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2015/02/17 03:31:48
Subject: Jupiter Ascending - Most Awesome Anime since Pacific Rim
Guardians was already mentioned or I definitely would have included it. I suppose Robocop and all of Verhoeven's other work would qualify, too. Riddick might, too, if you like 80's action movie dialog.
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@Bob - We never get to know who these draconic folks are nor what they want. They just sit there looking intimidating, being used as a stand in for David Icke's reptilians (there are a lot of campy shout-outs to UFO and conspiracy lore in the first quarter of the movie) and to lend Redmayne's character some devilish aura. One of them has a pretty intense fight scene vs Tatum later in the movie, though. That's about all the development we get. A waste of good character design, IMHO.
The movie's bad, but I just couldn't bring myself to hate it. It's not the Dune of our generation and doesn't pretend to be. Rather, it feels like a hybrid of The Fifth Element and The Chronicles of Riddick, and as such it has a certain charm of its own.
In some sense, it's as if the Wachowskis had deliberately avoided making their movie deep or epic or relevant. The problem is, "Jupiter Ascending" had all the elements required to aspire to greatness: Excellent production design, top-billed actors and some really good ideas. But they have chosen to take the building blocks of a genuinely epic Space Opera and used them to assemble a tongue-in-cheek refutation of the portal fantasy/cinderella story, conveniently spiked with high doses of pulp. Their movie could have ruled the galaxy, but it's content goofing around with dog-men in antigrav boots instead.
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2015/02/17 04:46:00
Subject: Jupiter Ascending - Most Awesome Anime since Pacific Rim
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Guardians was already mentioned or I definitely would have included it. I suppose Robocop and all of Verhoeven's other work would qualify, too. Riddick might, too, if you like 80's action movie dialog.
Pitch Black had some pretty solid dialogue as well.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Guardians was already mentioned or I definitely would have included it. I suppose Robocop and all of Verhoeven's other work would qualify, too. Riddick might, too, if you like 80's action movie dialog.
Pitch Black had some pretty solid dialogue as well.
I really need to see that movie one of these days.
Can you name me 3 action oriented sci fi movies with great dialouge, and not just a few cool one liners ?
Guardians of the Galaxy. Has great dialogue, is action oriented and has several cool one liners, should start off the list.
That is exactly how far I got in my head when I asked the question, which is why I asked for 3.
With SciFi it's almost become as if between action, special effects, and great dialouge, you are forced to pick 2 to get a movie made.
Probably doesn't meet your "action oriented" film... but Blade Runner. It has action that works, special effects that even after all this time are still worthy of repeat viewing, and dialogue out the wazoo
2015/02/17 17:00:47
Subject: Jupiter Ascending - Most Awesome Anime since Pacific Rim
Serenity - Really enjoyed it, but I honestly think you only get a lot out of this movie if you were already a Firefly Fan
5th Element - Love this movie, even though it has plot holes you can drive a monster truck through.
Stargate - No. The series was great, but the movie not so much.
Edge of Tomorrow - I knew I would love this move before seeing it, because Tom Cruise dies over, and over, and over, and over,. The ending is weak.
Aliens - I remember it being awesome as a kid. I don't think anyone has ever accused it of being well written or having great dialouge.
Guardians of The Galaxy - Great movie all around, but I still think of it as a super hero movie first, just in space.
Blade Runner - Good movie. Don't watch the extended version. I have yet to watch the extended version without falling asleep. Sometimes longer isn't better.
This list still kind of makes my point. That's like 6 movies over 30 years, and really, I don't think people will be talking about Live, Die, Repeat a year from now.
Funny thought, Space Balls has excellent dialouge and an incredible replay value.
adamsouza wrote: Serenity - Really enjoyed it, but I honestly think you only get a lot out of this movie if you were already a Firefly Fan
5th Element - Love this movie, even though it has plot holes you can drive a monster truck through.
Stargate - No. The series was great, but the movie not so much.
Edge of Tomorrow - I knew I would love this move before seeing it, because Tom Cruise dies over, and over, and over, and over,. The ending is weak.
Aliens - I remember it being awesome as a kid. I don't think anyone has ever accused it of being well written or having great dialouge.
Guardians of The Galaxy - Great movie all around, but I still think of it as a super hero movie first, just in space.
Blade Runner - Good movie. Don't watch the extended version. I have yet to watch the extended version without falling asleep. Sometimes longer isn't better.
This list still kind of makes my point. That's like 6 movies over 30 years, and really, I don't think people will be talking about Live, Die, Repeat a year from now.
Funny thought, Space Balls has excellent dialouge and an incredible replay value.
Serentiy--I saw it twice before a single episode of Firefly, but I like Whedon's style of dialog from Buffy
5th Element--Agreed. Like Independence Day, it's just too fun a movie to worry about the plot making sense.
Stargate--The series was indeed great, but the movie was a lot of fun and has some memorable bits of dialog that are not one-liners. Most of it may not have been English. "Pwah! Pwah!" "Bani wei!" Pretty much all of Ra's subtitles. I suppose it depends heavily on what your personal interpretation of "good dialog" is.
Edge of Live Die Repeat Tomorrow--Bill Paxton.
Aliens--You're kidding, right? I hear people quote nearly every line from this film regularly. It's mostly changed the way we talk about games being over. Mostly. That has to count as dialog since the characters don't just talk to each other in one-liners, like in Ghostbusters or Predator.
Guardians--It's big budget sci fi set in space. I guess you could call Star Wars a fantasy movie set in space, too, but it comes across like an artificial distinction.
Blade Runner--I saw the wrong version, I guess, because I have no idea how this movie is beloved by so many.
I think people will talk about Live Die Repeat the same way they talk about Groundhog Day, as a joke they make when someone does something repetitive. A lot of the people who want a Mako Mori test will probably be talking about Emily Blunt's role for years.
EDIT: I loved Spaceballs as a kid, but when I tried to watch it again as an adult, it just did not age well. Like Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the fans ruined it by quoting the best parts to humor-death and overplaying the crappy parts until one is incapable of looking past them. Like MP and Firefly Spaceballs was ruined by time and fandom, mostly fandom.
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: Guardians was already mentioned or I definitely would have included it. I suppose Robocop and all of Verhoeven's other work would qualify, too. Riddick might, too, if you like 80's action movie dialog.
Pitch Black had some pretty solid dialogue as well.
When I saw Pitch Black with some friends we started matching characters up with the ones from Gilligan's Island and created dialouge along that line as the movie progressed.
Loved the movie, though. It was just out of some perversity that Gilligan's Island sprang to our minds.
2015/02/18 04:41:44
Subject: Jupiter Ascending - Most Awesome Anime since Pacific Rim
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I loved Spaceballs as a kid, but when I tried to watch it again as an adult, it just did not age well. Like Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the fans ruined it by quoting the best parts to humor-death and overplaying the crappy parts until one is incapable of looking past them. Like MP and Firefly Spaceballs was ruined by time and fandom, mostly fandom.
I think the larger issue is that most of the denizens of this forum could have come up with most of the jokes in Sapceballs if they were given the film's basic premise, and the ones that they couldn't were very heavily forced. It is definitely not Brook's best work.
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2015/02/18 12:00:07
Subject: Re:Jupiter Ascending - Most Awesome Anime since Pacific Rim
The Waskowskis' (sp?) are capable of brilliance. The first Matrix film is still worth a watch today, but for me their greatest moment is 'Bound'. Which seems to have slipped through the cracks somewhat. A great thriller with a great cast and a cracking, fast paced script. Good stuff..
I wanted to watch 'Jupiter Ascending' on valentines day, but guess what I had to watch instead..
