The significant increase of migrants illegally crossing into the United States has sparked growing concern, leading some officials to say the spike in apprehensions is turning into a humanitarian crisis.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection has reported 52,193 children apprehended between October 1, 2013, and June 15, 2014 -- an average of 205 children per day.

Fox News National Security Analyst KT McFarland spoke about the crisis with Fred Burton, a former U.S. State Department counterterrorism agent who currently serves as vice president of intelligence at Stratfor, a global intelligence firm.

Burton explained the number of border apprehensions so far in June has been 1,100 a day.

“We’re are probably about two, three weeks away from a larger group of illegals heading toward the Rio Grande valley,” said Burton. “The bulk of these children, as well as [adult] females and males, are from Central America.”

This has border officials worried that they could be overwhelmed by the influx of people trying to cross.

“They are learning if you make your way to the border now you are literally going to have a free pass into the United States,” Burton told McFarland.

One law enforcement official told Burton Friday “many of these individuals in numbers of 50 to 100 are crossing the Rio Grande River into the United States and just waiting for the U.S. border control to pick them up.”

Critics have blasted the federal government for weak border controls along the southern border. This has the potential, Burton says, to hurt U.S. national security.

“We have absolutely no idea how many others [not appended] are getting through,” said Burton. “The influx of these large volumes of migrants is causing resources to draw away from the issues … like counter-terrorism [surveillance].”

 Jihadin wrote:

The significant increase of migrants illegally crossing into the United States has sparked growing concern, leading some officials to say the spike in apprehensions is turning into a humanitarian crisis.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection has reported 52,193 children apprehended between October 1, 2013, and June 15, 2014 -- an average of 205 children per day.

Fox News National Security Analyst KT McFarland spoke about the crisis with Fred Burton, a former U.S. State Department counterterrorism agent who currently serves as vice president of intelligence at Stratfor, a global intelligence firm.

Burton explained the number of border apprehensions so far in June has been 1,100 a day.

“We’re are probably about two, three weeks away from a larger group of illegals heading toward the Rio Grande valley,” said Burton. “The bulk of these children, as well as [adult] females and males, are from Central America.”

This has border officials worried that they could be overwhelmed by the influx of people trying to cross.

“They are learning if you make your way to the border now you are literally going to have a free pass into the United States,” Burton told McFarland.

One law enforcement official told Burton Friday “many of these individuals in numbers of 50 to 100 are crossing the Rio Grande River into the United States and just waiting for the U.S. border control to pick them up.”

Critics have blasted the federal government for weak border controls along the southern border. This has the potential, Burton says, to hurt U.S. national security.

“We have absolutely no idea how many others [not appended] are getting through,” said Burton. “The influx of these large volumes of migrants is causing resources to draw away from the issues … like counter-terrorism [surveillance].”

Yep I pulled the trigger on Immigration. Past two weeks its the elephant in the room we seem to be ignoring
The "Free Pass" is true

 Jihadin wrote:

 44Ronin wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:

The significant increase of migrants illegally crossing into the United States has sparked growing concern, leading some officials to say the spike in apprehensions is turning into a humanitarian crisis.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection has reported 52,193 children apprehended between October 1, 2013, and June 15, 2014 -- an average of 205 children per day.

Fox News National Security Analyst KT McFarland spoke about the crisis with Fred Burton, a former U.S. State Department counterterrorism agent who currently serves as vice president of intelligence at Stratfor, a global intelligence firm.

Burton explained the number of border apprehensions so far in June has been 1,100 a day.

“We’re are probably about two, three weeks away from a larger group of illegals heading toward the Rio Grande valley,” said Burton. “The bulk of these children, as well as [adult] females and males, are from Central America.”

This has border officials worried that they could be overwhelmed by the influx of people trying to cross.

“They are learning if you make your way to the border now you are literally going to have a free pass into the United States,” Burton told McFarland.

One law enforcement official told Burton Friday “many of these individuals in numbers of 50 to 100 are crossing the Rio Grande River into the United States and just waiting for the U.S. border control to pick them up.”

Critics have blasted the federal government for weak border controls along the southern border. This has the potential, Burton says, to hurt U.S. national security.

“We have absolutely no idea how many others [not appended] are getting through,” said Burton. “The influx of these large volumes of migrants is causing resources to draw away from the issues … like counter-terrorism [surveillance].”

Yep I pulled the trigger on Immigration. Past two weeks its the elephant in the room we seem to be ignoring
The "Free Pass" is true

Haha

 44Ronin wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:

 44Ronin wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:

The significant increase of migrants illegally crossing into the United States has sparked growing concern, leading some officials to say the spike in apprehensions is turning into a humanitarian crisis.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection has reported 52,193 children apprehended between October 1, 2013, and June 15, 2014 -- an average of 205 children per day.

Fox News National Security Analyst KT McFarland spoke about the crisis with Fred Burton, a former U.S. State Department counterterrorism agent who currently serves as vice president of intelligence at Stratfor, a global intelligence firm.

Burton explained the number of border apprehensions so far in June has been 1,100 a day.

“We’re are probably about two, three weeks away from a larger group of illegals heading toward the Rio Grande valley,” said Burton. “The bulk of these children, as well as [adult] females and males, are from Central America.”

This has border officials worried that they could be overwhelmed by the influx of people trying to cross.

“They are learning if you make your way to the border now you are literally going to have a free pass into the United States,” Burton told McFarland.

One law enforcement official told Burton Friday “many of these individuals in numbers of 50 to 100 are crossing the Rio Grande River into the United States and just waiting for the U.S. border control to pick them up.”

Critics have blasted the federal government for weak border controls along the southern border. This has the potential, Burton says, to hurt U.S. national security.

“We have absolutely no idea how many others [not appended] are getting through,” said Burton. “The influx of these large volumes of migrants is causing resources to draw away from the issues … like counter-terrorism [surveillance].”

Yep I pulled the trigger on Immigration. Past two weeks its the elephant in the room we seem to be ignoring
The "Free Pass" is true

Haha

People from Mehico' are crossing back to the land that was stolen from Mexicans by Americans, which was originally stolen from Native Americans

I really feel your pain and sympathise with you

Let's start a hastag campaign for 1st world problems

#stopthesubhumanscrossingourborder

 motyak wrote:
Hey, at least it isn't boat people. They'll destroy your country from the inside out, what with their free houses and cars and all their centrelink money and their free citizenship and free medicine and free ride for the rest of their life in a golden hall while good, hard working Australians have to fight for their scraps at the foot of the table.

Man am I proud of my country /sarcasm

 44Ronin wrote:


People from Mehico' are crossing back to the land that was stolen from Mexicans by Americans, which was originally stolen from Native Americans

I really feel your pain and sympathise with you

Let's start a hastag campaign for 1st world problems

#stopthesubhumanscrossingourborder

 motyak wrote:
Hey, at least it isn't boat people. They'll destroy your country from the inside out, what with their free houses and cars and all their centrelink money and their free citizenship and free medicine and free ride for the rest of their life in a golden hall while good, hard working Australians have to fight for their scraps at the foot of the table.

Man am I proud of my country /sarcasm

 44Ronin wrote:
People from Mehico' are crossing back to the land that was stolen from Mexicans by Americans, which was originally stolen from Native Americans

 sebster wrote:

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 44Ronin wrote:
People from Mehico' are crossing back to the land that was stolen from Mexicans by Americans, which was originally stolen from Native Americans

What the hell?

First up, trying to drag up centuries old border changes as a means to justify anything happening today makes no sense.

Bullockist wrote:

 motyak wrote:
Hey, at least it isn't boat people. They'll destroy your country from the inside out, what with their free houses and cars and all their centrelink money and their free citizenship and free medicine and free ride for the rest of their life in a golden hall while good, hard working Australians have to fight for their scraps at the foot of the table.

Man am I proud of my country /sarcasm

You know what the real problem with boat people and what Tony Abbot is trying to solve? Boat shoes! These items of foot ware are a travesty and the only way to stop good hard working Australians from wearing them is to stop the import via boat people.

As a proud member of AABS (Australians Against Boat Shoes) I will vote for him (and only him) next election.

Just look at these abominations, they only look worse when coupled with skinny jeans and no socks



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 44Ronin wrote:


People from Mehico' are crossing back to the land that was stolen from Mexicans by Americans, which was originally stolen from Native Americans

I really feel your pain and sympathise with you

Let's start a hastag campaign for 1st world problems

#stopthesubhumanscrossingourborder

#stopstupidclaimsbeingmade

Who did the American Indians steal the land from, and before them who stole the land from the previous occupants? Making out like the only wave of colonisation that ever happened was post 1500 is stupid, really stupid. People have been stealing land since the dawn of time. No original inhabitants exist , next you'll be saying we have to hand everything back to the neanderthals. It is impossible to determine who are the 'original' inhabitants - it's too far back to determine.
It's pure white hubris to suggest history in the "new world" started with white peoples arrival.

Next you'll start banging on about noble savages.

 44Ronin wrote:


System check ok
Overprivileged Guilt avoidance mechanisms enable
Arming irrelevant rambling excuses
FIRE!

 daedalus wrote:

 44Ronin wrote:


System check ok
Overprivileged Guilt avoidance mechanisms enable
Arming irrelevant rambling excuses
FIRE!

Didn't you descend from people who stole your country from the Aborigines after getting run out of England for being criminal or morally bereft?

 daedalus wrote:

 44Ronin wrote:


System check ok
Overprivileged Guilt avoidance mechanisms enable
Arming irrelevant rambling excuses
FIRE!

Didn't you descend from people who stole your country from the Aborigines after getting run out of England for being criminal or morally bereft?

Bullockist wrote:


Who did the American Indians steal the land from, and before them who stole the land from the previous occupants? Making out like the only wave of colonisation that ever happened was post 1500 is stupid, really stupid. People have been stealing land since the dawn of time. No original inhabitants exist , next you'll be saying we have to hand everything back to the neanderthals. It is impossible to determine who are the 'original' inhabitants - it's too far back to determine.
It's pure white hubris to suggest history in the "new world" started with white peoples arrival.

Next you'll start banging on about noble savages.

Relapse wrote:

Bullockist wrote:


Who did the American Indians steal the land from, and before them who stole the land from the previous occupants? Making out like the only wave of colonisation that ever happened was post 1500 is stupid, really stupid. People have been stealing land since the dawn of time. No original inhabitants exist , next you'll be saying we have to hand everything back to the neanderthals. It is impossible to determine who are the 'original' inhabitants - it's too far back to determine.
It's pure white hubris to suggest history in the "new world" started with white peoples arrival.

Next you'll start banging on about noble savages.

You are correct, sir. The Navajoes and Hopis were pissed at each other a few years back because one tribe was gathering Owls for ceremonies on the other's land. The Hopis were bithching about the "newcomer Navajoes", coming in centuries ago and taking over land the Hopis owned. I don't know how many times the Black Hills changed hands due to tribal wars before white men appeared on the scene.
The Aztecs were noted sweethearts on the social scene down in Mexico long before Cortez arrived. These are just a few examples I have time to mention.
There is no monopoly on land being taken or abuse of a conquered people. The only difference was technology level.

 44Ronin wrote:

 daedalus wrote:


Didn't you descend from people who stole your country from the Aborigines after getting run out of England for being criminal or morally bereft?

No.

But I think reverse colonialism is HILARIOUS.

I love to see overprivileged people cry about illegal aliens. Always.

Are you guys competing for that toilet cleaning job?

 sebster wrote:

 motyak wrote:
Hey, at least it isn't boat people. They'll destroy your country from the inside out, what with their free houses and cars and all their centrelink money and their free citizenship and free medicine and free ride for the rest of their life in a golden hall while good, hard working Australians have to fight for their scraps at the foot of the table.

Man am I proud of my country /sarcasm

Heh. When it comes to illegal immigration the US debate is downright sensible compared to the nonsense in Australia.


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 44Ronin wrote:
People from Mehico' are crossing back to the land that was stolen from Mexicans by Americans, which was originally stolen from Native Americans

What the hell?

First up, trying to drag up centuries old border changes as a means to justify anything happening today makes no sense.

Second up, not every Mexican belongs to the same family. The people crossing the border today aren't descendants of the Mexicans living in areas that the US expanded in to.

 motyak wrote:
Hey, at least it isn't boat people. They'll destroy your country from the inside out, what with their free houses and cars and all their centrelink money and their free citizenship and free medicine and free ride for the rest of their life in a golden hall while good, hard working Australians have to fight for their scraps at the foot of the table.

Man am I proud of my country /sarcasm

A study released by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) estimates that illegal immigration now costs federal and local taxpayers $113 billion a year. The report, The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on U.S. Taxpayers, is the most comprehensive analysis of how much the estimated 13 million illegal aliens and their U.S.-born children cost the federal, state and local governments
The cost estimates are based on an extensive analysis of federal, state and local spending data. The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on U.S. Taxpayers examines dozens of government programs that are available to illegal aliens and their U.S.-born children, both legally and fraudulently. The report provides detailed analysis of the impact of illegal immigration on education, health care, law enforcement and justice, public assistance, and other government programs.

The report also accounts for taxes paid by illegal aliens about $13 billion a year, resulting in a net cost to taxpayers of about $100 billion. However, the study notes that government at all levels would likely have realized significantly greater revenues if jobs held by illegal aliens had been filled by legal U.S. residents instead.
Federal spending on illegal aliens amounts to $29 billion, finds Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on U.S. Taxpayers. The lion’s share of the costs of illegal immigration is borne by state and local taxpayers an estimated $84.2 billion. In 18 states, expenditures on illegal aliens exceeded the size of those states’ budget deficits in FY 2009.

Among the key findings of The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on U.S. Taxpayers:

The $113 billion in outlays for services and benefits to illegal aliens and their families represents an average cost to native-headed households of $1,117 a year. Because the burdens of illegal immigration are not evenly distributed, the costs are much higher in states with large illegal alien populations.
Education for the children of illegal aliens represents the single largest public expenditure at an annual cost of $52 billion. Nearly all of that cost is absorbed by state and local governments.
The federal government recoups about one-third of its share of the costs of illegal immigration in the form of taxes collected. States, which bear a much greater share of the costs, recoup a mere 5 percent of their expenditures from taxes paid by illegal aliens.
Granting amnesty to illegal aliens, as President Obama and others propose, would not significantly increase tax revenues generated by current illegal aliens. However, over time, amnesty would dramatically increase public costs as newly-legalized aliens become eligible for all means-tested government programs.
Arizona’s annual cost of illegal immigration is $2.5 billion.
“The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on U.S. Taxpayers provides a definitive response to the question of whether illegal aliens are a net benefit or a net drain on government coffers,” stated Dan Stein president of FAIR. “The report examines virtually every federal, state and local government program to determine the impact of illegal immigration on the bottom line. That bottom line $113 billion a year, and growing makes our nation’s failure to control illegal immigration one of the largest preventable burdens borne by American taxpayers.”

“If political leaders in Washington and state capitals want to understand why the American public is demanding enforcement of our immigration laws, The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on U.S. Taxpayers, provides 113 billion good reasons,” Stein concluded.

In hosting America's largest population of illegal immigrants, California bears a huge cost to provide basic human services for this fast growing, low-income segment of its population. A new study from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) examines the costs of education, health care and incarceration of illegal aliens, and concludes that the costs to Californians is $10.5 billion per year.

Among the key finding of the report are that the state's already struggling K-12 education system spends approximately $7.7 billion a year to school the children of illegal aliens who now constitute 15 percent of the student body. Another $1.4 billion of the taxpayers' money goes toward providing health care to illegal aliens and their families, the same amount that is spent incarcerating illegal aliens criminals.

"California's addiction to 'cheap' illegal alien labor is bankrupting the state and posing enormous burdens on the state's shrinking middle class tax base," stated Dan Stein, President of FAIR. "Most Californians, who have seen their taxes increase while public services deteriorate, already know the impact that mass illegal immigration is having on their communities, but even they may be shocked when they learn just how much of a drain illegal immigration has become."

The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Californians focuses on three specific program areas because those were the costs examined by researchers from the Urban Institute in 1994. Looking at the costs of education, health care and incarceration for illegal aliens in 1994, the Urban Institute estimated that California was subsidizing illegal immigrants to the tune of about $1.1 billion. The enormous rise in the costs of illegal immigrants over the intervening ten years is due to the rapid growth in illegal residents. It is reasonable to expect those costs to continue to soar if action is not taken to turn the tide.

"Nineteen ninety-four was the same year that California voters rebelled and overwhelmingly passed Proposition 187, which sought to limit liability for mass illegal immigration. Since then, state and local governments have blatantly ignored the wishes of the voters and continued to shell out publicly financed benefits on illegal aliens," said Stein. "Predictably, the costs of illegal immigration have grown geometrically, while the state has spiraled into a fiscal crisis that has brought it near bankruptcy.

"Nothing could more starkly illustrate the very high costs of ‘cheap labor' than California's current situation," continued Stein. "A small number of powerful interests in the state reap the benefits, while the average native-born family in California gets handed a nearly $1,200 a year bill."

The Federation for American Immigration Reform is a nonprofit, public-interest, membership organization advocating immigration policy reforms that would tighten border security and prevent illegal immigration, while reducing legal immigration levels from about 1.1 million persons per year to 300,000 per year.

Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.

A key finding of the report by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) said the state’s already struggling kindergarten-through-12th-grade education system spends $7.7 billion a year on children of illegal aliens, who constitute 15 percent of the student body.

The report also said the incarceration of convicted illegal aliens in state prisons and jails and uncompensated medical outlays for health care provided to illegal aliens each amounted to about $1.4 billion annually. The incarceration costs did not include judicial expenditures or the monetary costs of the crimes committed by illegal aliens that led to their incarceration.

“California’s addiction to ‘cheap’ illegal-alien labor is bankrupting the state and posing enormous burdens on the state’s shrinking middle-class tax base,” said FAIR President Dan Stein.

“Most Californians, who have seen their taxes increase while public services deteriorate, already know the impact that mass illegal immigration is having on their communities, but even they may be shocked when they learn just how much of a drain illegal immigration has become,” he said.

California is estimated to be home to nearly 3 million illegal aliens.

Mr. Stein noted that state and local taxes paid by the unauthorized immigrant population go toward offsetting these costs, but do not match expenses. The total of such payments was estimated in the report to be about $1.6 billion per year.

He also said the total cost of illegal immigration to the state’s taxpayers would be considerably higher if other cost areas, such as special English instruction, school meal programs or welfare benefits for American workers displaced by illegal-alien workers were added into the equation.

Gerardo Gonzalez, director of the National Latino Research Center at California State at San Marcos, which compiles data on Hispanics, was critical of FAIR’s report yesterday. He said FAIR’s estimates did not measure some of the contributions that illegal aliens make to the state’s economy.

“Beyond taxes, these workers’ production and spending contribute to California’s economy, especially the agricultural sector,” he said, adding that both legal and illegal aliens are the “backbone” of the state’s $28 billion-a-year agricultural industry.

In August, a similar study by the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, said U.S. households headed by illegal aliens used $26.3 billion in government services during 2002, but paid $16 billion in taxes, an annual cost to taxpayers of $10 billion.

The FAIR report focused on three specific program areas because those were the costs examined by researchers from the Urban Institute in 1994, Mr. Stein said. Looking at the costs of education, health care and incarceration for illegal aliens in 1994, the Urban Institute estimated that California was subsidizing illegal immigrants at about $1.1 billion a year.

Mr. Stein said an enormous rise in the costs of illegal immigrants in 10 years is because of the rapid growth of the illegal population. He said it is reasonable to expect those costs to continue to soar if action is not taken to turn the tide.

“1994 was the same year that California voters rebelled and overwhelmingly passed Proposition 187, which sought to limit liability for mass illegal immigration,” he said. “Since then, state and local governments have blatantly ignored the wishes of the voters and continued to shell out publicly financed benefits on illegal aliens.

“Predictably, the costs of illegal immigration have grown geometrically, while the state has spiraled into a fiscal crisis that has brought it near bankruptcy,” he said.
Mr. Stein said that the state must adopt measures to systematically collect information on illegal-alien use of taxpayer-funded services and on where they are employed, and that policies need to be pursued to hold employers financially accountable.

Executive Summary
DHS
This study is one of the first to estimate the total impact of illegal immigration on the federal budget. Most previous studies have focused on the state and local level and have examined only costs or tax payments, but not both. Based on Census Bureau data, this study finds that, when all taxes paid (direct and indirect) and all costs are considered, illegal households created a net fiscal deficit at the federal level of more than $10 billion in 2002. We also estimate that, if there was an amnesty for illegal aliens, the net fiscal deficit would grow to nearly $29 billion.

Among the findings:

Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.
Among the largest costs are Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches ($1.9 billion); the federal prison and court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion).
With nearly two-thirds of illegal aliens lacking a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, not their legal status or heavy use of most social services.
On average, the costs that illegal households impose on federal coffers are less than half that of other households, but their tax payments are only one-fourth that of other households.
Many of the costs associated with illegals are due to their American-born children, who are awarded U.S. citizenship at birth. Thus, greater efforts at barring illegals from federal programs will not reduce costs because their citizen children can continue to access them.
If illegal aliens were given amnesty and began to pay taxes and use services like households headed by legal immigrants with the same education levels, the estimated annual net fiscal deficit would increase from $2,700 per household to nearly $7,700, for a total net cost of $29 billion.
Costs increase dramatically because unskilled immigrants with legal status -- what most illegal aliens would become -- can access government programs, but still tend to make very modest tax payments.
Although legalization would increase average tax payments by 77 percent, average costs would rise by 118 percent.
The fact that legal immigrants with few years of schooling are a large fiscal drain does not mean that legal immigrants overall are a net drain -- many legal immigrants are highly skilled.
The vast majority of illegals hold jobs. Thus the fiscal deficit they create for the federal government is not the result of an unwillingness to work.
The results of this study are consistent with a 1997 study by the National Research Council, which also found that immigrants' education level is a key determinant of their fiscal impact.

 44Ronin wrote:
I guess you are one of those people who completely missed the point of the Melian dialogue in Thucydides, like Machiavelli.

yellowfever wrote:
Correct new if I'm wrong. Not trying to be a smart ass. But didn't Mexico lose the land in a war with America.

 daedalus wrote:
It's only really reverse colonialism if you conflate people by their color, and not culture. Chicago, for example, is known to be a large point of confluence of illegal immigrants, and I doubt that any of them are from any of the tribes that were native to the area. That's about as much reverse colonialism as if the Moors were to illegally immigrate to Sweeden because, hey, they once occupied part of Spain and it's all Europe after all, right?