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I'm quite easygoing about movies, and I even enjoy a good special effects fest, but Michael Bay needs to be stopped! 10 years ago Micheal Bay and explosions was kind of a joke, but now he has become like a sick parody of himself. There was a scene in TMNT where a truck is sliding down a ski-slope or something, and there is about a thousand special effects per second. Turtles are sliding, bullets are flying, cars are flipping, there is some kind of electric tow cable taser, a rocket powered skateboard, snow and gak flying in all directions, an avalanche... Eventually, there was so much going on, my brain just started to tune it out. It was like watching 10 minutes of white noise... boring, tedious, the complete opposite of what it was supposed to be.
I think that's the saddest thing about Micheal Bay. He doesn't even do special effects well. I watched Dan Gilroy's Nightcrawler recently, and that film was incredible. It only had one or two special effects (about enough to fill half a second of a Micheal bay movie), but that's what made them special. When something does happen it's absolutely jaw dropping. That's what special effects aught to be, not: "hold the story for 10 minutes, while we show you so many explosions you can't tell what's happing anymore".
There have been a lot of films like that recently. Avengers 2 was just FX overload. The Hobbit, the battle of the 5 million hours of battle... I think there is a good half hour in that movie without any dialogue at all. Is it really just cheaper now to hire a whole special effects studio, than it is to hire one decent writer?
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2015/12/11 04:54:01
Subject: TMNT2 (Michael Bay): How on earth did this get a 2nd movie?!
Orlanth wrote: If Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was your childhood, it was likely long destroyed.
Star Wars trilogy at release, Indiana Jones, FASA games, old GW, Duran Duran, Adam Ant, electropop, 70's Punk, 80's hair, playing outside all day alone and unescorted prior to the paedo scare.
That was a childhood.
d-usa wrote: I think Michael Bay actually did a pretty good job with the Turtles, but that is partly because the Turtles are already more suited for his style of movies.
Yeah, I was thinking about this.
First off, I loved the Ninja Rap. I even loved the TMNT musical they did...
Turtles is about silliness and fun to me, so even though I didn't particularly enjoy Bay's first film (I have since thought about, what if Karen Gillan was playing April? - She can do a combination of comedy and action why happily.), it at least *felt* Turtles-ish to me. And, so does this one. "Press the button!" "What button? There's millions of buttons!"
A lot of that sort of thing, could have been in the cartoon, or the original films.
Bayformers? No, just no... I was pondering this last night and came to the conclusion that Transformers, for me at a young age was a really important thing, even going so far as to influencing the person I grew up to become. Optimus, Rodimus Prime. The more I think about it, the more I think they genuinely were role models for a young me. Optimus for his leadership and heroism, Rodimus because he basically was a screw up, he didn't want the responsibility, but still did what had to be done anyway when he could have just run away.
That sort of stuff was important to a mini-me. And the Bayformers films had none of that.
I don't like the brutishness of the turtles though. These guys are Teenage Mutant Brute Turtles. I am not a fan of the raw power and durability of these turtles (especially the bullet proof aspect). Which I suppose is why they gave Shredder the power armour in the first one. When your opponent is bullet proof and capable of throwing 2.5 ton shipping containers about even the most skilled human is in trouble.
d-usa wrote: The old movies had the great special effects!
...........Argh...run!!!!
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
That wasn't what sprang to my mind, AegisGrimm.
Be warned- if you have never seen Kung Pow!, then what will be seen cannot be unseen.
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Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
Gwar- "And everyone wants a bigger Spleen!"
Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.
I wonder if the inner mouth has another teeny little mouth inside it.
"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
I watched the Rifftrax version of TMNT and still wanted my money back. It was insulting to adults, teens, and children; forget being a turtles movie it was just a bad movie all around.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
1st remake not amazing but I liked it enough. Its not my childhood TMNT but it needs to be something different to keep up with super hero movies these days. Old Turtles don't cut it with the young'ns and that is cool because things change.
This new one does look better than the last one. It should be pretty fun.
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