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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/18 17:43:13
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Fixture of Dakka
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azazel70820 wrote:SM FAQ question. Can you join ICs to the 1st turn assualt Skyforce Formation?
While I am not the TO, my answer here would be a No and this is why:
1. The IC does not have the special rule. Thus, he slows down the unit. Just like an IC with terminator armor in a unit prevents that unit from making sweeping advances.
2. It is the more conservative ruling, thus making an already very powerful rule/combo (don't forget, no Overwatch!) not brokenly powerful, like taking a 5-man Assault squad and putting 5 IC's in there to make a massive multi-assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/18 18:44:09
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Best of luck, everyone! Stay dry!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/06/18 18:44:18
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/19 04:00:49
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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jy2 wrote:azazel70820 wrote:SM FAQ question. Can you join ICs to the 1st turn assualt Skyforce Formation?
While I am not the TO, my answer here would be a No and this is why:
1. The IC does not have the special rule. Thus, he slows down the unit. Just like an IC with terminator armor in a unit prevents that unit from making sweeping advances.
2. It is the more conservative ruling, thus making an already very powerful rule/combo (don't forget, no Overwatch!) not brokenly powerful, like taking a 5-man Assault squad and putting 5 IC's in there to make a massive multi-assault.
Reece ruled on this in the BAO thread. The answer is no.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/19 07:58:41
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
Little Rock, Arkansas
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Do we know about iron hands non-dreadnought vehicles and whether they get IWND?
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20000+ points
Tournament reports:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/19 12:21:14
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Dakka Veteran
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Good luck to everyone playing!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/19 14:04:23
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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niv-mizzet wrote:Do we know about iron hands non-dreadnought vehicles and whether they get IWND?
The codex is pretty clear. Vehicles don't have Chapter Tactics.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/19 14:30:57
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
Little Rock, Arkansas
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The rulebook is very clear about unbound and rerollable 2+ saves being allowed. TO's and the rulebooks sometimes disagree.
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20000+ points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/19 15:06:50
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Awesome Autarch
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No ICs with the Skyhammer Formation for Wargames Con.
We'll see you all here! Day 1 is already on and going.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/20 22:03:29
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Updates?
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nWo blackshirts GT Team Member
http://inthenameofsangunius.blogspot.com/?m=1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 02:01:08
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Powerful Ushbati
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Who be winning??? Also is there a link for any live stream at the event?
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 13:38:34
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
Little Rock, Arkansas
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I'm up 3-0 with my battle company ATM. I saw some knights up in the top tables with me. I haven't had much time to scout after games started.
There's a 10 year old girl competing as well. That in itself is awesome. Friend said she was playing chaos marines I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 14:48:04
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Powerful Ushbati
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niv-mizzet wrote:I'm up 3-0 with my battle company ATM. I saw some knights up in the top tables with me. I haven't had much time to scout after games started.
There's a 10 year old girl competing as well. That in itself is awesome. Friend said she was playing chaos marines I think.
Thanks for the update and best of luck to you.
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 16:19:33
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Awesome Autarch
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 16:21:10
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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That's not what the internet said was supposed to happen. It was supposed to be all Eldar all the time.  they're so OP they are supposed to beat everything else so easily that the game was just plain broken.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 16:38:32
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Awesome Autarch
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Well, to be fair, they are beating up on folks pretty badly and if you count the Dark Eldar with Eldar, they are the most represented army in the undefeted bracket. But, a lot of the most skilled players here are opting to do something different on purpose to prove a point.
Make no mistake, Eldar have the most pure power in the game without a doubt, but, they are not unbeatable. They have quite a vulnerability to reserve units such as pods or outflankers that can pack a big punch. Head to head though, even Crons just melt to them. You have to have a trick up your sleeve to deal with them.
All 3 Deldar players drew tough matches, though, so we'll see how many make it through to round 5.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 17:58:01
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Powerful Ushbati
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OverwatchCNC wrote:
That's not what the internet said was supposed to happen. It was supposed to be all Eldar all the time.  they're so OP they are supposed to beat everything else so easily that the game was just plain broken.
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That is actually pretty on point. Eldar and now Space marines are the top two armies IMO. Dont forget that this is an ITC event so eldar are actually toned down and still doing well.
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 19:28:37
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Awesome Autarch
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Yeah, we limit the number of Wraithknights, which is the big thing. Plus, D weapons get toned down a bit, too. All the Deldar players got knocked out in very close games, last round. Super close games.
Finals is:
1st: Darkwyn: Scouts, Grav Cents and a Culexus
2nd: Pajama Pants with Orks and Daemons
3rd: Ben Mohlie with a Necron Deathstar
4th: Mike McKinney with a Min/Maxed Battle Company, Culexus and some Blood Angels
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 20:39:45
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Go Big Ben !!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 21:28:49
Subject: Re:Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Are Ben Mohlie and Ben Cromwell the same person?
And if not are their necron deathstars essentially the same loadout? (orikan + wraiths + solar staff)?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 21:41:34
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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What Necron Deathstar is Ben running? Is it my fave Orikanstar?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 22:12:12
Subject: Re:Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What is in the pj pants ork/demon list? Sounds interesting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 22:25:27
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Powerful Ushbati
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Can someone post what list the top 2 or 3 players had? Its crazy that the new space marines formation took 4th.
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 22:25:42
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sounds like this tourney was super rocking !!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 23:18:24
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
Little Rock, Arkansas
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Requizen wrote:What Necron Deathstar is Ben running? Is it my fave Orikanstar?
He had rec legion with lyches and zandrekh, destroyer cult, canoptek harvest, and then allied Orikan + immortals, so yeah Orikan. He ended up beating me in the finals mainly by going 2nd. He was pretty flabbergasted at how many units he had to kill from my army though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 23:39:52
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Fixture of Dakka
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 00:49:21
Subject: Re:Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Regular Dakkanaut
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No chance in getting lists for the top 4 is there?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 03:41:54
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Awesome Autarch
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Great event! We had a blast, it ran smooth, everyone was enjoying themselves. Couldn't ask for too much more.
Congratz to Pajama Pants for for winning tournament champion, beating Darkwynn in the finals, and to Space Curves for beating niv-mizzet to win Renaissance Man.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 12:10:29
Subject: Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Been Around the Block
Britian
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Could we get a peek at the lists?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 13:47:06
Subject: Re:Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Speed Drybrushing
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Who or what are pajama pants?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 13:53:24
Subject: Re:Wargames Con, June 19-21, Austin, TX
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Alan Bajmoravic(sp?) He's a really great player from Chicago. He has won many GTs and placed high in many others. His nickname is pajama pants.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
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