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I concur, any model (an Ork boy that had died previously) would work for this as there were no 40k squig models available at that time.

Both sides are correct, technically, and depending on how nuanced of an argument you want to have, you could argue both sides convincingly.

Personally, so long as you give me an orkish infantry model I'd be fine with it. Ideally a squig, but I'm not going to fret if it isn't, so long as the model is about the correct size and mounted on the correct base for it, I'd be good to go.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Ackshually there were three I can think of off the top of my head- the two Bommsquigs in the Tankbusta box that had been released at the same time as that codex and the metal attack squig on the metal warboss variant.

 Grimtuff wrote:
Ackshually there were three I can think of off the top of my head- the two Bommsquigs in the Tankbusta box that had been released at the same time as that codex and the metal attack squig on the metal warboss variant.

Yeah one of my weirdest experiences was when someone um ackshualied me on a weird experience thread about how I could have snapped off a piece of my warboss model and used it as a squig during an interaction with a weird dude I had 10 years ago.

the_scotsman wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:
Ackshually there were three I can think of off the top of my head- the two Bommsquigs in the Tankbusta box that had been released at the same time as that codex and the metal attack squig on the metal warboss variant.

Yeah one of my weirdest experiences was when someone um ackshualied me on a weird experience thread about how I could have snapped off a piece of my warboss model and used it as a squig during an interaction with a weird dude I had 10 years ago.

Bruh, I would've thought the intentional misspelling was obvious I was being facetious.

 Grimtuff wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:
Ackshually there were three I can think of off the top of my head- the two Bommsquigs in the Tankbusta box that had been released at the same time as that codex and the metal attack squig on the metal warboss variant.

Yeah one of my weirdest experiences was when someone um ackshualied me on a weird experience thread about how I could have snapped off a piece of my warboss model and used it as a squig during an interaction with a weird dude I had 10 years ago.

Bruh, I would've thought the intentional misspelling was obvious I was being facetious.

Yeah, I know

I've had the standard encounters with the usual suspects like everyone else. You all know the various archetypes. The one encounter that stands out to me is the guy who had a home grown, recasted army. This was in mid 5th edition.

The guy was playing Chaos Space Marines. Most of his large models were cast in plaster. His land raider looked like it was made of butter. His defiler came apart at the waist half way through the game. Every move left some plaster dust on the table. I thought it was awfully bold of him to come play at store and just with his army's literal composition show the owner and everyone else that he wouldn't be supporting the store with purchases. We had a small tournament not long after. One of the rules was "no plaster models."

This was many years ago - back in good old 5th edition.

It was the last summer before college. A group of 6 of us decided to play one big game of Apocalypse. I also bring my girlfriend and another friend who both wanted to hang out and chat and spend the day seeing what the whole Warhammer hobby is like.

We all arrived at the one buddy's house around 8 AM and we split into teams, figure out what we're bringing, and start deploying. Two of the people playing have never played Apoc, and with just general chatting we both finish deploying around noon.

At this point, the host insists on splitting off into another room to talk strategy. I'm on his team, and we oblige. So as we're discussing, he declares he's going to get all 3 stratagems for our side and use them for himself. Not caring that much, my other teammate and I go with it.

We return to the table and ask the other team if they've picked stratagems. They ask if we could skip using them since they have the two new to Apoc players and it's already way later than we hoped it would be.

The host bristles at the very idea and immediately states that under no circumstances would they be allowed to not use those rules.

It ends up being 5 v 1 about this - we all want to just throw dice and have a good time, but he's deeply insulted that we would derail his strategy. This discussion ends abruptly with the host stating that the two newer players need to leave immediately.

We all try to talk him down, even to the point of they're willing to try the stratagems. However, the damage is done, and we all pick up our fully deployed armies and leave (which takes almost an hour - there was a lot on the table) and leave. This is the only Warhammer game that I was genuinely concerned that punches would fly.

So this was my girlfriend (now wife)'s introduction to the game. She and the extra friend got front row tickets to this meltdown, and they both decided maybe this wasn't for them. (Thankfully after almost 10 years the one friend is hooked and my wife is slowly gaining interest!)

I don't talk much to the host anymore. He's probably changed, but just the sheer pettiness and the complete disaster of the day essentially ended our friendship.

I was playing in a weekly league, oscillating between pure slaanesh daemons and running slaanesh daemonkin. Not gonna post the full list, but it had a flawless host daemon prince, sylle'eske and a contorted epitome. A lot of fast infantry, backed by a large number of beatstick characters and some noise marine shooting to clear screens or maybe snipe a squishy backline piece. Midway through the league was when the ultramarine supplement dropped, though i managed to table what was in retrospect a goddam horrific list to take top spot.

I was doing really well in the league, and beating out the powergamey ultramarine player had actually surprised everybody as nobody really expected my list, particularly the heavy slaanesh considering they were actually a good few daemon players in the league, it was just me who played slaanesh.

So uh, maintaining top spot kind of fething sucked. Working up the league had my list get pretty nasty in places, with a flawless host daemon prince getting buffed by prescience and diabloic strength turning them into my top knight killing, primarch slapping, dreadnought dunking murder ball out of the variety i'd seeded into the list. The whole thing was made to ramp up real quick through synergies, so most units could turn into a world beater when needed, this was just my worst.

This prince was flawless host. Armed with ultimate confidence, the intoxicating elixir, 2x claws, and diabolic strength. If they got their power off, their stat line ballooned to 9 attacks at strength 10. A backup dancer jump sorcerer providing prescience and agonies gave +1 to hit and a 5+ fnp. Against imperium, this all let him get 4 extra attacks per 5 to hit cos of dttfe, rerolling 1's to hit. It was the dreaded flawless lord discordant, bite sized and untargetable, if marginally less punchy (it was horrendous overkill anyway usually) before the lord discordant was released i think. The prince really didn't like those imperial lapdogs.

So i was placed against a kinda friend who was 3rd i think with a full knight list, and this mega prince wiped nearly their entire list single-handedly. It was horrific. Using gear like the forbidden gem let me dodge the dreaded dominus knight mega relic flamer, and units like the epitome and fiends let me continuously tie down and bully knights until either world-beater-in-chief deleted them, or they were ground to death by numbers.

At the time i thought it was hilarious, because goddam mid game it was insane. I just got to the point i kept stacking buffs on it, like my MoP joining the fun to throw on infernal power and cursed earth, delightful agonies (csm) etc and having it eat a charge from a knight after some unlucky possessed who'd been nearly wiped by previously mentioned flamer managed to body block 2 knights shooting through absurdly good rolling. They killed something like 5 knights total by the end, and i don't mean armigers.

I wiped them, and they were decently upset by just getting steamrolled but they were cool about it, if frustrated by it a bit. Then we found out because of how the league scores worked out, i'd be playing them again them in 2 games to defend top spot. I don't really remember the game inbetween (thousand sons/tzeentch maybe? If it was then a squad of possessed may have beaten magnus to death).

They (knight opponent) asked me to tone the list down, as they only had knights available atm as they didn't want to get slaughtered. I mean it was a nasty knight list, but i felt kinda awful about the sweep so i agreed. New list was slaanesh/khorne daemons, as i rarely got to bust out a lot of my khorne conversions from 7th so i thought it's be fun. Even got to use my converted skulltaker, who hilariously predicted what the new model would look like. I did bring a khornate smash prince- i'd never used it before, thought it could be fun and they didn't see play till the last turn of the game, which was turn 3 and the game was over by that point.

I'd tabled them again by accident, and again it was kind of ridiculous. Skulltaker managed to duel two armiger warglaives to death in a row, and somehow sylle'eske and a slaanesh daemons prince managed to kill the dread flamer dominus through forcing a swarm of daemonettes through the overwatch, and then jumping in with fiends to pin it as they beat it to death over 2 fight phases. I don't even remember how i killed the rest, except that one was killed by a low 20's bloodletter blob (it was all i had).

In the face of the second unexpected wipe, they started crying and had a meltdown about their life going to gak. I hadn't known about any of it as i kept apologising, and felt like gak for just dunking on them like that. Later i found out that it'd secured me winning the league as i was too far ahead on points to be caught with only a game in the league left to go. Was a pretty bitter win, though i started to become better friends with them and their group after.

For the final game, i brought nothing but renegades and heretics with daemonettes for pure swarm in a 200+ model meme list against the ultramarine player who was absolutely now gunning for me. In part because of the boards lack of cover/los blocking terrain i took like 100+ casualties in turn 1, failed every single of my 10ish charges on turn 2, half of which were below 7" as i rolled something like three double ones. Some deamonettes and epitome tagged a repulsor turn 3, which passed it's debuffed morale and flew off laughing as the centurions finished mop-up. By their turn 3 assault phase, i had a renegade commander and enforcer left. Enforcer got dueled by a primaris lieutenant, and actually managed to win because i'd modeled them with power fists (they were my babies, my utterly terrible babies). Turn 4 they shot them with a full squad of grav centurions after the unit the enforcer charged fell back, firing squad style as the rest of the army hunted my commander and killed them. I killed 4 models, 3 of which was by a souped up renegade enforcer with a power fist and plasma pistol who cost like 50pts.

Laughed, shook hands, then went for a pint with everybody after and had a laugh. Guess it turned out okay in the end, and got along better with the store crowd.

There aren't that many Guard players in my area, or people who play pure Guard at least. I always wanted to play some other Guard players so I asked if any wanted to play against my Catachans at my local club. One guy responds and we arrange a game. So, about a quarter to a third of my Catachans have dark skin and one of my company commanders is based on Sergeant Apone from Aliens (think the new Catachan Colonel). When I start getting all my stuff out, he asks why I have none white Catachans. I find it a bit of a weird question, but I try to remain cordial, give him the benefit of the doubt thst it was a badly phrased question, and say black Catachans have been a thing for a while (there's two on the 3rd edition codex), adding a bit of diversity breaks up the monotony of painting hundreds of Guardsmen and it makes it look like a real army of individuals not just clones. He kinda of scoffs at that, then proceeds to get his army out, which is a Nazi themed Cadian army. He obviously didn't go as far as putting swastikas on, but if you know about World War 2 uniforms you could see it as all the colours were right. Anyway, we play and to his credit he's not a bad player and knows how to play Guard so the game goes fairly smoothly inspire of the number of models on the table. However, by turn 3 the game has very much turned in my favour. I've shot most of his screening and heavy hitter units to bits and I charge his warlord and remaining troops with a big blob of Catachans backed backed up with Straken and a priest. Guess who makes the killing blow to his warlord? Only company commander Apone. Until now, he'd been fairly level headed about loses and poor dice roles, but after this, he sulks and won't even make eye contact. He packs up his stuff and leaves without a word.

Next guy was someone I played as I was just getting back into 40k after a 14 year hiatus. It was a red hot mid August day, and my opponent was a Tau player who turned up in a leather trench coat which he never took off. Bear in mind that the temperature was in the high twenties, in a room with lots of people and no air conditioning. I, and most of the other people were in vests and shorts. The guy also wore sunglasses inside, never took them off once. As we play, we get chatting. The guy is really into Anime and Japanese popular culture and when I mention I taught English in Japan he won't drop the subject and talks about how great Japan is even though he's not been there. I gingerly try to explain that it's not as perfect as he thinks and that some of his ideas about Japan aren't accurate which he seems to take great offense to. He also would pepper his speach with gratuitous and really badly pronounced and incorrect Japanese and when I asked him why he said something along the lines of "oh I'm just so into Japan I can't stop thinking in Japanese and it just comes out".

Last one is more positive, weird in a good way. There is a guy in my area who has a ginger Imperial mustache (like Lemmy from Motorhead) and a mohawk. He's actually a really nice and funny guy but he's very eccentric. He plays Marines, and every single one of his marines are bare headed and have a ginger imperial mustache and mohawk just like himself sculpted out of green stuff.

The "catachan flesh tone" paint is pretty African American, IIRC. Black Catachans are definitely canon.

 CatachanDevil wrote:
There aren't that many Guard players in my area, or people who play pure Guard at least. I always wanted to play some other Guard players so I asked if any wanted to play against my Catachans at my local club. One guy responds and we arrange a game. So, about a quarter to a third of my Catachans have dark skin and one of my company commanders is based on Sergeant Apone from Aliens (think the new Catachan Colonel). When I start getting all my stuff out, he asks why I have none white Catachans. I find it a bit of a weird question, but I try to remain cordial, give him the benefit of the doubt thst it was a badly phrased question, and say black Catachans have been a thing for a while (there's two on the 3rd edition codex), adding a bit of diversity breaks up the monotony of painting hundreds of Guardsmen and it makes it look like a real army of individuals not just clones. He kinda of scoffs at that, then proceeds to get his army out, which is a Nazi themed Cadian army. He obviously didn't go as far as putting swastikas on, but if you know about World War 2 uniforms you could see it as all the colours were right. Anyway, we play and to his credit he's not a bad player and knows how to play Guard so the game goes fairly smoothly inspire of the number of models on the table. However, by turn 3 the game has very much turned in my favour. I've shot most of his screening and heavy hitter units to bits and I charge his warlord and remaining troops with a big blob of Catachans backed backed up with Straken and a priest. Guess who makes the killing blow to his warlord? Only company commander Apone. Until now, he'd been fairly level headed about loses and poor dice roles, but after this, he sulks and won't even make eye contact. He packs up his stuff and leaves without a word.

That's actually kinda hilarious. Mildly disturbing, but hilarious.

 CatachanDevil wrote:

Last one is more positive, weird in a good way. There is a guy in my area who has a ginger Imperial mustache (like Lemmy from Motorhead) and a mohawk. He's actually a really nice and funny guy but he's very eccentric. He plays Marines, and every single one of his marines are bare headed and have a ginger imperial mustache and mohawk just like himself sculpted out of green stuff.

And that's just some grade A awesomesauce. If you're going to rock it, rock it all the way.

I agree on both counts fella. Sadly, Mr Mohawk plays quite sporadically and I'm not a close friend (I've only played him once) but next time I see him and his army I'm going to try and get a pic of his army. It has to be seen. By the way, he's NOT a Space Wolf player funnily enough.

[quote=CatachanDevil
Last one is more positive, weird in a good way. There is a guy in my area who has a ginger Imperial mustache (like Lemmy from Motorhead) and a mohawk. He's actually a really nice and funny guy but he's very eccentric. He plays Marines, and every single one of his marines are bare headed and have a ginger imperial mustache and mohawk just like himself sculpted out of green stuff.

 CatachanDevil wrote:
I agree on both counts fella. Sadly, Mr Mohawk plays quite sporadically and I'm not a close friend (I've only played him once) but next time I see him and his army I'm going to try and get a pic of his army. It has to be seen. By the way, he's NOT a Space Wolf player funnily enough.

I mean, ayone THAT cool couldn't be a Space Wolf player

 CatachanDevil wrote:
Next guy was someone I played as I was just getting back into 40k after a 14 year hiatus. It was a red hot mid August day, and my opponent was a Tau player who turned up in a leather trench coat which he never took off. Bear in mind that the temperature was in the high twenties, in a room with lots of people and no air conditioning. I, and most of the other people were in vests and shorts. The guy also wore sunglasses inside, never took them off once. As we play, we get chatting. The guy is really into Anime and Japanese popular culture and when I mention I taught English in Japan he won't drop the subject and talks about how great Japan is even though he's not been there. I gingerly try to explain that it's not as perfect as he thinks and that some of his ideas about Japan aren't accurate which he seems to take great offense to. He also would pepper his speach with gratuitous and really badly pronounced and incorrect Japanese and when I asked him why he said something along the lines of "oh I'm just so into Japan I can't stop thinking in Japanese and it just comes out".

The term you are looking for is "anime fan".

Wait, weeb is censored? Are they a protected class or something?

That is probably because these days, it's more of a general insult for nerds than an accurate description of a sub-culture.

Yeah, I did not realize just how much of an issue dealing with...I guess ill be delicate here and say "folks who are highly sensitive snowflakes about the existence of different kinds of folks" was going to be until I actually had to manage a play group.

Ive had people with steel legion armies with painted on armbands getting overexuberant about their hellhounds' "gas attacks", ive had Concerned Citizens approach me and whether the manager really allows "those people" in the store and should we go warn him to keep an eye on them in case they try to steal something, ive had people come up to me after playing a few games and cheerfully mention that the club is great the only problem is all the degenerates. Then when I laughed and said "yeah well it's a warhammer club were all a little weird" he said "no, I mean the R---- you have running around."

Yeah - I find the trick is, to hate everyone _equally_, then there’s no problems about discrimination, bigotry etc.

Jidmah wrote:That is probably because these days, it's more of a general insult for nerds than an accurate description of a sub-culture.

...

Subculture?

 Just Tony wrote:

Jidmah wrote:That is probably because these days, it's more of a general insult for nerds than an accurate description of a sub-culture.

...

Subculture?

Subculture - an ethnic, regional, economic, or social group exhibiting characteristic patterns of behavior sufficient to distinguish it from others within an embracing culture or society. Examples include hippies, preppers, goths, trekkies, bikers, juggalos, greasers, skinheads, etc.

 Just Tony wrote:

Jidmah wrote:That is probably because these days, it's more of a general insult for nerds than an accurate description of a sub-culture.

...

Subculture?

Pick up Saga of the Beast, has a good explanation.

Also, "anime fan" and w-word are not synonyms.

Moriarty wrote:Yeah - I find the trick is, to hate everyone _equally_, then there’s no problems about discrimination, bigotry etc.

Heh. Nice.

the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, I did not realize just how much of an issue dealing with...I guess ill be delicate here and say "folks who are highly sensitive snowflakes about the existence of different kinds of folks" was going to be until I actually had to manage a play group.

Ive had people with steel legion armies with painted on armbands getting overexuberant about their hellhounds' "gas attacks", ive had Concerned Citizens approach me and whether the manager really allows "those people" in the store and should we go warn him to keep an eye on them in case they try to steal something, ive had people come up to me after playing a few games and cheerfully mention that the club is great the only problem is all the degenerates. Then when I laughed and said "yeah well it's a warhammer club were all a little weird" he said "no, I mean the R---- you have running around."

I have no idea what the R stands for. I'm not sure if I should know.

 JNAProductions wrote:

Moriarty wrote:Yeah - I find the trick is, to hate everyone _equally_, then there’s no problems about discrimination, bigotry etc.

Heh. Nice.

the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, I did not realize just how much of an issue dealing with...I guess ill be delicate here and say "folks who are highly sensitive snowflakes about the existence of different kinds of folks" was going to be until I actually had to manage a play group.

Ive had people with steel legion armies with painted on armbands getting overexuberant about their hellhounds' "gas attacks", ive had Concerned Citizens approach me and whether the manager really allows "those people" in the store and should we go warn him to keep an eye on them in case they try to steal something, ive had people come up to me after playing a few games and cheerfully mention that the club is great the only problem is all the degenerates. Then when I laughed and said "yeah well it's a warhammer club were all a little weird" he said "no, I mean the R---- you have running around."

I have no idea what the R stands for. I'm not sure if I should know.

The only one I can think of is the word that used to describe those with mental deficiencies. But that wouldn't be capitalised and has more letters.

 Grimtuff wrote:
My friend is playing the then brand new Tau with his TS (3.5 codex. They had a lot going for them with 2 wounds ). He has his Sorcerer Lord behind a small terrain piece, hidden and ready to pounce on the Tau in the following turn. Steve comes across and "borrows" said terrain piece for the game he is setting up. Sorcerer proceeds to get shot off the board.

Imagining this actually happening in universe is hilarious

We see this Sorcerer taking cover behind a boulder. The boulder suddenly poochies up into the sky and the Sorcerer just blinks at the array of guns now pointing at him and then cut to black with the sound of gunfire and gurgling.

Kayback wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:

Moriarty wrote:Yeah - I find the trick is, to hate everyone _equally_, then there’s no problems about discrimination, bigotry etc.

Heh. Nice.

the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, I did not realize just how much of an issue dealing with...I guess ill be delicate here and say "folks who are highly sensitive snowflakes about the existence of different kinds of folks" was going to be until I actually had to manage a play group.

Ive had people with steel legion armies with painted on armbands getting overexuberant about their hellhounds' "gas attacks", ive had Concerned Citizens approach me and whether the manager really allows "those people" in the store and should we go warn him to keep an eye on them in case they try to steal something, ive had people come up to me after playing a few games and cheerfully mention that the club is great the only problem is all the degenerates. Then when I laughed and said "yeah well it's a warhammer club were all a little weird" he said "no, I mean the R---- you have running around."

I have no idea what the R stands for. I'm not sure if I should know.

The only one I can think of is the word that used to describe those with mental deficiencies. But that wouldn't be capitalised and has more letters.

I think he means racists.
Personally racism is perfectly fine to me - in universe in the game. Heck most players are highly speciest to start with and will insult other armies based on species - meanwhile Tyranid players keep mentioning how good everyone tastes and the chaos players keep trying to tempt you to join their dark gods and demonic rites.

However some people don't know how to stop the game spilling into reality; meanwhile others have difficulty separating game and reality in terms of the opinions of others.


That said 40K is fine, I mean heck people play full on WWII games all the time as both Axis and Allies sides and no one bats an eyelid at that. Even when you're playing as Soviets or Germans and enjoying when your Panzer smashes through the weak allied Churchill tank armour.

 Overread wrote:

I think he means racists.
Personally racism is perfectly fine to me - in universe in the game. Heck most players are highly speciest to start with and will insult other armies based on species - meanwhile Tyranid players keep mentioning how good everyone tastes and the chaos players keep trying to tempt you to join their dark gods and demonic rites.

However some people don't know how to stop the game spilling into reality; meanwhile others have difficulty separating game and reality in terms of the opinions of others.


That said 40K is fine, I mean heck people play full on WWII games all the time as both Axis and Allies sides and no one bats an eyelid at that. Even when you're playing as Soviets or Germans and enjoying when your Panzer smashes through the weak allied Churchill tank armour.

I'll second this. A good friend of mine loves history, especially military history, and fields Germans in Bolt Action and has German and old Austrian themed armies in 40k. He really likes Germans in WWII and we can banter about Axis vs. Allies and counterparts in 40k all the time. Back in university he was heavily involved in the international clubs, has many friends from there still, and is happily married to a non-white woman who is wonderful. I think the "racist" term (among others) is thrown around FAR too often, and in doing so it ignores many of the other layers of human existence that people experience. Someone like my friend could easily come across as a weird player with weird experiences, but in reality he's quite normal and such behavior is extremely normal now and through history.

He's not a bit German.

Kayback wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:

Moriarty wrote:Yeah - I find the trick is, to hate everyone _equally_, then there’s no problems about discrimination, bigotry etc.

Heh. Nice.

the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, I did not realize just how much of an issue dealing with...I guess ill be delicate here and say "folks who are highly sensitive snowflakes about the existence of different kinds of folks" was going to be until I actually had to manage a play group.

Ive had people with steel legion armies with painted on armbands getting overexuberant about their hellhounds' "gas attacks", ive had Concerned Citizens approach me and whether the manager really allows "those people" in the store and should we go warn him to keep an eye on them in case they try to steal something, ive had people come up to me after playing a few games and cheerfully mention that the club is great the only problem is all the degenerates. Then when I laughed and said "yeah well it's a warhammer club were all a little weird" he said "no, I mean the R---- you have running around."

I have no idea what the R stands for. I'm not sure if I should know.

The only one I can think of is the word that used to describe those with mental deficiencies. But that wouldn't be capitalised and has more letters.

It was that one. I wasnt gonna try and type out a number of spaces equal to the number of letters. He was referring to the fact that several of our club members have mild disabilities.

Same player, but a tie between:

1) the time I turned up to a game to find the board berift of cover save for rows of knee high transport blocking walls and range markers, with his artillery heavy army already set up in the far corner of a corner to corner deployment.

2) the time he ranted and then stormed out after I killed a critical model without of line of sight, and then told him to jog on when he objected (he was the referee).
Now his objection seems reasonable except that the same squad had shot and killed the same model two turns in a row, and neither had moved save for when the referee replaced it after reminding the player to roll FnP.

Neither I nor my opponent had bothered checking LoS the second time around and the model had already been removed when the guy put the model back again insisting that he had made sure it wasn't visible when he had previously replaced it. And he felt I was out of line calling him a just a little bit biased at that point...


Still I did quite enjoy playing against the guy. Some improbable streak of good or bad luck would always always cost him our games no matter how strong his list, cheesy his play, or advantageous his position.

 CaptainWaffle wrote:

 Overread wrote:

I think he means racists.
Personally racism is perfectly fine to me - in universe in the game. Heck most players are highly speciest to start with and will insult other armies based on species - meanwhile Tyranid players keep mentioning how good everyone tastes and the chaos players keep trying to tempt you to join their dark gods and demonic rites.

However some people don't know how to stop the game spilling into reality; meanwhile others have difficulty separating game and reality in terms of the opinions of others.


That said 40K is fine, I mean heck people play full on WWII games all the time as both Axis and Allies sides and no one bats an eyelid at that. Even when you're playing as Soviets or Germans and enjoying when your Panzer smashes through the weak allied Churchill tank armour.

I'll second this. A good friend of mine loves history, especially military history, and fields Germans in Bolt Action and has German and old Austrian themed armies in 40k. He really likes Germans in WWII and we can banter about Axis vs. Allies and counterparts in 40k all the time. Back in university he was heavily involved in the international clubs, has many friends from there still, and is happily married to a non-white woman who is wonderful. I think the "racist" term (among others) is thrown around FAR too often, and in doing so it ignores many of the other layers of human existence that people experience. Someone like my friend could easily come across as a weird player with weird experiences, but in reality he's quite normal and such behavior is extremely normal now and through history.

He's not a bit German.

This is why I tried to phrase my post in as delicate and sensitive a way as possible so as not to offend.

Its all well and good to talk about opponents who scream and throw models and dice and flip tables and cheat in ways a five year old would find outrageous on the playground, but theres a special bespoke layer of internet skepticism reserved for stories that involve people displaying the same level of childishness toward someones gender or skin tone.

“It was that one. I wasnt gonna try and type out a number of spaces equal to the number of letters. He was referring to the fact that several of our club members have mild disabilities. “

So, he plays with toy soldiers, and is critical of people displaying ‘arrested development’? Pots & Kettles, much?