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I'm totally on board with Capaldi as the Doctor! He has done a lot of excellent work in his time - he was BRILLIANT in The Thick of It. And while I'm a big Matt Smith fan, I'm pretty excited by the rumors that Capaldi's going to be a much more old-school Doctor - grumpy and mysterious and more than a little fierce.
That raptor stare Capaldi gave in the 50th was amazing. It was also good to know that he has been a life long super fan of the show, and hearing him talk about what it was like finding out he was the next Doctor really made me look forward to his run.
Matt Smith will always be my favorite, being the Doctor that really drew me into the show, followed closely by Patrick Troughton (I wish Netflix had more of what is left of his series) who I enjoyed most of the classic doctors as I devoured whatever episodes I could from the classic era.
Ecclestone didn't get long enough, but had possibly the most consistent run of quality in his one season.
Tennant and Smith both had a lot more to work with, and at their best, both performed exceptionally well. Smith had some bad writing in his last series, but the 50th and Christmas special were a great send-off for him. If I had to pick just one to watch, though, Tennant would edge it.
Also, you're missing John Hurt! He counts, dammit!
I eagerly await Peter C as the Doctor, I think he's going to bring a kind of dark gravitas to the role that we haven't had since Tom Baker, which will make a nice change from the manic eccentric we've had so far. The costume we've seen so far is also cool, very down to earth and practical. I'm also hoping that him being older will cut down on the Doctor-Companion near-romance that has really run its course and in a lot of ways really annoys me.
All in all, I can't wait. The first full run in a couple of years, the possibility of The Master returning, a new doctor and a whole new arc waiting for us. Series 7 was a bit iffy in the latter half (although there were some real crackers) but the last two specials have restored my faith. I think this new series will mark a change of direction, hopefully for the better.
Besides, haw can you not love a character whose first lines are to complain about the colour of his kidneys and then crash a time machine?
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Eh, I liked the doctor as that silly, random, and eccentric guy that looked like he was travelling time and space mostly for the lulz. It was what I was used to.
I've never seen the older Doctor Who episodes, so this will be a different change for me. I'm a bit curious as to how this will turn out.
Paradigm wrote: Besides, haw can you not love a character whose first lines are to complain about the colour of his kidneys and then crash a time machine?
... Okay, now I'm really curious.
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SkavenLord wrote: Eh, I liked the doctor as that silly, random, and eccentric guy that looked like he was travelling time and space mostly for the lulz. It was what I was used to. .
Oh, I agree, that version of the character was great, and very well handled by Smith and Tennant. I just think it's time to move on from that now, maybe bring back a little more of the darkness that some of the earlier characters had. In the same way that Tennant's light-heartedness worked after Ecclestone's anger, contrast helps set up a new iteration of the character.
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I eagerly await Peter C as the Doctor, I think he's going to bring a kind of dark gravitas to the role that we haven't had since Tom Baker, which will make a nice change from the manic eccentric we've had so far. The costume we've seen so far is also cool, very down to earth and practical. I'm also hoping that him being older will cut down on the Doctor-Companion near-romance that has really run its course and in a lot of ways really annoys me.
All in all, I can't wait. The first full run in a couple of years, the possibility of The Master returning, a new doctor and a whole new arc waiting for us. Series 7 was a bit iffy in the latter half (although there were some real crackers) but the last two specials have restored my faith. I think this new series will mark a change of direction, hopefully for the better.
Well, goin gby the set photos I've seen of Capaldi's Doctor being hugged by Clara, you won't have any worries there. He was visibly recoiling/looking really put-off and confused. Kinda like how I respond to unexpected hugs.
And if we get to see The Master again, please please please let him be played by Charles Dance. That would be INSANELY amazing.
~Tim?
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Dance as The Master would be great, again potentially a huge contrast to the (great) John Simm version that would work really well with Capaldi.
And yes, those on-set shots do give me some hope. They're apparently bringing in a boyfriend character for Clara, but that's at least slightly less annoying than her excessively flirty relationship with Doctor 11 (or is that 12 now? Or 13? ) In all honesty, I'm hoping Clara goes at the end of this series, she's been better since she stopping being a plot point (seriously, after 'The Doctor-Donna','The Girl Who Waited' and 'The Impossible Girl', it would be nice to have a companion who is a character rather than a plot arc )
Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote: I'm totally on board with Capaldi as the Doctor! He has done a lot of excellent work in his time - he was BRILLIANT in The Thick of It. And while I'm a big Matt Smith fan, I'm pretty excited by the rumors that Capaldi's going to be a much more old-school Doctor - grumpy and mysterious and more than a little fierce.
~Tim?
For Me, I have never seen a single movie or show with hime in it. He sounds pretty good though!
SkavenLord wrote: Eh, I liked the doctor as that silly, random, and eccentric guy that looked like he was travelling time and space mostly for the lulz. It was what I was used to.
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Oh, I agree, that version of the character was great, and very well handled by Smith and Tennant. I just think it's time to move on from that now, maybe bring back a little more of the darkness that some of the earlier characters had. In the same way that Tennant's light-heartedness worked after Ecclestone's anger, contrast helps set up a new iteration of the character.
Oh, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm actually looking forward to it. Like I said though, I never saw the older doctors so this will be quite the change for me.
Just at a curiosity, what were the older doctors like?
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I really hope they don't use the Daleks or Cybermen this time round
they've been overused since the new run started
(I understand why as they've paid for the FX and don't have anything like the budget of a big US show, but still much as I like them the both need a rest)
SkavenLord wrote: Eh, I liked the doctor as that silly, random, and eccentric guy that looked like he was travelling time and space mostly for the lulz. It was what I was used to.
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Oh, I agree, that version of the character was great, and very well handled by Smith and Tennant. I just think it's time to move on from that now, maybe bring back a little more of the darkness that some of the earlier characters had. In the same way that Tennant's light-heartedness worked after Ecclestone's anger, contrast helps set up a new iteration of the character.
Oh, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm actually looking forward to it. Like I said though, I never saw the older doctors so this will be quite the change for me.
Just at a curiosity, what were the older doctors like?
Ok, brief history:
Doc 1: Old eccentric who got increasingly cranky, very much a thinking man rather than a man of action (his companion tended to fill this role)
Doc 2: Younger, rather more light-hearted, but still a little irritable.
Doc 3: Older again, very scientific but also did a lot of combat stuff (Venusian Karate, Hiyaaa!) and worked with UNIT a lot.
Doc 4: Younger, very cheerful but capable of taking a darker streak, very adventurous.
Doc 5: Not seen much of him, but again younger, and rather active. Rather funny at times.
Doc 6: Fairly young, very funny and light-hearted but could be a little harsh or sarcastic.
Doc 7: Older, (Scottish!) pretty dark at times, but also exceptionally funny (and the only man to scream 'UNLIMITED RICE PUDDING at the Daleks)
Doc 8: Only in the 1996 film and the 2013 'Night of the Doctor' short. Pretty active and eccentric, also a bit of an idealist and not so dark.
There you go. Obviously, there's more to it than that, but that's the basics.
(I understand why as they've paid for the FX and don't have anything like the budget of a big US show, but still much as I like them the both need a rest)
The only thing I hope for with both of these series of characters is that they get rid of the "Skittles Daleks" and bring Cybermen back more inline with previous generations... instead of "delete" and "upgrade in progress" have them go more old school with their lines... Previously, the completely understood a human death and wished nothing more than to kill the Doctor.
(I understand why as they've paid for the FX and don't have anything like the budget of a big US show, but still much as I like them the both need a rest)
The only thing I hope for with both of these series of characters is that they get rid of the "Skittles Daleks" and bring Cybermen back more inline with previous generations... instead of "delete" and "upgrade in progress" have them go more old school with their lines... Previously, the completely understood a human death and wished nothing more than to kill the Doctor.
See, I think aesthetically the bronze NSD was the best incarnation by a long way, but then they followed it up with the horrible multiple-coloured blobs, which I hate with a passion. The storylines have also gone down in quality since Dalek and Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways.
Cybermen on the other hand, having not seen the classic episodes, I feel like Age of Steel/Rise of the Cybermen were my favourites so far. The last story with the Cybermen in, Nightmare in Silver, was some horrible atrocity which killed my interest in the new design, which is a shame, because it's a decent redesign from an aesthetic viewpoint.
My opinion on the subject is essentially "Go back to the beginning, or quit using them, you bastards!".
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(I understand why as they've paid for the FX and don't have anything like the budget of a big US show, but still much as I like them the both need a rest)
The only thing I hope for with both of these series of characters is that they get rid of the "Skittles Daleks" and bring Cybermen back more inline with previous generations... instead of "delete" and "upgrade in progress" have them go more old school with their lines... Previously, the completely understood a human death and wished nothing more than to kill the Doctor.
See, I think aesthetically the bronze NSD was the best incarnation by a long way, but then they followed it up with the horrible multiple-coloured blobs, which I hate with a passion. The storylines have also gone down in quality since Dalek and Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways.
Cybermen on the other hand, having not seen the classic episodes, I feel like Age of Steel/Rise of the Cybermen were my favourites so far. The last story with the Cybermen in, Nightmare in Silver, was some horrible atrocity which killed my interest in the new design, which is a shame, because it's a decent redesign from an aesthetic viewpoint.
My opinion on the subject is essentially "Go back to the beginning, or quit using them, you bastards!".
The strange thing is, since series 5, they've been going back to having the bronze Daleks- the ones in 'Asylum of the Daleks' were about 90% bronze ones with the new abominations (or the Teletubby Daleks as I call them). I agree that the bronze were the best ever, even ahead of the awesome gunmetal grey in Genesis of the Daleks.
Nightmare in Silver was just that, a nightmare, and so far, one of only 2 episodes in the last series I can't find to have any redeeming features. (The other is Rings of Akhaten, everything else had at least something good about it). I mean, the Cybermen are not Borg, they can't just adapt to any weapon instantly. The redesign was all right, but not as cool as the Rise of the Cybermen ones.
Apparently, they are going to try and explain his previous Dr Who appearance in the plot, which might work, but does make me slightly nervous. There's been too much wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey recently, and being convoluted for the sake of it, so I hope that goes away.
I lost interest a while ago. My problems with Dr Who, when I gave up on it, were never anything to do with the actor so I don't think a change of actor is going to fix it for me.
I would like to see a season about the life and times of John Hurt's Doctor.
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Nicorex wrote: I would like to see a season about the life and times of John Hurt's Doctor.
This would indeed be awesome. The brief shots of the Time War in Day of the Doctor prove they can make it look great, and a more grimdark iteration of Dr Who would fill the Torchwood gap nicely. It could even be a show with a different main cast in which The Doctor (and maybe even The Master and Rassilon) only show up occasionally, just more of the Time War would be great.
Even better, though, would be a proper series for Paul McGann, about the start of the Time War and how he runs from it. At some point he could even regenerate into John Hurt (as per Night of the Doctor) and go from there.
I imagine both Hurt and McGann would do it in a flash, but the BBC probably wouldn't get behind t.
Not a Dr. Who fan. I'm not throwing rocks at anyone who likes the show, but it's one of those aspects of geek culture I just can't seem to get into. I watched sporadic episodes as a child, and pretty much all the Eccleston episodes, but after that I've just kind of not been able to hang.
Don't enjoy rotating casts and rotating cast members.
Not really a big fan of British television.
Really dislike time travel stories in general.
So, three strikes, and I'm out. I mean, none of my opinions reflect on the show's objective quality (which, I suppose, must be positive, given the high degree of fan support it enjoys), it's just not my personal cup of tea.
Still, I might give it a shot if the Doctor regenerated as a woman. Or someone who wasn't white as the driven snow.
I'd think John Hurt & the time war provide a perfect opportunity for another film
lots and action/explosions/daleks etc
no need to any time travel complications etc as none of the previous incarnations knew about him I(maybe Paul McGan if the want to include him although I suspect regeneration would be a harder sell for a non-dr who fan audience)
no human companions (although he could have had and sacrificed them
the only tricky bit would be the timelords are loosing and that might make it a hard sell
Nicorex wrote: I would like to see a season about the life and times of John Hurt's Doctor.
This would indeed be awesome. The brief shots of the Time War in Day of the Doctor prove they can make it look great, and a more grimdark iteration of Dr Who would fill the Torchwood gap nicely. It could even be a show with a different main cast in which The Doctor (and maybe even The Master and Rassilon) only show up occasionally, just more of the Time War would be great.
Even better, though, would be a proper series for Paul McGann, about the start of the Time War and how he runs from it. At some point he could even regenerate into John Hurt (as per Night of the Doctor) and go from there.
I imagine both Hurt and McGann would do it in a flash, but the BBC probably wouldn't get behind t.
Someone give this man a job. A multiple season show with a fixed end point and number of seasons would be awesome, especially if it were essentially split in half, with Paul McGann taking the beginning, and John Hurt the end.
Of course, it's not going to happen, but damn, would that be awesome.
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So, three strikes, and I'm out. I mean, none of my opinions reflect on the show's objective quality (which, I suppose, must be positive, given the high degree of fan support it enjoys), it's just not my personal cup of tea.
Still, I might give it a shot if the Doctor regenerated as a woman. Or someone who wasn't white as the driven snow.
There are people out there who White Knight for DW as hard as some on this very forum white knight for GW
I also think it'd be awesome to have the Doctor regenerate as a woman, or some other minority (as it's in the canon that this can/does sometimes happen)
So, three strikes, and I'm out. I mean, none of my opinions reflect on the show's objective quality (which, I suppose, must be positive, given the high degree of fan support it enjoys), it's just not my personal cup of tea.
Still, I might give it a shot if the Doctor regenerated as a woman. Or someone who wasn't white as the driven snow.
There are people out there who White Knight for DW as hard as some on this very forum white knight for GW
I also think it'd be awesome to have the Doctor regenerate as a woman, or some other minority (as it's in the canon that this can/does sometimes happen)
Wait, women are a minority now?
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The debate has been done to death, but I really don't think the Doctor needs to be a woman or a minority unless the actor that is best for the role fits in those categories. If a black actor performs best at auditions then no one would have a problem with it, but going to the casting process with the idea that 'we're looking for a black actor' is the wrong way of going about it. Age/gender/race ect needn't come into it; the only criteria should be whether or not the actor/actress in question is good enough for the role.
Selecting an actor based on gender/race would actually devalue the casting, as it would be little more than a PC token gesture.
Paradigm wrote: The debate has been done to death, but I really don't think the Doctor needs to be a woman or a minority unless the actor that is best for the role fits in those categories. If a black actor performs best at auditions then no one would have a problem with it, but going to the casting process with the idea that 'we're looking for a black actor' is the wrong way of going about it. Age/gender/race ect needn't come into it; the only criteria should be whether or not the actor/actress in question is good enough for the role.
Selecting an actor based on gender/race would actually devalue the casting, as it would be little more than a PC token gesture.
I completely agree, but thus far, I don't think they've had an "open casting call" for the role of the Doctor... Also, I'm not entirely convinced that Moffat or Gatniss could write a female doctor.
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