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2024/05/08 15:02:40
Subject: Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
You can see the first part of the new paints HERE and the seond part HERE.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2024/05/08 16:39:29
Subject: Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
Ultramarine Blue appears like an odd choice to discontinue, but it may be duplicated under the Game Color line.
It's nice that they're updating the line while keeping it mostly the same, but while I still have a quite a lot of Model Colors that I use I've been replacing them with other paint lines as I run out. There's only a handful of colors I'll keep from the Model Color line, mostly just to color match my existing armies.
Kalamadea wrote: Ultramarine Blue appears like an odd choice to discontinue, but it may be duplicated under the Game Color line.
Spoiler:
It's also available in the Game Air and Hobby Paint lines. With both Model Color and Game Color using what should be the same formula, it's best to think of them as one paint line.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2024/05/08 18:27:54
Subject: Re:Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
Those are 3 VERY different hues of blues, I'm less concerned with what line they're sold under than I am with matching old paintjobs. I should probably try and find some more of the old Game Color Ultramarine Blue since that's the main color I used on mine, if I ever add to it. At least Andrea Blue is still in the new VMC line
Kalamadea wrote: Those are 3 VERY different hues of blues, I'm less concerned with what line they're sold under than I am with matching old paintjobs. I should probably try and find some more of the old Game Color Ultramarine Blue since that's the main color I used on mine, if I ever add to it. At least Andrea Blue is still in the new VMC line
Never go by the image online, especially one that's a digital image and not of the actual paint.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2024/05/08 19:38:10
Subject: Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
Yeah, I'll use a chart of colours to get an idea of the difference between two colours (which one is lighter, or a green that is more blue green vs yellow green). But there are so many factors trying to use a digital render of a colour as an actual colour isn't really workable.
2024/05/09 11:15:00
Subject: Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
RazorEdge wrote: Do we know when the new Model Colors get into retail?
Since your flag shows you are in Germany, they should already be available in Europe. It’s the US that’s been having problems getting the new paints. Michigan Toy Soldier Co. has some of the new colors on preorder with a June 5th release date and I believe Miniature Market has some on preorder as well.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2024/05/16 20:15:17
Subject: Re:Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
RazorEdge wrote: Do we know when the new Model Colors get into retail?
Theyre in the UK already, I ordered a bunch recently from wayland to try to grab duplicates of my fave old ones and half of what I got were the new ones.
2024/05/16 22:37:13
Subject: Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
Dawnbringer wrote: Yeah, I've found it hard sometimes to figure out if you are getting new or old ones for sure.
The easiest way that I've found is that the new paints are 18ml versus the 17ml of the old paints.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2024/05/17 08:02:17
Subject: Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
Dawnbringer wrote: Yeah, I've found it hard sometimes to figure out if you are getting new or old ones for sure.
The easiest way that I've found is that the new paints are 18ml versus the 17ml of the old paints.
I'd agree, but only if retailers are listing by such, and have it correctly listed.
Wayland for example, has the new Goblin Green, shows a picture as such, but still lists it as 17ml. I've noticed with several others as well, that in the list of colours they would have the old photo, but the item description would have the new one.
At this point I'd assume everything is new unless specifically shown to be old.
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2024/05/17 12:29:12
Subject: Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
Dawnbringer wrote: At this point I'd assume everything is new unless specifically shown to be old.
While that might work in the UK, here in the US where the new Model paints are just beginning to trickle into retail it's best to assume that they're the old paints unless specifically stated otherwise.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2024/05/18 07:39:09
Subject: Re:Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
Juan's 'Perfect' 50 paint set, featuring a number of the new Model Color paints:
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2024/05/25 17:13:22
Subject: Re:Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2024/05/25 18:17:33
Subject: Re:Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
Ghaz wrote: Stahly's review of the new Model Color paints
He really needs more Subs.
He doesn't get the love he should for all the work he does.
I love all his videos and breakdowns. I always get the feeling he takes this very seriously and expresses things so well even calling out issues with any brand.
Something is happening on the 24th, we sent you a poster.
2024/05/26 14:46:42
Subject: Re:Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
Stahly's one of the few bloggers/YouTubers with a genuinely professional, journalistic approach. It's also fair of him to mention the potential bubble issue with Vallejo paints, even though it's highly unlikely. I've made bubbly foam with their paints in the past, but it took a pretty wild combination of thinning, mixing, and vigorously thrashing a brush over rough surfaces.
2024/05/27 10:59:09
Subject: Re:Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
I've stopped buying the new Valejo Game Colors due to bubbling. I picked up a couple of paints to test the new formula and they all had the issue to a greater or lesser degree. Just shaking the bottle normally and putting it on a pallet.
Their express colors have the same issue, but I really love some of their tones there, and adding Contrast medium fixes it. I'm not going to use Contrast medium on regular acrylics, when I can just use AK instead.
Excellent review Stahly! The bubbling does seem like it could be an issue, but probably one easily avoided with a little bit of care. Not nearly as deal breaking as the reactivation Army Painter had.
Irdiumstern wrote: I've stopped buying the new Valejo Game Colors due to bubbling. I picked up a couple of paints to test the new formula and they all had the issue to a greater or lesser degree. Just shaking the bottle normally and putting it on a pallet.
Their express colors have the same issue, but I really love some of their tones there, and adding Contrast medium fixes it. I'm not going to use Contrast medium on regular acrylics, when I can just use AK instead.
Angel shows how much shaking the new Vallejo paints need (which is not much) at the 1:30 minute mark in this video
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2024/05/28 14:34:46
Subject: Re:Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
Snrub wrote: Excellent review Stahly! The bubbling does seem like it could be an issue, but probably one easily avoided with a little bit of care. Not nearly as deal breaking as the reactivation Army Painter had.
The main thing I liked about Vallejo Model Color was that I didn’t have to take the same care, lol.
I’ll need to buy one to try it, but I think the bubble issue would probably destroy the speed painting technique of loading up a big drybrush with paint and stabbing it at the model until you get a smooth coat.
I also wonder how they’ll go with regular drybrushing, bubbling usually means they’ve gone heavy on the surfactants so maybe that’s bad for drybrushing? Or maybe not? Not really sure.
The Model Color range needed an update due to the inconsistency… but a lot of the colours were fine and I wish they’d updated it more in keeping with what it was.
I might have a play with the AK paints to see if they behave more like the old model colors. I do own a couple of AK already, but mostly only the pastels which I haven’t used much.
2024/05/28 15:50:25
Subject: Re:Vallejo Paints - New Model Color Chart (pg. 20)
The whole point of hobby acrylics is paying for convenience. They should be grab and go, other than thinning it down to your own preference. If you have to make adjustments for its idiosyncrasies, you may as well buy artist acrylics and mix your own. Long term, it would be cheaper per ounce, if more time-consuming.
Also, are we just getting to the point where all paint ranges are becoming homogenous? Like, do we need EVERY paint range to be "base shade highlight" or whatever? My understanding was that Model Color was supposed to be a military history based colour palette, so surely it's not a range that needs that (historic modellers typically pick the colour that they think looks most historically/artistically accurate and then mix their own shades, highlights, scale effects, fading, etc).
AdMech (Main army)
Black Templars (original army)
Death Guard (lazy side project)
Imperial Knights (extension of AdMech)
Harlequins (fun side project)
