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Awesome Helldrake. it looks so much better that the GW Dinobot!

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@Gitsplitta - Thanks bud, it's nice to have your opinion, sorry for the prodding

@ Kvit Ghost & FutureTense - Thanks guys, I laid down some paint last night but am not quite ready to take pics.

@Solar Lion - Cheers, funny thing is I loved the Dinobots as a kid.... but not on my gaming table!

Great to have you back at the cutting board! Like your hellbrute - I think actually its quite impressive how this one gig has inspired such wide-ranging, fascinating (and in your case pustuley) conversions. Liking your drake, most impressed by the legs, though the whole thing's a corking job. Well played sir!

@Graven - Thanks bud, I was a bit iffy about the legs but now I have a coat of paint on them I am much happier with them.

...speaking of a coat of paint

















They both need a bunch more washes and highlighting and the metals need to finished off on the Helbrute but they are coming together.

And here are the DV Chosen I mentioned earlier



And if anyone else is wondering why the Chosen Champion from the DV box is swinging a powermaul while holding his helmemt in his hand.. it's cause he is a dumbass.

But happily once you convince him to put on his helmet he looks pretty badass, like this



And yes, I did have that conversation with the model while I cut of his face.

Cheers

BLACKHAND

Looking good Blackhand! Really love the colors and tones.

I'm always in awe of your GS skills Black, top notch mate! Hows the little one?

@Gits - Thanks bud!

@Knightley - Cheers Bro, I don't think I will ever get a crisp a paintjob as yours... part of the reason I moved to the more forgiving Nurgle paint style edit: Oh and the kids a great!

Wicked stuff man!

Holy gak, that helldrake is awesome.

@hobofisherman & Big Boss Grimbad - Thanks guys, I was a little worried about how the wings would go with the skeletal body but he is starting to come together.

Speaking of the transition between the busy and intricate body and the broad flat planes of the wings, I tried to merge them physically with the rocket engines and "knuckles" at the base of the wing plates. But after painting all I could see were the big green wings so I thought I would try something I have almost never done... freehand designs*shudder*

So here he is with his new nurgle tatts.





I went for a classic Nurgle three ring symbol with a few barbed arrows to show he is all about chaos as well, tried to weather it a bit and I will probably keep adding washes to break up the green a little more. Oh and don't worry the skull isn't that dark it is just in shadow in that pic unfortunately

C&C is welcome as always

Cheers,

BLACKHAND

Very nice weathering and rot. I think you are correct .. the green does need to be toned down a bit. IMO. Although it may depend on what other colors you use for contrast.

Blackhand, that really looks fantastic, but there is one thing that keeps nagging at me. The green you chose, especially the squigglies around the spine and the base of the wings... looks like the same color as bare green stuff. It's really distracting... makes the whole model look unfinished.

Love the pattern on the wings though... wow.

Show me a different picture of what you cut off and did to the inside are of the choosen with the Powermaul. I hate that helmet off pose!

SL

Excellent work on the Nurglebrute. And have to agree with the others that I prefer your 'drake

The wings needed the symbols on to break up the bare green, good choice there, looks fantastic.

But I'm with Gits on the tendony stuff, that green does look like bare GS.

@Solar Lion - I haven't thought of adding another colour as the rest of my army is Nurgle green and Bone but I could look at adding an orangey rust maybe?
As for the Chosen Helmet, the helmet and hand are separate so all you nee to do is carve off the hand, you lose a little of the helmet edge on the lower left side but that tucks into the collar so you can't see it. then you shave the back of the helmet to get a flat edge and shave off the face to match and voila! I will try and get a few closeups for you today to show what I mean.

@Gitsplitta - Haha, I know what you mean about the green, my "alienesque" bases suffer from the same problem.

My thoughts ( and I talked with my mate about this too) is that the fluff for the Heldrake is that it was an aerofighter that has been warped by the daemon inside it into the shape it is now. So the logic of the paintjob is that everything is made up of the original substance of the plane. It follows that the body of the "zombie" part of the Heldrake will be the same green as the wings because it is made of the same stuff.... at least that was our logic

Maybe I repaint the muscles and such to a rusty metal? or just work over the green with more washes to alter the colour?
Or do I go the whole hog and repaint the entire body as flayed muscle? the issue there is that it introduces a whole new colour to the model which I feel I will need to add to the whole army to tie them all together... or am I just being a bit anal about colour symmetry?

@Gits & Monkeytroll - Glad you both like the symbols on the wings, believe it or not that was pretty nerve wracking to do! They are normally something I would do in 3d with plasticard but the other day I saw some of dave taylor's Blood Pact army again and the 8 pointed stars he paints on his vehicles are so cool that I thought I would give it a try. I especially like the way he puts them off centre, even to the point of only a quarter of the design being visible yet still being recognisable.

Sorry for the longwinded replies but they have given me something to think about so I will head back the painting desk and experiment with alternate colours for the "flesh" part sof the Heldrake.

Cheers,

BLACKHAND

I love the beastie, although the exhausts seem relatively pristine? Maybe fester them up a bit eh?


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Re: green - Devlan mud it. Just tone it down and get it grubby, I do think it's the right pallet.

The exhausts are plastic tube that has been slightly melted with a lighter, maybe I should go back over them with the lighter and perhaps crack them a bit with a knife blade.

Wil revisit them when I am deciding on new colours today, cheers Graven!

Seriously? Burn baby burn!

Although my first thought was to make it more flesh-like, it would stand out from the rest of the army. Now without seeing it I wouldn't want to speculate on whether that would be good or bad

I think it just needs a bit of work to take it away from the GS look, maybe bring the highlights up a bit and add a red wash to the depths - that might tie in well if you were tempted to add some rusty orange to the scheme?

Yeah I am tending more towards the rusty orange, it will be a great contrast to the green and an easy colour to add to the corroded parts of the Plague marines armour so it will tie everything together nicely. Will probably make a wash of Devlan Mud and Blazing orange and see how that works to begin with.

@Graven- Yeah I used to carve,drill and GS Sculpt my Spore Chimneys and then I say a blog where a guy used a lighter to do exactly what I was doing in a fraction of the time! Sometimes you just need a fresh look at a process I guess

Those models are frickin' sexy. I would like to link to them on my scoop.it, do you have a blog / step-by-step of them?

Sorry Nicebel, no step by step and this P&M blog is the extant of my posting I'm afraid

Yes. an lean towards the reddish spectrum would help. it doesn't have to be overpowering just something to " break up" the green. My suggestion would be to do the " entrails around the engines in a black, then highlight with the red brown ( like the color of dried blood) then do a light green wash to tie them together. you ten could go back over with a brighter red brown as a drybrush.

You could do the same where the spine attaches to the flesh,

Just a suggestion... carry on with the fine work.

I was aiming for the entrails to look like the chromed pipes that literally cover the outside of any jet engine you see, but they have become mutated so that in patches they were still metal but in others they were a prehensile tentacle in green.

Hadn't thought of moving them in to the red spectrum as well though , it might be something to look at.

I did a heavy overpaint in a lighter green on the muscles then washed it with devlan and a mix of devlan mud and blazing orange and they definitely don't lok like GS anymore. I highlighted then ran a devlan mud wash down the spine "flesh" as well to give it some more depth and finally have given all the rusted and corroded areas on the wings a wash of the devlan mud + blazing orange mix as well as a blazing orange highlight.

Whew

Will get some pictures up tonight hopefully as I am back at work so painting has to slow down, damn work getting in the way of my hobbies!

Cheers

BLACKHAND

It seems I have missed far too many updates on your thread, time to catch up!

Latest Chaos stuff is fantastic, the dragon is far better than the GW one, even a great paintjob to round it off!

Looking forward to seeing the fruits of your labors my friend.

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Hadn't thought of moving them in to the red spectrum as well though , it might be something to look at.

Will get some pictures up tonight hopefully as I am back at work so painting has to slow down, damn work getting in the way of my hobbies!

Sounds good.. oddly I thought; what if the pipes were flesh only at the ends and metal in the middle. They are slowly turning,, ect

Something to look forward to tomorrow!

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 BLACKHAND wrote:

Hadn't thought of moving them in to the red spectrum as well though , it might be something to look at.

Will get some pictures up tonight hopefully as I am back at work so painting has to slow down, damn work getting in the way of my hobbies!

Sounds good.. oddly I thought; what if the pipes were flesh only at the ends and metal in the middle. They are slowly turning,, ect

Something to look forward to tomorrow!

I think I will have to take some close up pics of the pipe/tentacles, they are a mix of fleshy/green ends and metal in the middle just like you are saying but it may not be that apparent in the pics I have put up so far.

Sorry for the delay with the pics people, sister's birthday and all that.

Here is a side on pic of the Heldrake to show the silhouette, am quite happy with hoe he looks compared to the GW version.
Read today on a blog that it has now been named as the "Helduck" tragic!



And here are some top views showing the rust and weathering I tried... still not the best I a m afraid







And some close ups of the jet engines and their tentaclular pipes





And here is a couple of shots of the helmetless chosen for Solar_Lion, hope this helps in your conversion





Please pardon the lump of yellow in my GS, my last lot of Galeforce GS has a hard outer shell on the yellow which is plagueing my sculpting.

Thats about as far as I am willing to paint the Heldrake, I am happy with how he looks and I worry that any more may wreck him!

Let me know what you think guys.

Cheers,

BLACKHAND

Brown and bubbly, just the way I likes it my only niggle (nurgle-niggle?) is that maybe add a white/pinkish tinge to the tentacular pipes so they're a bit more intestinal.