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 aracersss wrote:
there is this popping up in b&c



In fairness to the poster on b&c, understanding the artistic anatomy of a 3d object on a 2d image is challenging. Just ask Rob Liefeld.

Powerfist arm: Humerus (upper arm bone) extending away from the body. Radius & Ulna (forearm bones) bent at the elbow joint.

Bolter arm: Humerus (upper arm bone) in a nearly parallel plane to the body. Radius & Ulna (forearm bones) straight at the elbow joint.

But a picture is worth a thousand words.




   
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It actually kind of bothers me that the sergeant used in the showcase there has his "half-helm" faceplate thing still going on (which as we've seen from that one special sergeant or lieutenant model indicates the helms are indeed capable of splitting into 2-3 component parts; older armour marks seemed to be able to do this too with the detachable respirator grille)...while a full helm is clamped to his waist.

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 Kawauso wrote:
It actually kind of bothers me that the sergeant used in the showcase there has his "half-helm" faceplate thing still going on (which as we've seen from that one special sergeant or lieutenant model indicates the helms are indeed capable of splitting into 2-3 component parts)...while a full help is clamped to his waist.


I concur..... it’s the first thing I noticed and my eyes keep getting drawn back to it!

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 Kawauso wrote:
It actually kind of bothers me that the sergeant used in the showcase there has his "half-helm" faceplate thing still going on (which as we've seen from that one special sergeant or lieutenant model indicates the helms are indeed capable of splitting into 2-3 component parts; older armour marks seemed to be able to do this too with the detachable respirator grille)...while a full helm is clamped to his waist.


Nothing some careful crafting and cutting cannot fix. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to see it done here on DakkaDakka. There are some very skillful modellers here. I am not among their number, yet.
   
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 CodeKantorBlue wrote:
 Kawauso wrote:
It actually kind of bothers me that the sergeant used in the showcase there has his "half-helm" faceplate thing still going on (which as we've seen from that one special sergeant or lieutenant model indicates the helms are indeed capable of splitting into 2-3 component parts; older armour marks seemed to be able to do this too with the detachable respirator grille)...while a full helm is clamped to his waist.


Nothing some careful crafting and cutting cannot fix. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to see it done here on DakkaDakka. There are some very skillful modellers here. I am not among their number, yet.


Or just not use the badly designed head.

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To be clear I'm not concerned about the modeling possibilities as I'm sure you can match better heads or not put a helmet on the hip to begin with - it just seems like a weird oversight for a "display" model.

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 CodeKantorBlue wrote:
 aracersss wrote:
Spoiler:
there is this popping up in b&c



In fairness to the poster on b&c, understanding the artistic anatomy of a 3d object on a 2d image is challenging. Just ask Rob Liefeld.

Powerfist arm: Humerus (upper arm bone) extending away from the body. Radius & Ulna (forearm bones) bent at the elbow joint.

Bolter arm: Humerus (upper arm bone) in a nearly parallel plane to the body. Radius & Ulna (forearm bones) straight at the elbow joint.

But a picture is worth a thousand words.






That Imperial fist pose reminds me fo the 2nd edition cover Blood angel, just missing a bolter instead of the pistol

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What's the thought on the deepkin box? Worth a purchase?
   
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 JohnnyHell wrote:
So comparing an arm straight out to one raised up with the shoulder part at an angle is a direct comparison. Ok. Riiight.

Funny how it looks perfectly fine and to scale on the 360s of the models. Nothing to see here.

Nah. It looks terrible, way too short, even if we account for bent arm his hand inside had to be curled into the fist to fit, and even then ends on knuckles, leaving no space for mechanisms to move actual power fist fingers. It's like someone chucked power fist from a decade old SM kit in there, I tried to compare it to other SM fists and the Mk III marines one seems to be actually longer and better proportioned than primaris fist. I also don't like how power cable is stupidly connected to elbow, a space that for obvious reasons should be empty, instead of being connected to the top of the arm or shoulder like the best SM looking fists. Yes, I know there are similar fists in very old kits, but they were made that way thanks to limitations in sprue technology, I wish GW just moved to shoulder port like in all new Terminators, but alas.
   
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The pose is VERY reminiscent of the cover of I am Slaughter.

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Honestly, now that it’s been pointed out, the arm does look short to me. It looks like they’ve taken an old mkvii arm and stuck it on the frame rather than design a new one. That’s a bit lame.

I shall have to do some surgery, perhaps involving the unbuilt Tartarus termies that I’ve got at home. Will see.
   
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They design this stuff in CAD. The power fist will have been modelled on top of a normal Primaris arm. It’s not too short,it’s an optical illusion.
   
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Not that interested in the Imperial Fist box.

I wish they'd made a Crimson Fist box instead.

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gilljoy wrote:
What's the thought on the deepkin box? Worth a purchase?


I have one on my Christmas list. I probably wouldn't buy the sharks separately but they look cool so this seems like a good way to get them with a bunch of other useful stuff.
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Not that interested in the Imperial Fist box.

I wish they'd made a Crimson Fist box instead.


The only difference really is the paint scheme. It even shows a crimson fist on the back of the box.
   
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 ImAGeek wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Not that interested in the Imperial Fist box.

I wish they'd made a Crimson Fist box instead.


The only difference really is the paint scheme. It even shows a crimson fist on the back of the box.

I was trying to work out if he was joking or not

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I really just wanted to make this exact model and I don't know what I would do if he turned out to be a smelly, one-legged frog with a shotgun p*nis.
I still don't understand the context of this phrase... but Slaanesh! 
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Not that interested in the Imperial Fist box.

I wish they'd made a Crimson Fist box instead.
The box does have a Crimson Fist on the back though. We aren't totally forgotten!

Unrelated to the topic, but it pleases me very much that Crimson Fists are getting their own Specialist Detachment in Vigilus Defiant.

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 Haighus wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Not that interested in the Imperial Fist box.

I wish they'd made a Crimson Fist box instead.


The only difference really is the paint scheme. It even shows a crimson fist on the back of the box.

I was trying to work out if he was joking or not


I did think that, yeah.
   
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That’s flying over a lot of heads

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Poe's law in action man.

We've encountered way too many times inn such foolishness that turned out the other guy was totally serious and moronic.

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Awwwwwww man! I’m with you; I’m gutted it’s not a Crimson Fist box set. I guess I’ll have to wait and see if they do a Crimson Fist sprue as well as an Imperial Fist one.

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My sarcasm detector took one look at this thread and said " it".

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gilljoy wrote:
What's the thought on the deepkin box? Worth a purchase?

Let me put it like this...
Are you starting Deepkin? Yes?

Then BUY THIS BOX.

It gives you basically everything you'll need for starting out. The Allopex might feel like a 'tax', but they're also $45USD each when purchased separately. Said Allopex are also the 'tax' unit for anyone wanting to run the Akhelian Warscroll Battalion or the one which is Sylvaneth and Deepkin.

If last year is anything to go by? We'll see a "Start Collecting" in January or February which will be a good pairing with this. It's interesting, to me personally, that they chose the Tidecaster to go with the Battleforce since her perk is "if she's your General" and it happens at the start of the game(she reverses the Tides of Death table). And I'd expect the Start Collecting to be 'themed' with a Soulrender and 1 of each type of Namarti.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
gilljoy wrote:
What's the thought on the deepkin box? Worth a purchase?

Let me put it like this...
Are you starting Deepkin? Yes?

Then BUY THIS BOX.

It gives you basically everything you'll need for starting out. The Allopex might feel like a 'tax', but they're also $45USD each when purchased separately. Said Allopex are also the 'tax' unit for anyone wanting to run the Akhelian Warscroll Battalion or the one which is Sylvaneth and Deepkin.

If last year is anything to go by? We'll see a "Start Collecting" in January or February which will be a good pairing with this. It's interesting, to me personally, that they chose the Tidecaster to go with the Battleforce since her perk is "if she's your General" and it happens at the start of the game(she reverses the Tides of Death table). And I'd expect the Start Collecting to be 'themed' with a Soulrender and 1 of each type of Namarti.


Hold on you can run a list that's both wood and sea elves? I'm all over that
   
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gilljoy wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
gilljoy wrote:
What's the thought on the deepkin box? Worth a purchase?

Let me put it like this...
Are you starting Deepkin? Yes?

Then BUY THIS BOX.

It gives you basically everything you'll need for starting out. The Allopex might feel like a 'tax', but they're also $45USD each when purchased separately. Said Allopex are also the 'tax' unit for anyone wanting to run the Akhelian Warscroll Battalion or the one which is Sylvaneth and Deepkin.

If last year is anything to go by? We'll see a "Start Collecting" in January or February which will be a good pairing with this. It's interesting, to me personally, that they chose the Tidecaster to go with the Battleforce since her perk is "if she's your General" and it happens at the start of the game(she reverses the Tides of Death table). And I'd expect the Start Collecting to be 'themed' with a Soulrender and 1 of each type of Namarti.


Hold on you can run a list that's both wood and sea elves? I'm all over that

There's a Warscroll Battalion in the Idoneth Deepkin book that is Sylvaneth(Tree side of things, not Wood Elf sadly...) and Deepkin. It grants the Sylvaneth Tides of Death as part of it, but it's kinda restrictive if I remember right.

Wanderers(Wood Elves) are able to ally with Idoneth though!
   
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Point costs can (and do) change with a single GHB. Just because the Allopex isn't cost effective now doesn't mean it won't be one of your best units next year, and then you would be sorry you didn't jump on the deal. That's why I never recommend buying based off of unit/army power. That metric is fluid. Buy what you want to build. It's better to buy an army than a list.

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 EnTyme wrote:
Point costs can (and do) change with a single GHB. Just because the Allopex isn't cost effective now doesn't mean it won't be one of your best units next year, and then you would be sorry you didn't jump on the deal. That's why I never recommend buying based off of unit/army power. That metric is fluid. Buy what you want to build. It's better to buy an army than a list.

The issue isn't the points with regards to Allopex, it's the weapons that the Allopex brings. They're effectively firing Reaver bows.
   
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If I want to start a deathwatch primaris force from scratch should I get one of each box or should I double up on one?

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Well you'll end up with a lot of Imperial Fist pads if you get that one. Do you want your DW to have a heavy Imperial/Crimson Fist slant?

   
 
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