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http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/04/fast-food-restaurants-strike-mcdonalds-wendys-burger-king-taco-bell/15058943/


The fast-food industry suffered some image indigestion Thursday when more than 430 workers demonstrating for higher wages in dozens of cities were arrested, organizers estimate.

Those arrested included Rep. Gwen Moore, D-Wis., in West Milwaukee.

She joined fast-food workers from New York to Chicago to Los Angeles who put down their burger flippers and picked up picket signs in a strike for $15-an-hour minimum wages. The rallies included acts of civil disobedience — mostly blocking streets.

"There has to be civil disobedience because workers don't see any other way to get $15 an hour and a union," says Kendall Fells, organizing director of Fast Food Forward, a group backed financially by the Service Employees International Union, which organized the Thursday protests. "There's a long history of this, from the civil rights movement to the farm workers movement."

A number of fast-food workers make close to the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour, or roughly $15,000 annually. Some say that is not a living wage, especially for workers who are supporting families.

In a statement, McDonald's said, "We believe that any minimum wage increase should be implemented over time so that the impact on owners and small- and medium-sized businesses — like the ones who own and operate the majority of our restaurants — is manageable."

Strikers began to gather early Thursday in more than 100 cities at outlets for major fast-food chains from McDonald's to Wendy's to Burger King. Shortly after 7 a.m. ET on Thursday, police arrested 19 workers who sat down in the street outside a McDonald's at New York's Times Square, the New York City Police Department said. As many as several dozen striking workers were arrested in Detroit, as well.

In West Milwaukee, Moore, 62, a five-term congresswoman, was arrested after she joined a street sit-in and refused to leave when police told demonstrators to move, says Eric Harris, her press secretary. West Milwaukee police say at least 25 others were arrested.

"I take great pride in supporting Milwaukee workers as they risk arrest in pursuit of a brighter tomorrow for their families," Moore said in a statement.

The protest demands are for major fast-food companies to pay a $15-an-hour minimum wage and for workers to be able to unionize without retaliation.

Burger King cashier Terrence Wise, 35, who was arrested in Kansas City, Mo., says he's demonstrating for future workers and for his three daughters, ages 12, 10 and 8.

"Tomorrow, I've got to move out of my house because I can't afford to pay rent," says Wise, who has worked at Burger King for 10 years and earns $9.50 an hour. "It's not 4 million CEOs, but 4 million fast-food workers who keep these companies running."

In New York, more than 400 demonstrators gathered outside the Times Square McDonald's, and 14 men and five women were arrested and accused of sitting in the street and blocking traffic, police say.

The National Council of Chain Restaurants, an industry trade group, took issue with the protest tactics. "While it is common for labor unions to stage events in order to grab media attention, encouraging activities that put both restaurant workers and their customers in danger of physical harm is not only irresponsible, it's disturbing," said executive director Rob Green in a statement. "Unions are calling it 'civil disobedience' when in reality, this choreographed activity is trespassing, and it's illegal."


I don;t know if this "effort" is helping to actually unioinize any fast food places, but it seems to be influencing the conversation about Minimum Wage. I think at least 13 states have passed increases, the President has talked about the subject, an several large cities have made changes too. Perhaps the Unions have finally found a strategy for relevance again. Instead of narrowly worryig about only who is part of the Union they are instead going to expand their mandate to a larger mission?

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Nah. It only matters to seven people. Everyone else is watching the adminstration form a circular firing squad on the ISIS thing.

In other news they just engineered a machine that make 360 flawless made to order burgers an hour.

Keep striking...

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 Frazzled wrote:
Nah. It only matters to seven people. Everyone else is watching the adminstration form a circular firing squad on the ISIS thing.

In other news they just engineered a machine that make 360 flawless made to order burgers an hour.

Keep striking...

It will probably have better customer service too.

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I just ordered a double cheeseburger. I received a single meat cheeseburger which i did not see (in a wrapper until back in another office building). I'm for REDUCING their minimum wage.

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Was it dine in or Drive Thru. I can tell you, they deiberatly mess up the order on drive thrus for kicks and giggles.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Was it dine in or Drive Thru. I can tell you, they deiberatly mess up the order on drive thrus for kicks and giggles.

Takeout. I always open the main package, but the burger is in its own wrapper.

So, I'm ok with the machine. Down with the meat bags!

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Some unions have wages tied to minimum wage. So, if they get a minimum wage increase it positively affects the wages of union members. They probably would not mind increasing membership, but I don't think it is their primary reason for these union sponsored strikes in a non-union sector.

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If the minimum wage is $7.25, asking for more than double that for an easily-replaceable position seems a little silly. One would think if set their sights somewhat lower, they would have a better chance of achieving their goals.

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I still say 10$ an hour is a good Minimum wage.

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 -Shrike- wrote:
If the minimum wage is $7.25, asking for more than double that for an easily-replaceable position seems a little silly. One would think if set their sights somewhat lower, they would have a better chance of achieving their goals.


I think the goal is to turn minimum wage into a living wage.

   
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 LordofHats wrote:
 -Shrike- wrote:
If the minimum wage is $7.25, asking for more than double that for an easily-replaceable position seems a little silly. One would think if set their sights somewhat lower, they would have a better chance of achieving their goals.


I think the goal is to turn minimum wage into a living wage.


How do you do that though?

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Living wage-thats a funny concept. The US has open borders. Minimum wage is not possible in that.

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 Slarg232 wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
 -Shrike- wrote:
If the minimum wage is $7.25, asking for more than double that for an easily-replaceable position seems a little silly. One would think if set their sights somewhat lower, they would have a better chance of achieving their goals.


I think the goal is to turn minimum wage into a living wage.


How do you do that though?


Raising minimum wage to $15 apparently

   
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Increase it to $15 an hour, apparently.

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How should I know? $15 ($31,200 a year) is the number often cited by advocates of living wage.

   
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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Increase it to $15 an hour, apparently.


Why not decrease cost of living

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Because that's infinitely more complicated (and would probably involve Socialism )

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 LordofHats wrote:
How should I know? $15 ($31,200 a year) is the number often cited by advocates of living wage.

31k a year is not enough to live off of.

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Maybe not if you like expensive booze and fancy cars. I could live of half that easily most parts of the US.

   
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 LordofHats wrote:
Because that's infinitely more complicated (and would probably involve Socialism )


So next admin is stopping redistribution of wealth?

as for 31K not being enough to live on depends on location

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I lived on 28k a year in Seattle. Not wonderfully, but well enough.

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Yeah. My yearly expenses in Kansas City (with a fairly nice apartment) is 20k. I imagine unless you live in certain Metro areas (DC, New York, San Fran) 31k a year can be managed.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
How should I know? $15 ($31,200 a year) is the number often cited by advocates of living wage.

31k a year is not enough to live off of.


It is in dumpwater Florida.

The Wife can't live on less than $60,000 after, and that doesn't include car repairs when she's attacked by buildings leaping out at her when driving.

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Well, I guess im wrong. Or it is different in cali

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Well, I guess im wrong. Or it is different in cali


Move to Austin

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I hate tthe heat

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No. No more Californians thanks. They just passed handsfree in Austin, just like Calfiornia. Its like watching a once glorious garden rot from some foul pestilence.

On the positive had a hawk take out a dove in our back yard yesterday. BOOM! The dogs wanted to eat the hawk but I kept them in. You don't want no part of the business end of a chickenhawk.

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Well, if minimum wage kept up with inflation it'd be like 20 bucks an hour. lol

I don't think minimum wage should be raised to a living wage, as it really would just feth up inflation and force greasy business owners to think of other ways to feth their employees, thus not actually solving the problem.

Really, we just need more comprehensive programs to help people afford the necessities of life- shelter, food for themselves and their kids etc, while working crap jobs. The gub'ment doesn't want to force McDonalds to pay you more than 7 bucks an hour? Okay. They'll just subsidize your rent then, so long as you remain employed and contribute to the pot.

edit- "Decrease the cost of living". That's a better way to put it. lol

And yeah, socialism. Hiss!

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