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As the title says....
I just played a 2v3 total 4500pts a side. The opposing team brought out a lot of their "toys"...you know the nice and shiny guys. Some were ok units and some not so much. As each unit went flying off the board, they would get more and more angry. Long story short, can't stand those "wargamers" that are sore ass losers! For gods sake it's a toy solider game and in the end someone has to lose...

Mr Raynor

There are people that suck at loosing, they are pains in the ass when life gives them lemons and it is sad. All I can say is try to make them have fun if they are against fun then suffer through and keep in mind not to play them again.

What did your side consist of?

And how did you behave while winning?

Something something something 40k has gak game balance something something something...

We decided to throw the whole allies thing out the window so we could all participate and have "hun." So it was Chaos, Tau, & Daemons vs White Scars, Iyanden, and Tau. Three 1500pts armies and honestly both of mine were themed except for the stormraven. One of the Chaos guys had a themed Korn army, the other Tcheetcz, and the Tau players brought the typical.

Started going down hill when Khan killed a Daemon Prince by instant killing him. Both parties messed up the monstrous creature charging through cover rule and the daemon prince went at Int 1 failed two armor saves and was killed. After the end of the turn the guy got upset because we didn't know the rule but said ok lets just move on. (Secretly he didn't move on) he started to question everything I was doing as if I was trying to cheat. Simple rules like what are amour saves and the such. My teammate and I were talking together about startegy and the other players ask me to leave him alone and play by myself (you know not like teammates....)

Poor sportsmanship is just uncalled for and shows your immaturity....

Yeah that sucks. Hate when you have to play poor sports. Ruins the mood and the game.

 Malik_Raynor wrote:
Both parties messed up the monstrous creature charging through cover rule and the daemon prince went at Int 1

Explain how this is messed up?

Dunno, sounds like you should have reminded him about the Init 1 thing and asked if he was sure he wanted to go for it.

Sportsmanship works both ways, and ESPECIALLY in 40k you need to remind people about these stupid, stupid rules in order to have fun.

I usually like to win by having the better strategy, not a better grasp of the rules (though I do like to be better at it!).

I do like reminding others of rules even ones that help them, gives a more collaborative feel to a game without giving away your plans.

Losing sucks but I usually just change my goals to give that final "black eye" if it goes south.

Really try to get my opponent to try that when it goes bad for them early.

Really like to try to get a close game, funny though, facing a net list I channel my inner evil and go for the throat (you will get few chances).

Ah well, happens.

If they are nasty pieces of work consistently, you know to find others.

Unless someone turned up with some kick ass death star list to a friendly game I wouldn't give too hoots about losing, in fact my regular opponent is Tau and my Vanilla Marines spend most of their lives being flattened under unrelenting pulse rifle fire.

I play to play, not to win.

The game is less about winning and losing than ever. Once people get over a certain bar of competency, winning and losing is determined by luck.

This edition makes the stuff that goes on between the start of the game and the outcome more exciting. As soon as people come to accept that, the less likely they are to care about winning and losing, and care more about having fun.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
The game is less about winning and losing than ever. Once people get over a certain bar of competency, winning and losing is determined by luck..

? is that not what happens in a balanced game. Two competent players so the end result is either the one with luck or the one that makes that slight mistake.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
The game is less about winning and losing than ever. Once people get over a certain bar of competency, winning and losing is determined by luck.

This edition makes the stuff that goes on between the start of the game and the outcome more exciting. As soon as people come to accept that, the less likely they are to care about winning and losing, and care more about having fun.

Then what's the real point of playing the game if its just settled by luck. At that point I'd rather have two machines play the game and watch from the sidelines (and rig the two of them as I pound down a third army just as planned )

I fond that people used to winning often get crabby when they finally get pulled of their thrones. I once saw a guy nearly bust a vein holding back his temper after I killed his riptide

I've been frustrated before when playing a TT game, everyone has been. But generally I just love to play a game every now an then, and with my gakky work schedule I have to soak up game time even more now, so no time to be pissy over something.

Although, my last game with my AM I ran an arty heavy list...by and large pretty meh. 1250 point game and I lost one chimera to a dakkafex. My buddy was a good sport but you could see the defeat in his body language by the end of turn three, kept up the good spirits though because gak, it's a game in the end.

 StarTrotter wrote:

Then what's the real point of playing the game

If you don't understand what the point of playing the game is, you're one of the people I was referring to who needs to understand what I said.

40k is not balanced, equal points does not equal forces.

The vast majority of what counts in the game is governed by random rolling.

TFG's are drawn to the game because they can beat "veterans" and feel like a great tactician. Any other more "balanced" or "competitive" game this does not happen with near the frequency.

So yes, those who field those "cave face" armies do tend to get their knickers in a knot when they lose because it means that much more to them. Being accustomed to playing the latest net list makes them feel like a predator among victims = smug sooooo... always great to field one of your more powerful lists on occasion to let these people know they are not fooling anyone.

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
I fond that people used to winning often get crabby when they finally get pulled of their thrones. I once saw a guy nearly bust a vein holding back his temper after I killed his riptide

I think its rather how often people play.

If a guy plays a game every couple months, he will place more value on winning than a guy who plays a game every week because the latter has literally played (and will play) so many games that winning or losing is no longer top priority for him, rather having fun with friends.

But that guy who spent all those weeks planning his armylist and marking his game day on his calendar? Yeah, that guy will be a bad sport.

I would of reminded him about the rule if I new the rule about Monstrous Creatures having the "Move through Cover" special rule. And I was helping them both ways, helping remember rules that would benefit and not benefit them at the same time. I'm one of those guys that I invite players over and give the hardy handshake. I like having fun and I'm also determined to sell of all of my models if I start to turn into a player that gets really upset over a toy solider game. Good sportsmanship goes a long way to a solid gaming group and i know that two of the three opposing team members will never be invited back again.

So a guy loses his center pice models, because of not knowing the rules, and then you wonder why he asks question every time he isn't sure you aren't cheating or he isn't doing something wrong? Seems like a normal reaction to me.

And It is kind of a normal that he didn't want to take back, taking back a 4500pts turns is probably 20 min lost and you wouldn't even know for sure where stuff was actualy standing etc.

I had something like that last game with a veteran nid player that came back in 7th. He had 3 tyrants and tried to alfa strike me with them , what he forgot was that his dakka tyrants only re-roll to hit now . He lost 3 of them on turn 3, after that he was questioning any special rule or asked to show it to him in a rulebook or faq print. What followed was 15 talk , why FAQ that aren't on the GW site are still the legal ones.

So now you are telling me that's it's ok for both of them to accuse me of cheating because we both didn't know rules??? Sounds like a ridiculous reaction to me and sounds like you can be like one of those gamers? It's neither of our faults we didn't know rules and I asked him if he wanted to replay that portion to get it right. Making sure the rules are played correctly thereafter is one thing but accusing the other players of cheating is wrong. We both didn't know so we should both learn from it...not blame the other player like they thought i did it intentionally. All players involved shouldn't have to learn the other teams armies to make sure they know how to play. Sorry I can't memorize every players codices

There's cheating, and there's mis-remembering the convoluted mess of rules that is 40k.
Especially just after a rules-update.

I'm the annoying sort who will let someone plan their moves, declare their action, and only then point out that it'll go badly if the rules are like 'this'. Then there''s a lot of flicking through the book, and we just let it go ahead anyway.

tiger g wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:
The game is less about winning and losing than ever. Once people get over a certain bar of competency, winning and losing is determined by luck..

? is that not what happens in a balanced game. Two competent players so the end result is either the one with luck or the one that makes that slight mistake.

40k isn't a balanced game.