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 Monkeysloth wrote:

 Mr. Burning wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I think all retail is only through his own storefront, IIRC he had his reasons for this move, but it's been aeons ago since I read that in a newsletter of his.

Thanks. I have often wondered why something that should be huge didn't have a presence outside of their own storefront.

If they wanted to keep them limited boutique minis why proceed with a game and KS (or maybe the scarcity provided by the KS delays is somehow a cunning plan to keep the oiks from throwing even more money Poots' way?)

Because if he sold into retail that $200 core box would have to sell for twice that if not more? KD was really the first big box of miniatures that couldn't justify being in stores that's common now. He sells on his store because he can make a profit, more profit, there then retail where he has to sell to distributors for 30%-40% of retail pricing. Fredrik, owner of monolith, had a blog post a few years ago where he broke down costs for his games and why they weren't viable to be in general retail.

This is honestly why his company hasn't gone under and it the smartest thing he's done. He's also lucky to have the demand that he can just sell directly and not worry about retail.

That actually makes sense.

And makes the issues with this KS seem almost inevitable.

 aku-chan wrote:
Can't speak for others obviously, but I wonder how many disgruntled backers are basically in the same situation as me, where they love the Kingdom Death brand but pretty much hate the guy and the way he does things?

This is pretty much it for me. The guy is arrogant, living his best life on our dime, doing next to nothing, and his fawning sycophants still act like he's the second coming. The game is fun-ish, but the miniature fights are the least engaging part of it, and the ones I played were not particularly tactically engaging.

I don't think he's exactly living his best life when he has since the end of the campaign lost both his parents and weathered a multi-year global pandemic with the rest of us, but there's a lack of responsibility and accountability in his conduct that I do genuinely despise.

The "free" additional content from the scale creep is now a problem in its own right for me. I get that it sounds like a good problem to have, but there's just no conceivable way I can actually store all of these things. Hard to understand for the creator of KDM who has lived and breathed his product for the past decade, but it's not such an important part of my life that I'm willing to part with the amount of space it'll now take up.

You just need to pull up some floorboards and hollow out a crawl space under the pantry.

New KS update: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/poots/kingdom-death-monster-15/posts/3799255

Final (pre-production/pilot?) sample of the Gambler's Chest. Just pictures, no words.

I backed this KS when my kid was in daycare. He will be in middle school by the time I receive this (assuming mid/late Q3 given production + shipping + distribution).

I enjoyed seeing the email preview that was all exclamation points. But then I opened the email and realized Poots’s email hadn’t been hacked. What a let down.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I enjoyed seeing the email preview that was all exclamation points. But then I opened the email and realized Poots’s email hadn’t been hacked. What a let down.

Not sure if they're making more (Or people are buying less), but I like that their minis no longer instantly sell out, and I don't have to get up in the middle of the night to see if there's anything I want.

Wish the international shipping was a bit lower though, $24 postage on a $30 figure is painful!

 aku-chan wrote:
Not sure if they're making more (Or people are buying less), but I like that their minis no longer instantly sell out, and I don't have to get up in the middle of the night to see if there's anything I want.

Wish the international shipping was a bit lower though, $24 postage on a $30 figure is painful!

Well, I'm sadly in the "buying less" camp. I have about 90% of KD's 1st edition releases up until the 2nd Monster KS, but after that they sold out so fast I had no chance of buying a 1st edition...so I stopped buying the resins.

I really should put them on eBay and just focus on the plastic kits and the game.

Even I'm slowing down, and I absolutely love the models.

My irritation is pricey pinup models in a scale I don't enjoy with gaming stuff price locked behind it.
Some of the recent pinups has been an experience in frustration as well trying to build them.

I haven't bought anything in quite a while as nothing's really stood out to me outside some Death High. I like the some of the recent strongmen but not enough to order.

Including myself, I know 12(?) people that got at least the Monster core box and most of us haven't bought anything in a long time. Wouldn't be surprised if it isn't 100% no purchasing. Now I wonder how many even still have their collections?

a good amount. Their discord is still quite active and one of the larger official discords i'm in. Just because people here on Dakka don't talk about the game much anymore doesn't mean that the game any less popular then any system that's been around as long as it has. Things peak and then taper off.

True. We are still managing about 1 campaign per year. This summer we will attempt Spidicules (I finally got them built and painted).

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

Some of the recent pinups has been an experience in frustration as well trying to build them.

Let me guess... Death Crown Inheritor Aya by any chance?
Mine got packed away because I couldn't face all that gap filling

 aku-chan wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

Some of the recent pinups has been an experience in frustration as well trying to build them.

Let me guess... Death Crown Inheritor Aya by any chance?
Mine got packed away because I couldn't face all that gap filling

I found both of the plastic models from that month to be gappy and annoying to fix... :(

I meant how many of the group I know still have their collections. For sure three cut bait, and a couple others massively reduced their collections to just game content.

Yeah, that Death Crown pinup Aya is PISSING ME OFF.
It's a bit of a mess, and looking at the version glued up on the website makes me wonder if it was an early version because the gaps on mine are so MASSIVE.

The gaming sized ones, totally fine.
Wish they'd stop bundling pinups with the game sized figures. I love the game sized stuff. I can use it.
I don't even care about the game content. I just want to build those game sized models. Could care less about the overtly sexualized pinup junk.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Yeah, that Death Crown pinup Aya is PISSING ME OFF.
It's a bit of a mess, and looking at the version glued up on the website makes me wonder if it was an early version because the gaps on mine are so MASSIVE.

Yea, I noticed that, too. Most of the time some light filing of the sprue gets me enough sprue-goo to fill the gaps but I had to do much more than I was really comfortable with for this model. Still, it wasn't as bad as the Gold Smoke Knight.

Gambler's Chest shipping.: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/poots/kingdom-death-monster-15/posts/3858154
USA: $39.

Steve and Sixth posted model assembly instructions:

"The list, as found by the members of the Lantern's Reign Discord (sorry to Adam is this isn't meant to be public yet, but it's community knowledge-collection), is;

https://build.kingdomdeath.com/the-gambler

Gambler's Chest Narrative Miniatures:
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/axeman-family
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/beast-hunter-armor
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/bone-eater
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/bowmaster-of-deadrock
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/bright-knives
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/champion-of-the-goblin
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/clever-strategist
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/cockroach-queen
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/cursed-spear
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/dark-eye
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/father-and-son
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/herb-gatherer
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/honorable-berserker
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/immitation-butcher
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/leyline-walker
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/mad-and-mighty-striker
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/magma-masochist
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/murder-victim
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/murderer
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/popular-guy
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/romantic-adventurer
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/shadow-stalker
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/screaming-hoarder
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/sprinter-armor
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/tough-guy
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/white-fang

Gambler's Chest Monsters
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/atnas
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/crimson-croc
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/godhand
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/the-gambler (only one image)

Placeholders
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/bone-eaters
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/dark-flower
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/death-armor
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/honeycomb-weaver
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/the-king
https://build.kingdomdeath.com/oblivion-mosquito

The $40 shipping to the US is pretty reasonable considering the size and while it sucks to pay more, plus the massive delay, Poots pretty much doubled the contents of it. Since they've also been good at refunds I feel that if you're still in the campaign paying for shipping isn't going to bother you much.

Shipping my Gambler's Chest is less than the last CMON game I paid shipping for.
40 bucks seems fair for its size.

Looking forward to building the stuff I've seen screenshots of for years.

Also their July sale is up if there's anyone who still cares besides me. Some stuff sold out but there's a fair amount still up. Be aware that the birthday gift does in fact have spoilers if you keep scrolling.
The best looking model of the month, Gunborg, may pop back up again since she'll be done in that photoresin- which I have to say their latest offerings of have had ZERO cleanup necessary. Flawless prints. It was pretty wild.


(Still have yet to finish building that Death Crown Inheritor Aya. Really should finish her!)

I know I complain a lot about how Kingdom Death does things, but I am super grateful that they let you spoil yourself on the contents of the Birthday Gift if you wanted to.
Would've been massively disappointed to spend $60 on that.

Still got me for a Painters Scale Gunborg and a Remastered Forsaker though!

Hopefully that Forsaker is just the start of the remastered line, would love another chance to get some of their older stuff.

Ive been out the loop for a while and i have no idea where we are at in the project apart from the Gamblers Chests is getting sent out soon.

Can someone please tell me which of the following we are still waiting on and possibly an ETA on them.

Satan
Annonymous Survivor
Hard Plastic Game Board
Campaigns of Death
Death Armor Expansion
First Hero Expansion
Ivory Dragon Expansion
Red Witches Expansion

Thanks

 Original Timmy wrote:
Ive been out the loop for a while and i have no idea where we are at in the project apart from the Gamblers Chests is getting sent out soon.

Can someone please tell me which of the following we are still waiting on and possibly an ETA on them.

Hard Plastic Game Board


Thanks

This is the only one I know has been talked about recently basically it's in pre-production and was harder to design then expected but it's pretty far along now. I think we're suppose to see test casts later this year.


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 aku-chan wrote:
I know I complain a lot about how Kingdom Death does things, but I am super grateful that they let you spoil yourself on the contents of the Birthday Gift if you wanted to.
Would've been massively disappointed to spend $60 on that.

Ya. I'm glad they spoiled too.

 Original Timmy wrote:

Can someone please tell me which of the following we are still waiting on and possibly an ETA on them.

Satan
Annonymous Survivor
Hard Plastic Game Board
Campaigns of Death
Death Armor Expansion
First Hero Expansion
Ivory Dragon Expansion
Red Witches Expansion

Of the items on your list, I believe Satan is the only one which has delivered. The rest are still being worked on.

Monkeysloth wrote:

 Original Timmy wrote:
Ive been out the loop for a while and i have no idea where we are at in the project apart from the Gamblers Chests is getting sent out soon.

Can someone please tell me which of the following we are still waiting on and possibly an ETA on them.

Hard Plastic Game Board


Thanks

This is the only one I know has been talked about recently basically it's in pre-production and was harder to design then expected but it's pretty far along now. I think we're suppose to see test casts later this year.

youwashock wrote:

 Original Timmy wrote:

Can someone please tell me which of the following we are still waiting on and possibly an ETA on them.

Satan
Annonymous Survivor
Hard Plastic Game Board
Campaigns of Death
Death Armor Expansion
First Hero Expansion
Ivory Dragon Expansion
Red Witches Expansion

Of the items on your list, I believe Satan is the only one which has delivered. The rest are still being worked on.

Ok thanks, i better send them a message about Satan as ive not received him, the last thing i got was wave 1 items. Is it best to do a support ticket via his website or send an KS message?

WOW thats still a lot of items left to do then, the rate we are going, we will celebrate the 10th anniversary of the KS before he completes everything at this pace, KS ran in 2016 and we are only 3 years off 2026, so its not as daft as it sounds lol.

Also $39 shipping for me too, to the UK, which is a lot less than i was expecting it to be for the GC.

this is the most recent status he's posted. It doesn't include the showdown board or anything that's been delivered or about to be delivered.

He's also posted that almost every mini is finished and most of what's left to be done (probably sculpts only) is the game development and there were be a post later this year about what they're doing to address how long the project has taken while still keeping the quality Poots wants.

Here is a quick and honest review of the kickstarter projects:

Black Knight - 99%
Frogdog - 98%
Campaigns of Death - 70%
Screaming God Expansion - 75%
Oblivion Mosquito - 60%
Nightmare Ram - 60%
Pariah Expansion - 70%
Red Witches Expansion - 60%
Gryphon - 30%
Honeycomb Weaver Expansion - 40%
Mountain Man - Inverted Mountain Campaign - 30%
Abyssal Woods Campaign - 20%
First Hero - 60%
Silver City - 70%
Ivory Dragon Expansion - 20%
Pathfinders of Death - 50%
Wanderer - Lantern Year 3 Candy & Cola - 50%
Wanderer - Goth Amy - 50%
Wanderer - Hyperlight Drifter - 50%
Wanderer - Aeneas - 40%
Promos of Death - 25%
False Messengers - 35%
Super Survivors - 20%
Death Armor Expansion - 25%

 Monkeysloth wrote:
this is the most recent status he's posted. It doesn't include the showdown board or anything that's been delivered or about to be delivered.

He's also posted that almost every mini is finished and most of what's left to be done (probably sculpts only) is the game development and there were be a post later this year about what they're doing to address how long the project has taken while still keeping the quality Poots wants.

Here is a quick and honest review of the kickstarter projects:

Black Knight - 99%
Frogdog - 98%
Campaigns of Death - 70%
Screaming God Expansion - 75%
Oblivion Mosquito - 60%
Nightmare Ram - 60%
Pariah Expansion - 70%
Red Witches Expansion - 60%
Gryphon - 30%
Honeycomb Weaver Expansion - 40%
Mountain Man - Inverted Mountain Campaign - 30%
Abyssal Woods Campaign - 20%
First Hero - 60%
Silver City - 70%
Ivory Dragon Expansion - 20%
Pathfinders of Death - 50%
Wanderer - Lantern Year 3 Candy & Cola - 50%
Wanderer - Goth Amy - 50%
Wanderer - Hyperlight Drifter - 50%
Wanderer - Aeneas - 40%
Promos of Death - 25%
False Messengers - 35%
Super Survivors - 20%
Death Armor Expansion - 25%

Thanks that is very handy, i noticed the "Anonymous Survivor" is not listed, has it been renamed or something?

 ced1106 wrote:
Gambler's Chest shipping.: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/poots/kingdom-death-monster-15/posts/3858154
USA: $39.

Steve and Sixth posted model assembly instructions:

"The list, as found by the members of the Lantern's Reign Discord (sorry to Adam is this isn't meant to be public yet, but it's community knowledge-collection), is;

--SNIP--

I noticed that there are "Silence" models in the build list as well and I've not seen them before? Are they not included in the GC?