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This is looking really good!

mxwllmdr wrote:I love it. What, if any, are your plans for hiding the hardware at the individual joints and pivot points?

Naaah! I'm just gonna let giant screw that can be turned with a #400 Phillips tip (The most common used Phillips is a #1 or #2 BTW)

The bolts will be covered by the hydraulic end fittings by a method I haven't thought of yet. They will snap over the hardware to hide it but for now to ease assembly/disassembly I'm just installing the screws loosely.

Be assured here will be no visible fastenings when I am finished.

So the Unearthly childe watches Battlestar Galactica or TBBT, I'm partial to the BBT myself.

I watch both Black, I pride myself on my geekyness

Dave Smiths titan is pretty amazing... but yours is coming along great! the attention to detail is spot-on, im looking forward to more.

I'm looking on this thread as more of a public service. While I can't hope to equal Mr Smith in originality I do hope to shed some light on how he accomplished his Magnum Opus with a few little Blackadderisms thrown in to keep my self respect.

Today I worked on the massive block that supports the weight of the upper torso and transfers it to the legs.

The pelvis is the de facto heart of this beast and many of the models I have examined it is usually much too small. We must assume this Titan masses on the order of a thousand metric tonnes at least half of which is above the waist block. There must be something substantial to support this mass and still provide the flexibility to achieve bipedal locomotion.

Below is my interpretation which masses a third of a kilo already (about 11 ounces).

I built it in two interlocking parts so I have access to the adjustment screws to change the pose.

I figure when complete it will mass about half a kilo or thirteen ounces.

That's a lot of plasticard.

O_o

Wow, another fantastic approach I'd never in a million years consider!!!

Your approach to stability and sturdiness combined with function is astounding. Wondering if this particular conjoined block was a result of need or ease of design.


Conjoined I think is ok to say on Dakka......

How unworthy of you to intimate I took the easy road.

When have I ever demonstrated a penchant for simplicity?

The two part block was the only way I could think of to allow access to the adjustment screws without gargantuan holes cut in the surface. getting the two pieces to meld with relative seamlessness was a hassle of the first water and good practice for the stacking decks that will come later.

I don'no, sounds dirty to me.

I intimate nothing of the sort. SImply know that you plan way better than I and was curious as to the oderr in which you had planned this. It is obvious that the planning was at a deeper level than I can concieve of. Hats off as usual is all I meant.


I actually think of circus freaks with that word. Doesn't sound dirty, just odd. Perhaps as if we are using it outside of its normal definition.

Jeez thats a word I'll lose from my repertoire "Circus Freaks" is not at all what I had in mind.

The insular Blackadder

ONG????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Wow.........................................

Unbelievable as always BlackAdder, you always seem to have a cunning plan...

Nice, a massive project!

Someone get the canvas jacket; ya know the one with the extra long sleeves. I was piddlin' around detailing the pelvis and I couldn't find a satisfactory Adeptus Mechanicus emblem so I decided to make one of my own, after all I mean how hard could it be.

Well I have to tell you the cogged sprocket was tedious. If I do another one I'll make it in pieces.

The plugs and wiring wasn't too bad I shaved down my smallest diameter rods to half round for the plugs and and used shavings for some of the smallest cables.

http://i.imgur.com/8GNYJ.jpg


The skull wasn't that difficult at all. I first tried to make it of a single scrap of 2.0 MM sheet styrene but found the relief wasn't deep enough so I glued on another layer and carved away everything that didn't look like a skull.




Periodically I doused the sculpture down with thinset cement to soften the cuts and blend the seams. Right now I am waiting for the glue to dry so I can put on the final detailing.

http://i.imgur.com/6wrIf.jpg


Now I copied this off of "The city of the dead" emblem which I like better than the standard Adeptus Mechanicus emblem BTW it appears that the emblems can be mirror imaged, is that right?

Anyway it took less time to make the tiny thing (It's only a centimeter wide the skull that is.) than it has to write this reply.

I gotta learn to type someday.

This is why I love watching good titan builds. Keep it up ya crazy

Looking awesome as ever there Black, wondered where you had gotten to

and yes, the Ad-mech symbolds are symetrical down their vertical line.

Hmmm this doesn't bear a close inspection. I brushed the piece with a shoe brush to see if I could accentuate the relief and the skull looks a bit flawed at close range highlighted. The lens rim also has to be thinned down a tad. This is the best close up I've managed with this camera and wouldn't you know it's of dubious work. Faa!

http://i.imgur.com/fOi2g.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/xAcTi.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/4DiaV.jpg

Wow, that's awesome. I have one that is about an inch and a quarter in Diameter that I cut out of a CoD wall made a cast of for a project. The skull on that is about a centimeter, too. I don't think I would have been able to make one. Good job, Black.....

Why didn't you use the Adeptus Symbol off the GW Manufactorum?

That's the one I copied albeit 1/2 the size.

http://i.imgur.com/prU6y.jpg

The whole emblem is as small as my thumbnail

Time to break out the foam board mock up I made so many months ago and see where I went wrong. At that time I was going for a foam Warlord with a styrene veneer and after I totally miscalculated the legs I put the whole project on hold until I had some decent measurements.

I'm surprised how close I came to duplicating my target size as both of these models were built with absolutely no reference to the other. On the negative side the overall height with the knees locked in the following images will yield a 29 inch Warlord which is an inch taller than the DS model and 3 inches taller than my amended target height and 5 inches taller than my original estimation! Egad!

http://i.imgur.com/K5tnv.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/b5816.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/lxvqG.jpg


Granted the legs as they are pictured look a bit stilted (groan) and with knees flexed and stepping out in a dynamic pose the mean height should approximate DS's model but it will make any subsequent Emperor titans that much larger and impractical for the average battleboard.

Holy Carp! Thats gonna be huge, and awsome.

On another forum I received the following critique:

I feel like the mock-up body is maybe 15-20% too big

Good, an honest critique. Let's see what it would look like with 10 - 15 - and 20% smaller.

http://i.imgur.com/uMSJ9.jpg

100%

http://i.imgur.com/UL2sB.jpg

10% smaller


http://i.imgur.com/izAZc.jpg

15% smaller

http://i.imgur.com/3f3KG.jpg

20% smaller

I certainly don't want to have to rebuild the body smaller if I can get away with it. Better to establish the right size on the drawing board.

Well I for one would go for the 15% smaller one as it balances it out much more. Of course, the legs not being filled out at the top gives it a rather spindly appearance atm but I still think once everything is sorted out that would give you the best results!

Nows your chance to participate in this build. Your input will be greatly appreciated..........

The torso pictured is just a foam board mockup; once I have established a size I'll duplicate the foam board version in styrene. And don't forget I intend to install a complete compartmented interior so getting the size of the torso right is paramount at the moment.

Photoimpacted in carapace and superstructure at 100, 90, and 85 percent the 80% being ridiculously too small

http://i.imgur.com/g1IVN.jpg

100%................................................90%.................................................85%

In the cold light of day I am leaning towards 90%

I agree, 90% seems closer, but I personally feel you made it too tall for it's width.

bibblles wrote:I agree, 90% seems closer, but I personally feel you made it too tall for it's width.

Elaborate please; legs, torso, carapace?

90% would be my vote aswell... are you going to shrink the torso as in the photo's or are you going to keep the same width but make it shorter?

Thanks for the input, I intend to shrink both height and breadth proportionately as pictured. The problem I am deliberating is overall scale not proportion.


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The much anticipated torso build finally; I shall start with the Engineering level with the floor being the top of the planetary mechanism body rotation plate. I have reduced the overall size 10% witness the excess outside the gear plate uprights. The center console/axle support is one of the drums left over from a failed sleeve originally earmarked for the hip axles. That will support the center control monitor consoles in the center well.

http://i.imgur.com/vDp8R.jpg

bibblles wrote:I agree, 90% seems closer, but I personally feel you made it too tall for it's width.

Are you mad?



anywho... my two cents for what its worth.


I've seen builds ranging from 100-75% but the 90% is the only one that seems viable imo, as the upper body is meant to be solid and large, as well it has to house several reactors for a start and the 17% one is far too weedy.

Now now, be fair; I fully respect and appreciate all opinions especially since it was one of those that prompted me to conduct this survey. I had a gut feeling the torso was too large but it was the re-enforcement by a subscriber that showed me the direction to follow.

BTW I had no idea shmoos were carnivorous!

http://deniskitchen.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=bios.shmoo