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2018/11/04 02:09:15
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
They managed not to kill anyone this week finally! Not even a maiming or crippling! Maybe some psychological trauma when Robin beat up an innocent dude in front of his kid, but he felt bad about it afterwards, and Starfire paid the dude off so I’m sure it’s ok.
2018/12/21 16:59:15
Subject: Re:DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2018/12/21 17:21:25
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
I just signed up for the service! Bought the year for $60, since I'm definitely going to hang on at least until the Swamp Thing season is over. And at that point I'd probably be in for about $45 anyway.
And we'll be using it for all the comics. I'm going to introduce my oldest to the classic Wolfman-Perez Titans series.
It will be interesting to see how Doom Patrol compares to Netflix's Umbrella Academy.
Well, the comics that are actually there. They've got really limited runs (just a year or two usually) of a shockingly small selection of titles. For big titles they've got a couple different eras, but if you want to follow a storyline or a specific series for a while, you're out of luck. Some just aren't there full stop.
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2018/12/21 18:29:46
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
Voss wrote: Well, the comics that are actually there. They've got really limited runs (just a year or two usually) of a shocking small selection of titles. For big titles they've got a couple different eras, but if you want to follow a storyline or a specific series for a while, you're out of luck. Some just aren't there full stop.
Yeah, I know it's a curated selection. I think it's fine though...we'll mostly be browsing instead of looking for particular items. The first 12 issues or so of that Titans run was there when I looked, which fits the bill.
Eh, it didn't really work for me. Not because the episode was bad per se, but because it was bad as a "season finale", IMO. Den of Geek's review did(for a change) have an interesting thought on that though - by all accounts "Season 2" is going to be more like "Season 1, Part Deux", ie Titans isn't a "prestige" show, it's a regular 20+ episode season hacked in two to present the appearance of a "prestige" show. Which is dumb.
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2019/01/14 21:49:18
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
Decided to give Titans a look as it's just shown up on Netflix over here, largely expecting to confirm my suspicions that it'd be over-edgy rubbish that totally missed the point of the team (which I've come to appreciate a lot over the last year or so)... and while the jury's still out on that last part, I'm actually enjoying it a lot so far.
4 episodes in, and yes, it's a tad overly dark at times and rage-Robin still bugs me a bit (if only because I reckon that story works far better with Jason or Damien than Dick), but it strikes me as a pretty well-made show. Everyone is convicing as the versions of the characters they're portraying*, the narrative has remained fairly tight, engaging and light on CW-esque drama thus far, and the production values are largely great, though the Beast Boy tiger is a little dodgy at times.
Certainly engaged enough to see it through, and open now to the other series being decent as well, especially after the episode that was basically a Doom Patrol pilot (though to be fair, I have no existing knowledge on that team, unlike the Titans, so it may well have been way off-base).
I do think the initial trailers and the ' Batman' nonsense really mis-sold the tone of the show, it's not nearly as relentlessly grimdark as it seemed... And a lot of the relentless grimdark that is there is centred on Raven, so yeah, fair enough, she should be pretty damn freaky!
*Not saying they're necessarily 'accurate' portrayals, but in a vacuum the versions we see are believable enough.
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2019/01/14 22:10:49
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
I can't say that I loved Titans, but it was better than I thought it would be. And it seems like this season showed us the characters at their darkest moments.
The one I'm looking forward to/half dreading is Doom Patrol. I'm not sure if they can capture the right vibe, but I'm looking forward to the attempt.
I've seen episode 2 so far, starting episode 3. I'm not loving it, really. I'd class it still as overly edgy, but not quite as overly edgy as it was made out to be.
But I mean, come on, Robin chucking a robinarang into someones eyeball? And the obsession with cheek gouging... Urgh...
And the thing is, I'm not exactly a Teen Titans purist, I saw one episode of the cartoon and my main takeaway from it was, "this is super hyper and really gigantically massively hurts my eyes, am I actually slightly epileptic?"
My main understanding of the titans is from the two movies - Justice League VS The Teen Titans and Judas Contract.
Even then, it doesn't really fit...
2019/01/15 01:06:40
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
It’s on Netflix in the U.K., dunno about elsewhere. And I’m currently watching the first episode.
As someone that effing loathes the Teen Titans cartoons, this has properly twisted my melon, in that it’s good!
Opening scenes are excellent and atmospheric. Will definitely be devouring all the other episodes.
But once again, I’m left baffled that Marvel can’t cobble together a decent TV show when their films are brill, and DC has the exact opposite problem...
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As someone who really, really disliked the early episodes of Titans, particularly the ultra-violence and the weird Gotham style surreal black humour there, I found myself really enjoying it by the last 4 episodes of the season.
Though everyone who has said it is right, it doesn't really feel like a season, it definitely feels more like a mid-season finale.
A few things I really liked is, despite the lack of costumes really, it really properly felt like it was a world in DC Comics. Pretty much every major player in the universe short of the Green Lanterns got a shout out throughout the series.
After years of people going crazy with the Arrowverse shows when Gotham was even mentioned it was a breath of fresh air to see the full universe acknowledged. - Including the wacky parts, as illustrated by the Doom Patrol episode/pilot.
Overall, thumbs up from me. I just wish there was more of it.
2019/01/23 20:47:14
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
Young Justice is very good so far and is mature without being a parody of itself. While Titans is a complete joke with unsolid characters and its just well... Boring.
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2019/01/23 21:13:50
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
Compel wrote: As someone who really, really disliked the early episodes of Titans, particularly the ultra-violence and the weird Gotham style surreal black humour there, I found myself really enjoying it by the last 4 episodes of the season.
Though everyone who has said it is right, it doesn't really feel like a season, it definitely feels more like a mid-season finale.
They recently revealed that they held back the intended season ender. It'll be part of next season instead.
The reasoning involved (spoilers ahead)...
Spoiler:
...Dick becoming Nightwing. IIRC, they decided to end on more of a cliffhanger, but also wanted to make the Nightwing intro more impressive. I think the buzz is that they're going to rework the suit some.
A few things I really liked is, despite the lack of costumes really, it really properly felt like it was a world in DC Comics. Pretty much every major player in the universe short of the Green Lanterns got a shout out throughout the series.
Yeah, I agree with that. It's firmly set in a very recognizable DC comics universe, where the JL and groups all the way down to the Doom Patrol exist.
I’m not really fond of Titans. I think mostly because it actively defecates on my understanding of the characters from other sources.
As was previously noted, rageahol Robin doesn’t suit Dick Grayson. Super-happy-murder-fun-times Starfire doesn’t do it for me, at all. Beast Boy feels like he was included to have someone for Raven to talk to, while the adults were busy... adulting with each other. Raven’s character is somewhat well conceived, though everyone in the show seems a little too hand-waivy about the casual murders committed by the “good guys”.
I dont have anything to root for or hope for in this series. If they weren’t characters I liked from elsewhere, I don’t think I’d watch it.
2019/01/26 11:31:10
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2019/02/09 10:54:06
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
Still think it’s odd they put Cyborg in this rather than Titans, and it looks kind of dumb, but it looks like the kind of dumb I could enjoy. Other than Cyborg I don’t really know much about any of these characters so they can’t “ruin” them like they did in Titans.
2019/02/09 17:23:19
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
Still... too campy (and quite possibly far too angsty, 'woe is my humanity') for me, and too many characters that beg for a massive special effects budget that won't be there.
Stick to animation, DC. It's what you're good at.
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2019/02/11 20:01:40
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
If they get Doom Patrol right, IMO it will be very surreal and sometimes poignant, with the nuttiest villains and situations ever.
I've been concerned that Umbrella Academy is going to do the Doom Patrol vibe better than Doom Patrol itself, but I've read some positive non-spoiler reviews. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2019/02/14 20:10:34
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
So yeah, Doom Patrol pilot. Not bad. Mostly just all character intros and back stories (no cyborg) with some interactions to establish who everyone is. Minimal explanations of what their powers are, but some brief examples of them in use are shown. Whole thing is narrated by the villain. All in all not a lot actually happens, but I’m left curious enough so far I’ll definitely watch the next episode.
2019/02/18 15:05:10
Subject: DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
So far...so good with Doom Patrol. The first ep was definitely just a table-setter, so we'll see where it goes from here. I'm a huge fan of the source material, and my feelings about the series have been a little mixed. Super-excited, yes...but also a little concerned that it'd be a very watered-down version that'd leave me disappointed.
But there were good signs. I might have actually fistpumped on my couch when Crazy Jane manifested Flaming Katy, giant sun-head and all. Yeah, that was a really good sign.
It's kinda hard not to compare it to Umbrella Academy, since Gerald Way was clearly inspired by Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol run when he created Umbrella Academy. What's more, Way is the current writer on the Doom Patrol comic. So it makes some kind of cosmic sense that these shows would premiere simultaneously. Although it's too early to tell, it feels like UA is more grounded than I anticipated, while DPatrol seems like it may lean into the surreal and weird a little harder than I expected. Farting donkeys and such. I'm obviously okay with this.
..watched the first 4 epsiodes of Titans, all been enjoyable enough thus far.
... feel Hawk & Dove were maybe a bit hard done by powers/abilities wise -- but bad luck seems to be the default setting for those characters perhaps ?
Bit thrown by it not being T. Dalton playing the Chief in the D. patrol episode.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2019/03/04 18:42:48
Subject: Re:DC comics TV streaming network :titans trailer page 2
...Morrison's Cult of the Unwritten Book/Nurnheim story! With Mark Sheppard playing Willoughby Kipling!
I even saw Hoodman Blind and Hoodman Shame in the preview for this Friday!
I really love the insanity and creativity of that storyline, and I continue to be amazed by the writers' willingness to go to source material like that.
Batman' nonsense really mis-sold the tone of the show, it's not nearly as relentlessly grimdark as it seemed... And a lot of the relentless grimdark that is there is centred on Raven, so yeah, fair enough, she should be pretty damn freaky! 
