Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015) - A wild 40k Bloodthirster variants appeared!

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**ClockworkZion**

It seems the internet needs some reason to complain about every codex. Sure sometimes it's valid, but sometimes it's just pointless whining and that drags the valid stuff down. :/

**ClassicCarraway**

Brometheus wrote:
Hahahaha WOW, you have to buy a box of Possessed if you want to use the Blood Host.

GW got us again

Like hell I do, I refuse to buy those gawd-awful models....now those End Times minis (Skullreapers, or some such) that just came out, those would look great on round bases

**ClockworkZion**

ClassicCarraway wrote:
Brometheus wrote:
Hahahaha WOW, you have to buy a box of Possessed if you want to use the Blood Host.

GW got us again

Like hell I do, I refuse to buy those gawd-awful models....now those End Times minis (Skullreapers, or some such) that just came out, those would look great on round bases

Possessed make great conversion kits though!

**ClassicCarraway**

So if I'm reading the rumors right, the daemon units don't have access to rewards or any upgrades? That's a real shame. Also, are Bloodletters now 5 models for the starting unit size instead of 10? What is the max unit size?

**Lord Yayula**

I've been away from 40k for a while it seems, can someone explain me how the decurion attachment works, with my google-fu I only managed to find that is a formation with little formations within, is this correct?, Meaning that from the previous rumours you need to take the Slaughtercult core and forcefully one of the optional detachments, am I correct? Also, does it prevents you from fielding a CAD if you manage to fit with the core and 1 optional auxiliary attachment?

**MasterSlowPoke**

It's a formation of formations.

You're not prevented from taking a CAD or any other detachment.

**Lord Yayula**

Lord Blackscale wrote:
I am a little saddend by the lak of MoK on termies. Is anyone else missing it?

MoK termies? they are in.

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MasterSlowPoke wrote:
It's a formation of formations.

You're not prevented from taking a CAD or any other detachment.

Great, thanks. I'm trying to figure out if with my current models I've been able to use this codex without spending much more money on it. So wanted to know exactly how it worked.

**DaddyWarcrimes**

Deadawake1347 wrote:
GiraffeX wrote:
Kharn all ready has a dataslate the Butcherhorde so not sure why people are moaning he's not in this book. It's not a World Eaters codex so why would he be in there.

No, it's not a World Eaters codex, it's a followers of Khorne codex, and who is the single most famous Khorne worshiping space marine? KHARN.

That's like creating a Nurgle book without Typhus, but having plague marines in there, or if the Black Legion supplement barred you from using Abadonn because reasons, or if they came out with an Ulthwe specific codex and decided that Eldrad shouldn't be in it.

Kharn is the name you think of when you think of the followers of Khorne in 40K.

Kind of like a Dark Eldar codex without Vect...

**Nocturnus**

DaddyWarcrimes wrote:
Deadawake1347 wrote:
GiraffeX wrote:
Kharn all ready has a dataslate the Butcherhorde so not sure why people are moaning he's not in this book. It's not a World Eaters codex so why would he be in there.

No, it's not a World Eaters codex, it's a followers of Khorne codex, and who is the single most famous Khorne worshiping space marine? KHARN.

That's like creating a Nurgle book without Typhus, but having plague marines in there, or if the Black Legion supplement barred you from using Abadonn because reasons, or if they came out with an Ulthwe specific codex and decided that Eldrad shouldn't be in it.

Kharn is the name you think of when you think of the followers of Khorne in 40K.

Kind of like a Dark Eldar codex without Vect...

Except that Kharn has a "current" model, whilst Vect does not.

**adamsouza**

If I were GW, I would add a bit of fluff in the next book where Kharn becomes a Daemon Prince of Khorne, and then say his exclusion from the codex was exactly as planned.

**thraxdown**

ClassicCarraway wrote:
So if I'm reading the rumors right, the daemon units don't have access to rewards or any upgrades? That's a real shame. Also, are Bloodletters now 5 models for the starting unit size instead of 10? What is the max unit size?

The guy with the codex said all of the units are the same so I imagine bloodletters can be anywhere between 10 and 20 just like chaos daemons book. a shame if you ask me, at the very least you should be able to take them in units of 8

**casvalremdeikun**

If I didn't already have an army composed of crazy red guys in armor that like to get up close to kill stuff, I would consider this book. Perhaps if they come out with a Tzeentch Daemonkin or Slaanesh Daemonkin army book, I would look into getting one of those.

**SharkoutofWata**

The Formations make me like it, but I don't think I'm really ready for a mono-God army. Especially not Khorne when I already have Blood Angels. However, the bike formation with Move Through Cover is almost a must have in the Red Corsair list I have planned. Very much like the Astral Claws they used to be. Some good little tools in the codex it looks like. Honestly, I'm happy with these small but much needed buffs for select units.

**angelofvengeance**

A look at some of the content in today's GW blog post.

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ClassicCarraway wrote:
Like hell I do, I refuse to buy those gawd-awful models....now those End Times minis (Skullreapers, or some such) that just came out, those would look great on round bases

Buy some Gal Vorbak instead? Beefier and more badass looking. Or convert your own.. Easily done.

**Darkness**

The Herald of Khorne in that pic is clearly on a 32mm base, and from the other pics on BL's page, it seems bloodletters are still on 25mm but the CSM units are on 32mm

**Medium of Death**

This picture just highlights the problems with the Chaos range.

So many differing aesthetic choices.

Baffling.

I'd scrap the Raptors, Mauler/Forgefiend and the Heldrake.

I honestly have no idea why they scrapped the amazing old Raptor design.

**ZombieDK**

thraxdown wrote:
ClassicCarraway wrote:
So if I'm reading the rumors right, the daemon units don't have access to rewards or any upgrades? That's a real shame. Also, are Bloodletters now 5 models for the starting unit size instead of 10? What is the max unit size?

The guy with the codex said all of the units are the same so I imagine bloodletters can be anywhere between 10 and 20 just like chaos daemons book. a shame if you ask me, at the very least you should be able to take them in units of 8

All troops comes in units of 8

Cultist
C:SM
Berzerkers
Bloodletters

My option about the dex is that its awsome and opens up for alot of nice options on how to field your army

**MasterSlowPoke**

Any word on what the final formations are?

**pretre**

**krazynadechukr**

Darkness wrote:
The Herald of Khorne in that pic is clearly on a 32mm base, and from the other pics on BL's page, it seems bloodletters are still on 25mm but the CSM units are on 32mm

I bought a box of berserkers & blood letters and preordered the new box ($230 one) last weekend. The GW manager handed me a bunch of 32mm bases and said the berserkers & bloodletters now go on 32mm bases. FYI

**ZombieDK**

krazynadechukr wrote:
Darkness wrote:
The Herald of Khorne in that pic is clearly on a 32mm base, and from the other pics on BL's page, it seems bloodletters are still on 25mm but the CSM units are on 32mm

. The GW manager handed me a bunch of 32mm bases and said the berserkers & bloodletters now go on 32mm bases. FYI

They dont have to be on 32mm bases. Its not a rule yet. So people are still free to put them on 28mm if that is what they want

**Warboss85**

Possessed have mark of khorne and daemon of khorne . Give me 5 strength 5 attacks per guy at charge. Not bad

**MasterSlowPoke**

Do 5 wounds and your Juggerlord is S10 AP2 on the charge. Too bad he'll have almost no defense.

**Darkness**

Warboss85 wrote:
Possessed have mark of khorne and daemon of khorne . Give me 5 strength 5 attacks per guy at charge. Not bad

They are S5 base so S6 on the charge. Only problem is you can't have the champ turn into a DP or BT

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krazynadechukr wrote:
Darkness wrote:
The Herald of Khorne in that pic is clearly on a 32mm base, and from the other pics on BL's page, it seems bloodletters are still on 25mm but the CSM units are on 32mm

I bought a box of berserkers & blood letters and preordered the new box ($230 one) last weekend. The GW manager handed me a bunch of 32mm bases and said the berserkers & bloodletters now go on 32mm bases. FYI

I want them on 32mm. More footprint

**changemod**

Good lord, even the Chaos Spawn is forced to deep strike.

**Darkness**

MasterSlowPoke wrote:
Do 5 wounds and your Juggerlord is S10 AP2 on the charge. Too bad he'll have almost no defense.

not the way I read it. +1 S for the ax, +1 S for the wound counter, x2 Strength for the wound counter. Thats 4x2+1+1=10. He doesn't need to charge for that stat line.

**herpguy**

Too bad I1 makes it nearly useless, especially with no access to a 2+ or 3++.

Also, does anybody have any idea on points? That is really what matters.

**adamsouza**

I photoedited the leaked cellphone cam pics into something without crooked text

Other than Icon of war letting everyone within 12" re-roll failed charges, I'm not loving the new Warlord traits.

**angelofvengeance**

Clearly someone's been playing Dawn of War. That 8th result on the Blood Tithe chart reminds me of when you summon a Bloodthirster in-game.

**changemod**

With the Warlord Trait, the detachment, the sword and the basic rules, you can generate three blood tithe points for killing someone in a challenge. If you're actually getting opportunities for a challenge that's four points in that turn without factoring in any other deaths.

Stick all that on a Juggernaut Herald or other fast character, stick in a unit and go killing things you outclass.