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Don't forget the knife attack on a train in Germany, and the stabbing on the beach in France. And the Belguim airport bomb...and the attempted attacks on RAF personel...

Enough is enough.

The one way to stop violence between humans would be to kill every last human on the planet who doesn't agree with you.

 jhe90 wrote:

 Rainbow Dash wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
He has one point

This problem is not going away.
The attacks are increasing.

We are on a frontline and they do not care who they kill.

Ignoring it is not a option.

Thank you.

We have 3 terror attacks in west on page one of this Su forum
Nearly 100 dead in what 2 weeks....

That's a problem

Yeah and no one wants to talk about the root of that, I bring it up and I am a racist and pushing a hateful agenda.
You don't fight terrorism by being nice.
You can't be PC about this, that time is gone, that failed.

you will have to excuse Ouze, hes not a Trump supporter or whatever and realizes with the increase of such attacks it will help to get Trump elected.

Asterios wrote:
you will have to excuse Ouze, hes not a Trump supporter or whatever and realizes with the increase of such attacks it will help to get Trump elected.

I doubt that dude...

I'd argue that Clinton is much more of a hawk that Trump will ever be...

 Rainbow Dash wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 Rainbow Dash wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
He has one point

This problem is not going away.
The attacks are increasing.

We are on a frontline and they do not care who they kill.

Ignoring it is not a option.

Thank you.

We have 3 terror attacks in west on page one of this Su forum
Nearly 100 dead in what 2 weeks....

That's a problem

Yeah and no one wants to talk about the root of that, I bring it up and I am a racist and pushing a hateful agenda.
You don't fight terrorism by being nice.
You can't be PC about this, that time is gone, that failed.

It's not about being PC or not. How about waiting to get the facts about who he was and what his motives were before spouting off? I know, that might seem unreasonable, but once upon a time we didn't reach for our guns before we asked, "hey, what's the problem?" despite what those liberals in Hollywood would have you believe.

It might be Islamic in nature, it might not. The thing thats making me think it isn't was the fact that the shooter killed himself, instead of waiting for the cops to do it. Suicide for the sake of it is forbidden, even in extremist views. Apparently they view suicide bombings differently than shooting yourself in the head, because the first is still an act of righteousness.

And the fact that he used a handgun?

If I am wrong I will sincerely apologize.

 whembly wrote:

Asterios wrote:
you will have to excuse Ouze, hes not a Trump supporter or whatever and realizes with the increase of such attacks it will help to get Trump elected.

I doubt that dude...

I'd argue that Clinton is much more of a hawk that Trump will ever be...

problem is these attacks are spreading fear and hate of Islamics because of Islamic extremists, and while Hillary wants to let more refugees in which may or may not have Islamic extremists mixed in with them, Tump wants to stop all immigration from countries known to be terrorist breeding grounds and such.

Fear and hate will put Trump in office, not Hillary she is seen as too soft and running her party line.

Asterios wrote:
you will have to excuse Ouze, hes not a Trump supporter or whatever and realizes with the increase of such attacks it will help to get Trump elected.

Lol no, the average voter doesn't give a gak about attacks that happen overseas. I'd be surprised if the average voter could even find Germany on a map if it wasn't labelled. The impact on US elections is pretty much nonexistent in my opinion.


Anyways this isn't really a topic about Trump or the US elections

 Ouze wrote:

Asterios wrote:
you will have to excuse Ouze, hes not a Trump supporter or whatever and realizes with the increase of such attacks it will help to get Trump elected.

Lol no, the average voter doesn't give a gak about attacks that happen overseas. I'd be surprised if the average voter could even find Germany on a map if it wasn't labelled. The impact on US elections is pretty much nonexistent in my opinion.


Anyways this isn't really a topic about Trump or the US elections

look to history and say that. not too mention in todays media centric society things that happen in other places are known and felt here now more so then ever in our countries history.

How are we being nice to terrorists again? Expand on that and what should be done please.

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
If I am wrong I will sincerely apologize.

Nobody needs an apology, they just don't need Internet warriors jumping to declare anti Jihad immediately anytime something bad happens. It helps nothing. The ISIS or Isis inclined people take it as a sign they are right, that they have to kill in order to live. The hard left looks at it above the fray from their bespectacled noses and says "humph". The rest of the people, the vast masses, look at it and say that's horrible, how can I help? Wait they don't really do that. They Watch CNN or fox or whatever and shake their heads and go on with their lives.

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
And the fact that he used a handgun?

Nah, that's not evidence alone. He used what he had access to. If he had grenades and an AK, sure, he would have used that. But he would charge those people with a sharpened stick if it was his only option and he was sufficiently motivated.

 Ouze wrote:

Lol no, the average voter doesn't give a gak about attacks that happen overseas. I'd be surprised if the average voter could even find Germany on a map if it wasn't labelled. The impact on US elections is pretty much nonexistent in my opinion.

This is very telling.

A lot of the time when these things happen, people like you come out of the woodwork not to express sorrow or grief at the murders, but rather instead to simply complain about all the bigotry these things inspire. You're angier at Trump, Farrage, Wilders, Powel etc. for being proven correct, rather than at the killer(s). People like you are always angier at people being angry over the atrocities rather than the atrocities themselves.

Tell us, should the average voter just learn to live with terrorism, as the French Prime Minister Manuel Valls suggested, because allowing people to be killed on mass in public is a small price to pay to keep things all happy clappy and pc?

 Future War Cultist wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

Lol no, the average voter doesn't give a gak about attacks that happen overseas. I'd be surprised if the average voter could even find Germany on a map if it wasn't labelled. The impact on US elections is pretty much nonexistent in my opinion.

This is very telling.

A lot of the time when these things happen, people like you come out of the woodwork not to express sorrow or grief at the murders, but rather instead to simply complain about all the bigotry these things inspire. People like you are always angier at people being angry over the atrocities rather than the atrocities themselves.

Tell us, should the average voter just learn to live with terrorism, as the French Prime Minister Manuel Valls suggested, because allowing people to be killed on mass in public is a small price to pay to keep things all happy clappy and pc?

How do we solve this then?

You may also want to note that the anger Ouze is expressing isn't towards people being upset about the acts, but rather about people going after Muslims despite the fact that we don't even know why this happened yet.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

Lol no, the average voter doesn't give a gak about attacks that happen overseas. I'd be surprised if the average voter could even find Germany on a map if it wasn't labelled. The impact on US elections is pretty much nonexistent in my opinion.

This is very telling.

A lot of the time when these things happen, people like you come out of the woodwork not to express sorrow or grief at the murders, but rather instead to simply complain about all the bigotry these things inspire. People like you are always angier at people being angry over the atrocities rather than the atrocities themselves.

Tell us, should the average voter just learn to live with terrorism, as the French Prime Minister Manuel Valls suggested, because allowing people to be killed on mass in public is a small price to pay to keep things all happy clappy and pc?

How do we solve this then?

You may also want to note that the anger Ouze is expressing isn't towards people being upset about the acts, but rather about people going after Muslims despite the fact that we don't even know why this happened yet.

well no matter how you look at it, it is terrorism, whether its Islamic extremists or not is unknown at this time.

@ AlmightyWalrus

I would love to tell you how we stop this, but in this day and age and in my country, it would be a crime to do so. And that right there is why we are losing the battle.

F.Y.I, the gunman was Iranian born.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36873180

 Future War Cultist wrote:
@ AlmightyWalrus

I would love to tell you how we stop this, but in this day and age and in my country, it would be a crime to do so. And that right there is why we are losing the battle.

Let me guess: either "glass the Middle East" or "get rid of Islam completely" or a combination of the two?

@ AlmightyWalrus

Why don't you tell us what you'd do first?

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
@ AlmightyWalrus

I would love to tell you how we stop this, but in this day and age and in my country, it would be a crime to do so. And that right there is why we are losing the battle.

Let me guess: either "glass the Middle East" or "get rid of Islam completely" or a combination of the two?

neither is an option, but how does one remove the normal peaceful Muslims from the radical extremists Muslims? its not like they wear signs or something?

 Future War Cultist wrote:
@ AlmightyWalrus

Why don't you tell us what you'd do first?

How about waiting to figure out who was responsible first, be it anti immigration skinhead neo nazis or Islamic terrorists, then make a binding decision here on the dakka forums?

 Gordon Shumway wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
@ AlmightyWalrus

Why don't you tell us what you'd do first?

How about waiting to figure out who was responsible first, be it anti immigration skinhead neo nazis or Islamic terrorists, then make a binding decision here on the dakka forums?

well if what the other link says is true and the shooter is Iranian born think we can rule out skinhead neo-nazis.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
A lot of the time when these things happen, people like you come out of the woodwork

With 17,000 posts, I didn't think I was hiding in the woodwork.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
You may also want to note that the anger Ouze is expressing isn't towards people being upset about the acts, but rather about people going after Muslims despite the fact that we don't even know why this happened yet.

I'm not mad at all, really. Just expressing my disappointment with how quick someone was to milk a tragedy for their own agenda before the blood was dry, let alone before we know what happened for sure and why it happened.

 SickSix wrote:
I am sure it has nothing to do with radical Islam or Germany letting in a million 'refugees' no questions asked.

It was probably just a workplace violence incident.

And obviously reports of it being a shooting are greatly exaggerated as guns a banned in Germany.

You're not adding anything to the conversation. It's easy to be snarky and snide, but it's worthless in contributing. If you don't like what Deutschland is doing, take it up with Frau Merkel.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
@ AlmightyWalrus

Why don't you tell us what you'd do first?

Sure. Keep up pressure on ISIS, they're losing ground every day and have been for months now. Start working towards undermining Saudi Arabia's influence in the Middle East. Stop randomly bombing countries in the Middle East (do note that ISIS isn't what I'd consider a random bombing campaign, I'm talking stuff like Iraq and Libya). Support the living hell out of democracy in Tunisia to make sure the one democracy to emerge from the Arab Spring doesn't falter.

Ultimately, though, this situation isn't going to go away until socioeconomic conditions and education levels in the Middle East and the Indo-Iranian region improves. Break the monopoly on interpreting the Quran that religious leaders have (and they are interpretations) through teaching critical thinking and improving literacy rates.

Your turn.

 Ouze wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
A lot of the time when these things happen, people like you come out of the woodwork

With 17,000 posts, I didn't think I was hiding in the woodwork.

you Termite, you.

 Ouze wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
A lot of the time when these things happen, people like you come out of the woodwork

With 17,000 posts, I didn't think I was hiding in the woodwork.

Why don't you stop deflecting and answer the question?

@ Gordon Shumway

I noticed you said anti immigration skin head neo nazi first. Very telling.

Is someone with German-Iranian nationality (and according to the pictures taken, a full head of hair) likely to be an anti immigration skin head neo nazi?

Asterios wrote:

 Gordon Shumway wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
@ AlmightyWalrus

Why don't you tell us what you'd do first?

How about waiting to figure out who was responsible first, be it anti immigration skinhead neo nazis or Islamic terrorists, then make a binding decision here on the dakka forums?

well if what the other link says is true and the shooter is Iranian born think we can rule out skinhead neo-nazis.

erm... I've actually seen a few Iranian skinheads...

So, it's not that outrageous.