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Yep, writing on the wall:
Kickstarter page is pretty much imploding.
Pretty dead/sleepy here.

I really hope Palladium Books chokes on what little remains on "marketshare".
They are not used to working for a living so they will decide to give themselves a break for a while that will slip-by faster than anticipated.
There will be some panicked flogging of product (Christmas in... what month is this??) and then maybe a "save Palladium" plea later on.
I would really like to see their open-house at a later date but cannot bring myself to hand them any kind of money.
I am sure some appropriate legal means of showing my "appreciation" for them will present itself.

Take care.


A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte

 
   
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I will still post here with whatever I come up with in alternative uses....
   
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I'm not done yet with Robotech RPG Tactics.

I have finally finished painting one core box + 2 add-ons (artillery pods and phalanx/spartan destroids).

I still have one more core box and the same add-ons to paint.

I will continue to create ( or buy when available) the 3D minis that were not produced in order to have at least one of each mecha for the three eras.

Here's my homemade wave 2 so far :

[Thumb - my work.jpg]
UEDF conventional vehicules and Invid Scout

   
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Mississippi

Those are some lovely paint jobs, especially considering how small some of those figures are!

It never ends well 
   
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Ok...VF-1 in Mekton Zeta stats.

http://www.worldofjaymz.ca/robotechzeta/vf1valkyriemz.txt
   
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Nottingham, UK

 Talizvar wrote:
Yep, writing on the wall:
Kickstarter page is pretty much imploding.
Pretty dead/sleepy here.

I really hope Palladium Books chokes on what little remains on "marketshare".
They are not used to working for a living so they will decide to give themselves a break for a while that will slip-by faster than anticipated.
There will be some panicked flogging of product (Christmas in... what month is this??) and then maybe a "save Palladium" plea later on.
I would really like to see their open-house at a later date but cannot bring myself to hand them any kind of money.
I am sure some appropriate legal means of showing my "appreciation" for them will present itself.

Take care.



Yep. PB's primary line of defence seems to be working again - the apathy of those they've ripped off.

Pretty sad really.

 
   
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So, in the latest GenCon newsletter, Palladium get a position of prominence (a good 2/3 on the second page of a page in a 3 page letter).

As a regular attendee (this will be my 13th trip in 15 years), I have contacted GenCon to express my displeasure, explain the situation, and hopefully see that it never happens again.

Palladium should never be given the opportunity to promote themselves, or have themselves promoted, without comment.
   
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Between inviting Anita and plugging Palladium, I'm not sure GenCon management knows WTF they're doing.

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-- 9k Craftworld Tian-Bing Eldar
-- 7k Ragnarok 1st "Einherjar" Imperial Guard
-- 2k Pale Templars CSM
-- 4k Solland's Ghosts WFB Dogs of War 
   
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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Between inviting Anita and plugging Palladium, I'm not sure GenCon management knows WTF they're doing.

Anita? Splain please.
   
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/758032.page

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-- $k Kingdom Death : Monster P&M blog
-- 9k Craftworld Tian-Bing Eldar
-- 7k Ragnarok 1st "Einherjar" Imperial Guard
-- 2k Pale Templars CSM
-- 4k Solland's Ghosts WFB Dogs of War 
   
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Mississippi

Morgan Vening wrote:
 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Between inviting Anita and plugging Palladium, I'm not sure GenCon management knows WTF they're doing.

Anita? Splain please.


Let's not sully an already negative thread by discussing her, please.

This thread discusses her; note it is locked: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/758032.page

It never ends well 
   
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Oh cool, I backed her Kickstarter, and while I haven't agreed with every bit of every video, it'd be nice to say hi and thank her for her (and her team's) work.

I really should read the Gencon newsletters more closely.

Edit: finishes page. Dakka Discussions? Huh. I would've assumed that was an Off Topic thread by the responses it garnered. And Ouze being their usual reasonable self. Patience of a saint, that one...

Edit3: holy feth that goes on for 45 pages? Feth me nope nope nope, not tonight. Not enough whiskey in the house to dig through all of that in one sitting.

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Mississippi

 Forar wrote:
Oh cool, I backed her Kickstarter, and while I haven't agreed with every bit of every video, it'd be nice to say hi and thank her for her (and her team's) work.

I really should read the Gencon newsletters more closely.

Edit: finishes page. Dakka Discussions? Huh. I would've assumed that was an Off Topic thread by the responses it garnered. And Ouze being their usual reasonable self. Patience of a saint, that one...

Edit3: holy feth that goes on for 45 pages? Feth me nope nope nope, not tonight. Not enough whiskey in the house to dig through all of that in one sitting.


45 pages in less than 6 days, I should note. That's a little less than 8 pages in a day, and that's with Fridays tending to be dead on Dakka. Not familiar with the lady at all, but I got the sense the discussion got more than a little inflamed (read about a page and a half).

Bet Kevin wishes he could incite that sort of impassioned discussion.


It never ends well 
   
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 Stormonu wrote:
Bet Kevin wishes he could incite that sort of impassioned discussion.


If it's a question of how hot to heat the tar, which feathers to use, and who carries the rail, I'm all in!

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-- $k Kingdom Death : Monster P&M blog
-- 9k Craftworld Tian-Bing Eldar
-- 7k Ragnarok 1st "Einherjar" Imperial Guard
-- 2k Pale Templars CSM
-- 4k Solland's Ghosts WFB Dogs of War 
   
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Oh, and in case people didn't see it, here's the spiel from the GenCon Newsletter that I sent them a message regarding.

Palladium Books - Booth 1217




Booth 1217 – Palladium Books® – Rifts® – Chaos Earth® – Splicers® – More

Rifts® role-playing is hot and getting hotter!
● New Rifts® and Rifts® Chaos Earth® titles from Palladium.
● New Rifts® for Savage Worlds® sourcebooks are in the works.
● Rifts® has been optioned for a movie (live action) by the Walt Disney Company (Star Wars, Marvel).
● Rifts® is science fiction and fantasy, horror and adventure on an epic, dimension-spanning scale!
● A post, post-apocalyptic Earth where the lines between magic and technology blur and merge with the alien and the supernatural.
● Play a dragon or cyborg, mage or robot pilot, hero or misfit alien, and countless other beings from beyond the Rifts.
● See what all the excitement is about at Palladium Books®, Booth 1217.

Use the 30% discount coupon in the Gen Con Coupon Book to purchase any of the 90+ Rifts® and Dead Reign® (Zombie Apocalypse) titles.

Discover the entire Palladium Megaverse® of RPGs. All Palladium RPGs use the same basic core rules. Learn one of our games and you can play them all. You can also port characters, weapons, magic and abilities from one game world to another with little or no conversion.

Heroes Unlimited™ (superhumans of every kind), Nightbane® (superhero-horror), Palladium Fantasy RPG® (epic), Splicers® (think Game of Thrones meets Terminator; weird sci-fi, living weapons), Dead Reign® (zombies and survival), Beyond the Supernatural™ (modern horror), After the Bomb® (mutant animals), and others. A Megaverse® of adventure limited only by your imagination.™

Palladium Books® – Booth #1217 – www.palladiumbooks.com

Currently the only book that's been released since last GenCon is Sovietski (Atlanteans was at GenCon), though there are apparently one book, and three RAW's due in the next couple weeks. Glad they were able to put the funds from the firesale to good use. Only one of these (CE First Responders) was on the backlog at the start of the year. So they're back to making new gak rather than delivering on stuff they've promised for years. I think RRT backers know what that's like.

They keep fething that chicken on the movie deal. It's more than pathetic at this point. We live in a world of infinite possibilities. But I still can't see this thing ever happening.

And I've been past their booth every year since 2013, and frankly, I've "seen the excitement" or the lack thereof. With the exception of the 2013 Max/Miriya taking up the first hour or so of each day, it's arguably the least traffic'd booth of it's size in the entire convention. There are less traffic'd booths, but they're significantly smaller.
   
Made in ca
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Canada

 Forar wrote:
Oh cool, I backed her Kickstarter, and while I haven't agreed with every bit of every video, it'd be nice to say hi and thank her for her (and her team's) work.
I really should read the Gencon newsletters more closely.
Edit: finishes page. Dakka Discussions? Huh. I would've assumed that was an Off Topic thread by the responses it garnered. And Ouze being their usual reasonable self. Patience of a saint, that one...
Edit3: holy feth that goes on for 45 pages? Feth me nope nope nope, not tonight. Not enough whiskey in the house to dig through all of that in one sitting.
Yeah, I put in my two cents in that.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450/758032.page#10009710
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/990/758032.page#10013774
I remember checking in the next day and saw it jump some 10 pages... that was nuts.

I guess we could call this GenCon: The Con-travesty (controversy) edition.

Funny, Palladium Books is holding 4 RPG sessions (2 scenarios played twice) using Robotech GM'ed by Matthew Leviant.
"Southern Cross Jungle Rescue"
An AWACs aircraft has been shot down while flying over the Zentraedi Control Zone. It is up to you to rescue the downed aircrew!
"Stranded!"
Trapped on an unknown planet, surrounded by Invid. How did you get there & what are you going to do to get back to the fleet?
Seems odd to promote a game using product you can no longer sell unless...

Didn't see any being held by Kevin.
Always good to have fan-friends do the heavy lifting.

A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte

 
   
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Mississippi

Think it would be worth notifying Harmony Gold that PB is still attempting to capitalize on their IP? A HG C&D slapdown would be hilarious.

It never ends well 
   
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Canada

 Stormonu wrote:
Think it would be worth notifying Harmony Gold that PB is still attempting to capitalize on their IP? A HG C&D slapdown would be hilarious.
This is another great reason why PB rarely promotes their own stuff: if a fan does it, can you really slap a C&D down?
It IS Harmony Gold so very likely if informed they would put a stop to it for giggles.
Got to keep the way clear for new license holders.

<edit> On the Anita note, she hammers the misogyny button so hard I keep second guessing why I don't typically like/agree with what she says: her videos and methods of writing seems very divisive rather than furthering the inclusivity she claims to seek.
It is kinda like dealing with Kevin: you hear many claims but the person's actions are the only thing you can use to judge a person's character (I shall not and will not claim an actual comparison with her and Kevin, that would be just mean to her, she gets enough flack.).

Ah well, I really would like to make the long trip to Gencon, I think my head would explode, it would be much fun.

Some good news: no sign of them at Dragoncon.
Even did an RPG search under the "Palladium Games" one that was provided and no hits (so-far).
I always wanted to go to that venue since it seems a bit more on the "underground" side and "Cruxshadows" plays there every year.

Anyway, new Warhammer 40k release of stomping robots "Imperial Knights" so terribly distracted again.
Too many games promote the slow ponderous machines, what I always liked about Robotech was the hyperactive speed of the machines portrayed, nevermind the insane missile salvoes and responding evasive action.

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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
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Mississippi

 Talizvar wrote:
 Stormonu wrote:
Think it would be worth notifying Harmony Gold that PB is still attempting to capitalize on their IP? A HG C&D slapdown would be hilarious.
This is another great reason why PB rarely promotes their own stuff: if a fan does it, can you really slap a C&D down?
It IS Harmony Gold so very likely if informed they would put a stop to it for giggles.
Got to keep the way clear for new license holders.


A fan doing it is one thing, PB putting it into their personal newsletter when we KNOW they’ve lost the license for the product is just scummy.

I tried to notify HG myself, but their stupid web site just has a phone number and no customer support e-mail. Somehow seems par for the course.

It never ends well 
   
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Figure I should add pieces of stuff here for whatever system I've done it in now....

A few thigns in Mekton Zeta in addition the VF-1 I shared (Robotech and Macross and WAAAYYY more to come eventually)

https://worldofjaymz.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Robotech/Macross_(MZ)

And some conventional fighters to go with them

https://worldofjaymz.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Real_World_(MZ)

Robotech (Almost completely rewritten palldium stats for all of robotech )

https://worldofjaymz.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Robotech_(Palladium)

Macross Only (there are slight differences even in the early stuff)

https://worldofjaymz.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Macross_(Palladium)

Macross II Timeline/Verse

https://worldofjaymz.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Macross_-_DYRL-verse_(Palladium)

I'll post other things too (ships etc) for robotech and macross going forward as i do them.


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X-wing Regult


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[Thumb - xwing regult.jpg]

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 Talizvar wrote:
 Forar wrote:
Oh cool, I backed her Kickstarter, and while I haven't agreed with every bit of every video, it'd be nice to say hi and thank her for her (and her team's) work.
I really should read the Gencon newsletters more closely.
Edit: finishes page. Dakka Discussions? Huh. I would've assumed that was an Off Topic thread by the responses it garnered. And Ouze being their usual reasonable self. Patience of a saint, that one...
Edit3: holy feth that goes on for 45 pages? Feth me nope nope nope, not tonight. Not enough whiskey in the house to dig through all of that in one sitting.
Yeah, I put in my two cents in that.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450/758032.page#10009710
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/990/758032.page#10013774
I remember checking in the next day and saw it jump some 10 pages... that was nuts.

I guess we could call this GenCon: The Con-travesty (controversy) edition.

Funny, Palladium Books is holding 4 RPG sessions (2 scenarios played twice) using Robotech GM'ed by Matthew Leviant.
"Southern Cross Jungle Rescue"
An AWACs aircraft has been shot down while flying over the Zentraedi Control Zone. It is up to you to rescue the downed aircrew!

"Stranded!"
Trapped on an unknown planet, surrounded by Invid. How did you get there & what are you going to do to get back to the fleet?
Seems odd to promote a game using product you can no longer sell unless...

Didn't see any being held by Kevin.
Always good to have fan-friends do the heavy lifting.



Plus I'd put money that all the stats they are using for Southern Cross, if they use Southern Cross, is from stuff that I did up.

Dimensional Warfare
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Act quickly, before they're all gone!

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I'm going to wait and see what the prices are like on Black Friday.

   
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Yeah, I was kidding.

Everyone should feel free to wait forever.

I suppose this does 'hurt' retailers 100% and doesn't hurt PB at all though, so that's sad, but it is what it is now.

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 Mysterio wrote:
Yeah, I was kidding.

Everyone should feel free to wait forever.

I suppose this does 'hurt' retailers 100% and doesn't hurt PB at all though, so that's sad, but it is what it is now.


I won't lie, I might pick up some more Z-artillery and a few more Regults.

Do you like Free Wargames?
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IL

I decided to crack open a box of the Phalanx and Spartan destroids to use with my Battletech stuff and OMG is the assembly terrible on them. I'd previously built a couple Zentraedi pods which went together without much difficulty but the RDF stuff makes me want to burn the rest of it instead of facing the task of building it all. You have a bunch of parts that require a specific pairing to fit but there's no numbers on the parts.

The sprues all have these weird balls right next to the connection point so that it makes safely removing the part very difficult without pitting the plastic. You have tiny cockpit pieces and in the case of the Phalanx the sprue attaches directly over the window making it near impossible to remove and clean up without accidentally chopping of the corner supports. So many of the parts are needlessly tiny and split in two which makes assembly a giant pain in the ass as you are trying to handle heads that might be made up of 2-3 parts. I dropped pieces so many times it wasn't funny. The plastic itself is very brittle and pits and mars far more easily than any model kits I've ever worked with which makes clean up very tedious. Even after you get the plastic cleaned up you have seam lines all over the model and many of them are in recessed areas of the model making it very difficult to file, sand, or fill with greenstuff.

I really don't know how anyone has had the patience to assembly full armies of these models, even doing just a couple models is an exercise in frustration. I love building 40k stuff and have a massive collection of Macross models so I'm certainly no newbie slouch when it comes to modelling and these are just plain nightmarish, all of the KS antics aside I can see why the game would fail simply due to the difficulty of building the models.

Paulson Games parts are now at:
www.RedDogMinis.com 
   
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The models are buildable (although the gerwalk arms are a major PITA), they just require more cleanup than one has become accustomed to in the modern era. They're laid out like 1970s kits, not new releases from Bandai.

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IL

I've built a ton of the 1980's Macross/Robotech kits that are the cheaply done 1/200 scale ones and even being 30 years old the plastic is less brittle and more forgiving than these, the parts aren't needlessly complex either. It's like they took all the worst features of early 80's model kits and expanded on it. How do you forget to number the parts?? That's been a standard feature for models kits since the 1950's.

Not arguing that they aren't buildable but they are a royal pain compared to pretty much anything made in the last 25-30 years. I'd classify building the RDF mechs as similar to enjoyment for people who like going to the dentist for root canals, sure you survive the experience but it's not what most people want to do.

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 paulson games wrote:


Not arguing that they aren't buildable but they are a royal pain compared to pretty much anything made in the last 25-30 years. I'd classify building the RDF mechs as similar to enjoyment for people who like going to the dentist for root canals, sure you survive the experience but it's not what most people want to do.



Hell, doing root canal treatment is easier than building those things!

You can quote me on that.

I wanted my Unseens for BT, I've built a Warhammer, Rifleman, Archer and Longbow. That's it. I don't know if I can face building any more of them. Four models out of a Showdown pledge...
   
 
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