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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/08 01:03:01
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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agnosto wrote:To be clear, at what level is Jake Thornton involved in this project? I certainly won't back this, though it certainly looks like something I might like, if he has anything to do with the rules. His rules-writing is terrible in my opinion, based on my experiences with his work for Mantic; he's already ruined two potentially good games for me (Deadzone and Dungeon Siege) with his terrible writing and combative personality.
Personally, I think Ronnie shares a good deal of the blame. ( IMO, Mantic declined ever since they used KS, even for projects not involving JT.) Certainly I haven't found any terrible reviews of his original pre- KS Dwarf King's Hold, the game Dungeon Saga was based upon. But, anyway, JT isn't part of the MB rules, since MB is a reimplementation of the MB edition from 2012, and the rules were developed before JT joined up. He will be assisting with the English rules translation, though. He's writing the MB updates, so you can get an idea of his writing style. fwiw, He's also written a Greek wargame called Tribes of Legend, so you can look up reviews of this obscure book. (He's also an archaeologist, btw!).
BGG: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1664875/jake-thornton-assist-english-rulebook
Tribes: http://thefrontlinegamer.blogspot.com/2012/03/review-tribes-of-legend.html
Dwarf: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/93895/dwarf-kings-hold-dead-rising
Original MB: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/125996/mythic-battles
3K until the doggie's unlocked. Meanwhile...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/08 08:32:50
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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TalonZahn wrote:I would love to see some Conan - Pantheon crossover stuff.
Maps, creatures, no Gods.
I am not sure they can do something like that, Conan is a licensed IP and the IP holder has saying in what can and cannot happen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/08 11:23:59
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Fixture of Dakka
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PsychoticStorm wrote: TalonZahn wrote:I would love to see some Conan - Pantheon crossover stuff.
Maps, creatures, no Gods.
I am not sure they can do something like that, Conan is a licensed IP and the IP holder has saying in what can and cannot happen.
They have said there will be an add-on to use MB stuff in Conan at some point. I had to drop my pledge so I'm not following it any more but it will be available at some point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/08 15:27:32
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I know they added a Skeletons card for Conan already.
Stuff like that is more than enough to make me happy. Just some creature cards from Pantheon to add more creatures to Conan.
Not to interested in seeing Conan fight Zeus, but if I can integrate the maps and mobs, I'm good to go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/08 18:30:23
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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PsychoticStorm wrote:
I am not sure they can do something like that, Conan is a licensed IP and the IP holder has saying in what can and cannot happen.
Conan (books) have been Public Domain since 2006, 70 years after Howard died in 1936. As long as the game sticks to the books, rather than Frazetta or the movies, they have largely unlimited rein to do whatever they like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/08 18:58:43
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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the problem is going to be that so many other people have written (licenced) Conan stuff in the interim that it's all to easy for the estate to claim that the new stuff is based on that
easier to run things by the estate than risk lawyers even if you think you're in the clear (sigh)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/08 22:44:02
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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I am 90% sure the Conan game is produced under license with Paradox Entertainment, which owns the rights to the Conan character as part of their trademarked IP. Or at least, claims to own.
Whether Paradox's claims would hold up in court against a committed opponent with Chapterhouse style expert pro bono support... is a question unlikely to ever be answered, because they would much rather do licenses than sue people. But yeah, they probably do exert some control over what Monolith does with "their" IP.
The question of the copyrights on the stories is a bit more complex than "public domain", as some of them weren't published till well after Howard's death.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/08 22:58:45
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I guess it depends entirely on just how cheap the Paradox license is as a convenant not to sue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/08 23:49:08
Subject: Re:Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Yep! Hopefully, Monolith still has a good working relationship with Conan Properties International LLC with Pantheon like they did with Conan.
From the Conan KS page: "© 2015 Conan Properties International LLC. Conan, Conan the barbarian, Hyboria, and related logos, characters, names and distinctive likenesses are trademarks or registered trademarks of Conan Properties International LLC unless otherwise noted. All rights reserved. Robert E. Howard is a trademark or registered trademark of Robert E. Howard properties, used with permission. All rights reserved. Conan - Miniatures Boardgame © 2015 - Monolith Board Games"
Guys with fused horns unlocked!
ycl : eyes :: ecr : snake bodies
Also, another attempt at your wallet:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/09 01:08:17
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Fixture of Dakka
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Man Oedipus and Sphynx are a definite buy for me, and really the game in general is getting impossible to pass up. Damnit... I am going to have to apply for more grant money :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/09 02:31:37
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I want them to do a colossal sized Hecatoncheries
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/10 02:00:06
Subject: Re:Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Sample scenario from the Hephaestus (sp) expansion: https://www.dropbox.com/s/87yfio0v3xyodzn/Hephaestus%20scenario%201%20ENG.pdf?dl=0
Reminds me too much of what I have to do with my golden retriever on a daily basis, though.
Next up... Paolo Parente on a tame day!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/11 03:22:01
Subject: Re:Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/11 13:05:29
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The Poseidon expansion looks outstanding.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/11 17:09:36
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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This is so cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/11 17:23:54
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So much great stuff coming out of this.
It's going to cost me for sure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/11 21:25:18
Subject: Re:Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Marsyas unlocked!
Here comes Pan!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/12 04:11:49
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Since I missed the Conan KS, how did they run the add-ons?
I'm guessing I can go in for $100 now and add on all the stuff through the Pledge Manager right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/12 13:05:58
Subject: Re:Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yes, you can add funds for add-ons, etc. in the pledge manager. It is my understanding that even $1 pledges get access to the pledge manager on this project (I had previously asked this in the comments because with Christmas coming....not much extra money, lol).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/12 18:58:32
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If that's the case, then maybe I throw a buck in after all. With Kingdom Death coming, being able to wait would be a big help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/12 22:48:48
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I messaged them, just in case, to find out for sure.
I'm planning to get everything and more, but the timing might be off for the "more" part by a week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/13 16:52:49
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Regular Dakkanaut
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This game looks like a lot of fun. I am, however, worried about long-term replayability with it. Did I miss a campaign system somewhere or a different PVP mode than drafting?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/13 17:17:29
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Martial Arts SAS
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I doubt it will happen but I'd love to see a crossover with Arena Rex. Most of the big monsters would make great... well.. monsters for the arena, and some of the AR gladiators would make for good heroes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/13 18:22:16
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Fixture of Dakka
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jSewell wrote:This game looks like a lot of fun. I am, however, worried about long-term replayability with it. Did I miss a campaign system somewhere or a different PVP mode than drafting?
From what I have seen there are the skirmish games (draft, etc) and the campaign/scenario games. Campaign games seem to be tied together in a story line, where winning a game will give you a small bonus in the next. I think the scenarios are either part of the campaigns (a series of scenarios) or stand alone scenarios that have specific rules and set ups.
They linked a download for the Hephaestus scenario, which is apparently #2 in that campaign. Each player has specific armies picked for them (which include combos of models not normally available) and there are special victory conditions. Then whoever wins gets to deploy more of their army off the bat in the next scenario.
It is a little weird to have to draft for all your models... I wonder if it works if you just allow multiples of units/critters across players. I have more than enough random models to count as specific things in the game, so the only thing I would need is a copy of the dashboard, which is doable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/13 20:14:13
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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jSewell wrote:I am, however, worried about long-term replayability with it.
Did I miss a campaign system somewhere
or a different PVP mode than drafting?
If you get the KS edition, the combinations will give a lot of replay. So many Gods and followers to choose from.
I don't think there's been a campaign system announced.
It's a points game, so one could do army lists.if not for the uniques. A lot of games seem to be using drafting as their balance mechanic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/13 20:43:02
Subject: Re:Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Iv never even touched the Conan figs, I've seen a few comparisons, but what scale are they good with? Do the do well with zombicide figs? Or are they considerably larger?
Thanks?
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/13 21:51:04
Subject: Re:Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Good question. They're the same scale, although the Conan bases are a little thicker. Won't notice during play, I'd say.
Divinity pack unlocked!
3D add-on available. Free crows with every other creepy tree! Blue oompaloompas!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/13 23:56:41
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Have they confirmed the "Pledge $1 now for access to PM later" yet?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/14 00:07:58
Subject: Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Alpharius wrote:Have they confirmed the "Pledge $1 now for access to PM later" yet?
Multiple inquiring minds want to know.
And thanks Ced
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/14 01:11:13
Subject: Re:Kickstarter- Mythic Battles- Pantheon
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I dug through the KS comments to see what Quickworthy may have posted on the subject of $1 pledges, and so far I have found this from November 11th (comment abbreviated to remove answers to other questions):
@Chiky Scares You - any pledge will get you a pledge manager when the time comes. Of course, the more you pledge now, the more free stuff gets added to everyone's pledge... Voice of Olympus
So it does say ANY pledge, which is what other backers expressed to me when I had asked a week or so ago. It would be nice if Monolith/QW added some FAQ to the front page, including a verified answer to the $1 question.
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