bed? Ghosts of the past and future crowd into the lives of The Doctor and Clara; a terrified caretaker in a children's home, the last man standing in the universe, and a little boy who doesn't want to join the army...

Time Heist
"Welcome to the bank of Karabraxos."

The Bank of Karabraxos is the deadliest bank in the cosmos - only a fool or genius would tempt to rob it. Fortunately, for The Doctor, he's both. But nothing even The Doctor has encountered can prepare them for the Teller: a creature of terrifying power that can detect guilt.

The Caretaker
"Human beings have incredibly short life-spans. Frankly, you should all be in a permanent state of panic. Tick tock, tick tock."

Clara has it all under control: her life at school, her life in space; her new boyfriend and her mad old Time Lord. Everything is humming along just fine, so long as everybody never actually meets. And then, one morning, just before assembly, Coal Hill welcomes a new relief caretaker with a Scottish accent.

Kill the Moon
"The little planetoid that's been tagging along beside you for a hundred million years, which gives you light at night and seas to sail, is in the process of falling to bits."

In the near future, The Doctor and Clara arrive on a decrepit shuttle making a suicide mission to the Moon. Crashing on the lunar surface, they find a mining base full of eviscerated corpses, spider-like creatures scuttling about in the dark, and a terrible dilemma.

Mummy on the Orient Express
"Start the clock!"

Aboard the most beautiful train in history, speeding among the stars of the future, a legend is stalking the passengers. Once you see the Mummy, you have 66 seconds to live. Clara sees The Doctor at his most deadliest and most ruthless - and finally she realises she's made the right decision. Because this is their last adventure: it's time to say goodbye to the Time Lord.

Flatline
"Look, your home isn't going anywhere. And neither is mine until I figure this out."

Separated from The Doctor, Clara discovers a new menace from another dimension. But how do you hide when even the walls are no protection?

In the Forest of the Night
"D'you like the forest being in Trafalgar Square? I think it's lovely."

One morning in London, and every city and town in the world, the human race wakes up to the most surprising invasion yet: the trees have moved back in. Everywhere, in every land, a forest has grown overnight and taken back the Earth.

Dark Water / Death in Heaven
"You betrayed me. You betrayed my trust, our friendship, and everything I've ever stood for. You let me down."

In the mysterious world of the Nethersphere, plans have been drawn. Old friends and old enemies manoeuvre around The Doctor, and an impossible choice is looming over him.




There's been some talk about Jenna Coleman leaving sooner rather than later, although it seems she will be in the Xmas special.



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Can't wait. Some of those episodes sound pretty cricket cringeworthy from that, but I've also seen some better descriptions of them elsewhere so I'll go into the series with as little preconception as possible. I fully expect Capaldi to be brilliant, it just remains to be seen whether Clara gets any less irritating and more three-dimensional. And seemed to be going that way at Christmas so we shall see.

 
   
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For those who are unaware, BBC America is currently running Doctor Who all day (barring the 6-8am timeslot for the BBC World News) leading up until the season premiere at 8pm Eastern on Saturday
   
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 Paradigm wrote:
Can't wait. I fully expect Capaldi to be brilliant, it just remains to be seen whether Clara gets any less irritating and more three-dimensional. And seemed to be going that way at Christmas so we shall see.



A lot of articles that I've seen have strongly suggested that there's a new companion on deck, and we'll meet him pretty soon.... I also recall Capaldi basically saying that if they wrote a love interest into the story between him and Clara he'd quit


From the few snippets we've seen on the TV and what dialogue he's had in them, I do hope they go "dark enough" and not in a Tim Burton Batman sort of way.
   
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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 Paradigm wrote:
Can't wait. I fully expect Capaldi to be brilliant, it just remains to be seen whether Clara gets any less irritating and more three-dimensional. And seemed to be going that way at Christmas so we shall see.



A lot of articles that I've seen have strongly suggested that there's a new companion on deck, and we'll meet him pretty soon.... I also recall Capaldi basically saying that if they wrote a love interest into the story between him and Clara he'd quit


From the few snippets we've seen on the TV and what dialogue he's had in them, I do hope they go "dark enough" and not in a Tim Burton Batman sort of way.


Yeah, I read that as well. The new companion seems to go the role of a Rory/Mickey to Clara's Amy/Rose. It's hardly original, but hey, it could work.

As for darkness, I'm hoping he will occupy a space between Tom Baker, Chris Ecclestone and Jon Pertwee, a little bit eccentric but also capable of condemning entire civilisations without a thought if they piss him off.

 
   
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As for darkness, I'm hoping he will occupy a space between Tom Baker, Chris Ecclestone and Jon Pertwee, a little bit eccentric but also capable of condemning entire civilisations without a thought if they piss him off.



I think you may be right, but I'd also suspect a bit of the 1st Doctor in there as well... That eccentric old bloke that when he says something, you just stop and listen, and then you do what he says to the letter.
   
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Well, at least one episode is set at Coal Hill, where it all started, so we could end up seeing a bit of Hartnell coming through, given the links to the old days.

 
   
 
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