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Well, since no one is talking about Necrons anymore, and this thread is over 200 pages and wave 1 is over, I think we can lock this one down.

Thanks very much for the amazing post maintenance Kroot! We can start up again when wave 2 stuff starts cropping up!

unlocked for Kroot!

Just wanted to repost the current rumours of the second wave, expected for March or February(also added to the first post):

75hastings69 wrote:Couldn't see this on the thread (although I didn't go through every page!) early next year youll be getting a second wave of necrons - entries in the codex not covered by this release, 4 vehicles, a walker and 2 aircraft, also new tomb spiders IIRC.
Can't recall of the top of my head about the vehicles, the walker Artwork shows a large spider with a necRon driver and scorpion tail over the head blaster type thing.

Another confirmation by him (on Wraiths and Tomb Spyders):

75hastings69 wrote:I've already posted on the necron rumour thread that these items will be part of the second wave on necron models released early next year. The jetbike type necrons are also amongst the new kits.

Captain Ventris wrote:Recieved information/rumors today. As stated by Dr.Pie himself the wave 2 is planned. Was told it will arrive late feb./early march and will be the following kits:

- Doom/Night scythe (plastic kit) 1 model
- Canoptic Wraiths/Spyders (Plastic kit) 3 models
- Iluminor Szeras (Finecast) 1 model
- Anrakyr the Traveler (Finecast) 1 model

Also release of a Battleforce consisting of the following:

- 16 warriors
- 4 scarab bases
- 5 Immortals/Deathmarks
- 1 Ghost/Doom ark

Take with salt as I always do...

Tomb blades and Triarch Stalker are missing from that list, but Hastings said a whle ago that they will come with the same wave.

Thanks Kroot! Thread will stay open, but stay ot people -

Battleforce looks lame.

- 16 warriors
- 4 scarab bases
- 5 Immortals/Deathmarks
- 1 Ghost/Doom ark

All this shiny new plastic, and that's the best they can do?

Would be pretty darned quick to release a battleforce, wouldn't it? How long did it take for the DE & BA to get theirs?

Breotan wrote:Would be pretty darned quick to release a battleforce, wouldn't it? How long did it take for the DE & BA to get theirs?

Almost a year wasn't it? Where's the GK battleforce?

Looking forward to Wave 2. Its a shame Tomb Blades aren't part of the rumors or Triarch Stalkers. I'm really excited to see those as models.

Red Comet wrote:Looking forward to Wave 2. Its a shame Tomb Blades aren't part of the rumors or Triarch Stalkers.

They are.
Although there are also nice non-GW alternatives.

Where is Orikon the Diviner?

3 Wraiths in one box is a steal considering how beastly they are. Here's to hoping they're not as much as a Land Raider.

Kroothawk wrote:

Red Comet wrote:Looking forward to Wave 2. Its a shame Tomb Blades aren't part of the rumors or Triarch Stalkers.

They are.
Although there are also nice non-GW alternatives.

Oh now I see it. This is good news indeed then.

I would love to get my hands on a Second wave so soon!

Samus_aran115 wrote:Battleforce looks lame.

- 16 warriors
- 4 scarab bases
- 5 Immortals/Deathmarks
- 1 Ghost/Doom ark

All this shiny new plastic, and that's the best they can do?

Warriors / Scarabs - $33
Immortals - $33
Ghost Ark - $50

That comes right out to the average battleforce of $110, except you get 4 extra warriors and an extra scarab base. ($11 value if you divide the current warrior box by three)

Mathematically it makes sense..... i guess?

I have serious doubts about a 3-pack of Wraiths/Spyders, considering the cost & play value of those units. When compared to other prices like Immortals/Deathmarks or Flayed Ones, that Wraith/Spyder box would have to cost as much as a Land Raider.

fursphere wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Battleforce looks lame.

- 16 warriors
- 4 scarab bases
- 5 Immortals/Deathmarks
- 1 Ghost/Doom ark

All this shiny new plastic, and that's the best they can do?

Warriors / Scarabs - $33
Immortals - $33
Ghost Ark - $50

That comes right out to the average battleforce of $110, except you get 4 extra warriors and an extra scarab base. ($11 value if you divide the current warrior box by three)

Mathematically it makes sense..... i guess?

It makes sense from a savings point of view, but from a practical use point of view, it leaves something to be desired.

That's my opinion, anyway. I bet a lot of people are more than excited about something that just buffs up their army, as opposed to giving them some decent bits. If you already have a plethora of special things, this battleforce is a great way to bolster your army.

azazel the cat wrote:I have serious doubts about a 3-pack of Wraiths/Spyders, considering the cost & play value of those units. When compared to other prices like Immortals/Deathmarks or Flayed Ones, that Wraith/Spyder box would have to cost as much as a Land Raider.

I think it's quite possible, it will probably be priced around the new VC 3-model kit (50$) Takes 200 dollars to get two full units of wraiths, more if you want some spyders. Seems about right to me.

I'm hoping the Nightscythe/Doomscythe are around CCB prices, and not Ghost Ark prices.

- 16 warriors
- 4 scarab bases
- 5 Immortals/Deathmarks
- 1 Ghost/Doom ark

All this shiny new plastic, and that's the best they can do?

I kinda feel the same way, but buy that Battleforce and a box of Lychguard/Praetorians and you can convert yourself Overlords, Lords, Crypteks (all without touching any greenstuff). If you feel like skulpting a little bit, you can also make some old-school wraiths, too.

Sasori wrote:


I'm hoping the Nightscythe/Doomscythe are around CCB prices, and not Ghost Ark prices.

I'm actually hoping that they are smaller than the CCB... maybe 2 in a box for the Ghost Ark prices. It's not something that GW has really done before, but I can hold out a little hope (even if I'm not holding my breath).

The illustrations in the codex show that the Night/Doom Scythes are definitely larger than a Catacomb Command Barge and I would be very surprised if its not priced the same as the Dark Eldar flyer.

Sasori wrote:

azazel the cat wrote:I have serious doubts about a 3-pack of Wraiths/Spyders, considering the cost & play value of those units. When compared to other prices like Immortals/Deathmarks or Flayed Ones, that Wraith/Spyder box would have to cost as much as a Land Raider.

I think it's quite possible, it will probably be priced around the new VC 3-model kit (50$) Takes 200 dollars to get two full units of wraiths, more if you want some spyders. Seems about right to me.

I'm hoping the Nightscythe/Doomscythe are around CCB prices, and not Ghost Ark prices.

Your futile hope is delicious, my friend.

I think we both know that the Nightscythe/Doomscythe will be priced exactly like the Ghost/Doomsday Ark: you can have either a transport or a tank, but either way you're paying for a really expensive tank.

Also, I have a feeling that Triarch Stalkers will never actually have models made, just because it's the only new vehicle that isn't an either/or choice like the Scythes or the Arks or Barges. I expect this to be the new trend amongst all the new codices, just because it's so cost effective for GW to make one product and sell it as two.

azazel the cat wrote:

Sasori wrote:

azazel the cat wrote:I have serious doubts about a 3-pack of Wraiths/Spyders, considering the cost & play value of those units. When compared to other prices like Immortals/Deathmarks or Flayed Ones, that Wraith/Spyder box would have to cost as much as a Land Raider.

I think it's quite possible, it will probably be priced around the new VC 3-model kit (50$) Takes 200 dollars to get two full units of wraiths, more if you want some spyders. Seems about right to me.

I'm hoping the Nightscythe/Doomscythe are around CCB prices, and not Ghost Ark prices.

Your futile hope is delicious, my friend.

I think we both know that the Nightscythe/Doomscythe will be priced exactly like the Ghost/Doomsday Ark: you can have either a transport or a tank, but either way you're paying for a really expensive tank.

Also, I have a feeling that Triarch Stalkers will never actually have models made, just because it's the only new vehicle that isn't an either/or choice like the Scythes or the Arks or Barges. I expect this to be the new trend amongst all the new codices, just because it's so cost effective for GW to make one product and sell it as two.

Well, the Dreadknight was a single kit, and so was the Razorwing Jetfighter. I think it's quite possible the Triarch Stalker will have it's own kit. I at least hope so....

I know the Nightscythe/Doom will probably be at 50$ a pop. it would just be nice if they 33$ instead.

Samus_aran115 wrote:March? That seems like too long. Usually they release stuff a little bit after christmas, to draw in those customers who picked up the game during the holiday season.

If VC gets released within Jan, GW usually waits atleast a month for the next counter part to be released. So mid February? Unless mid February is the 2nd wave Necron,
then they have to wait after ( Tau or Chaos ) and perhaps another fantasy release for their turn.

I would expect (unfortunately) the Scythe kit to be around Ghost Ark price, judging from the artwork it seems to be quite a bti bigger than the CCB.

I am also serously doubtng the Wraith/Spyder kit being 3 to a box. i dont haver any info back this up at all, i can just see it being a 1 model kit (maybe even finecast?).

Not sure on Tombblades though....they can be deployed in squads of 1 so will GW box them such or will it be a 3 or even a 5 model box? Maybe around terminator price?

If this is all correct I will be picking up most of this tbh. I plan waiths, stalkers and I really need the battleforce too. This is great news for me. Looking like a lot is falling into place for my new necron army.

A lot will need converting, but a having so much in plastic will make that so much easier for me. This is great.


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Praxiss wrote:I would expect (unfortunately) the Scythe kit to be around Ghost Ark price, judging from the artwork it seems to be quite a bti bigger than the CCB.

Yeah i think the Triark will probably be that price, really very expensive seen as it seems to be lacking real punch. Seems a cool unit non the less and probably makes a good support an CC blocker unit.

I don't know about the size but from the stats it is either of a defiler type size, i.e. without base or is dread sized. I like the size of the bigger but might prefer the price of the smaller. Depends how it looks.

Praxiss wrote:I am also serously doubtng the Wraith/Spyder kit being 3 to a box. i dont haver any info back this up at all, i can just see it being a 1 model kit (maybe even finecast?).

I'm going to stick my neck out and say if they don't do these in plastic and in boxes of three I'll be damned.

They will probably match the prices of these.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat570034a&prodId=prod1190056a

In fact Necropolis Knights minus the rider might make good stand ins if they don't decide to do them in plastic, just would need a head change and a more spiny look.

I've been thinking for a while the Tomb Kings set would make a good proxy for Wraiths.....anyone actually done it?

Haven't actually done it, but there is a unit of Necropolis Knights sitting on the table at my FLGS... I think it would work.
The tails are so long, that you'd be able to make 2 wraiths per kit. I really like this conversion.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Necron-Canoptek-Wraith-Conversion-Warhammer-40k-40mm-mdf-base-w-whip-coils-BIN-/200695583880?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eba639488#ht_2522wt_1112

Well I plan on picking up the battle force to get started with necrons.

I want the the walker NOW lol.

Can't wait for the walker

It's the Nightscythe i am most looking forward to. Gonna grab a couple of them stright away.

Although, having re-read the rules, i'm starting to favour Tomb Blades over Destroyers right now.

Praxiss wrote:It's the Nightscythe i am most looking forward to. Gonna grab a couple of them stright away.

I'm with you here: give us the Scythes! Not really interested in the Stalker and everything else is pretty simple to kitbash, proxy, or counts-as for now. A Scythe proxy is doable, but anything decent-looking will require an undue amount of time and money. Really wish these had been in the first wave...

Also hoping the Wraith+Spyder box winds up being a false rumor. In the codex art, it looks like a head is all they have in common...really hope that's the case for the models too. Wraiths should be tall, lithe and agile-looking...Spyders should be broad, heavy, and ponderous. Unless there are an absurd amount of extra bits (or some very creative reuse of bits), it seems really strange to combine these two very different units in one box.

if it is a plastic kit of fine cast then the part makign the Wraith stand up tall (tail, whatever) may well only be a couple of bitsof sprue due to the light weight of the model. or the model for the new wraith might not quite so lithe looking as the prvious model (i'm think Talos-esque)

Looking at the art, the carapace looks the same as well (the wraith seems to have a power source or something on its back but this is described int he fluff for the unit).

i think it is pretty much a given that it will be an eith/or kit like Lyguards/triarch and immortals/deathmarks.