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Field Gen wrote:According to my sources the battle force will include the following

10 Necron Warriors
5 Immortals
5 Lychgaurd
I night Scythe
3 tri stalkers ...things.

So GW removes two Necron Warriors from their sprue and sells more than 140 £ of merchandise for 60£?
Kick your sources where it hurts

Kroothawk wrote:

Field Gen wrote:According to my sources the battle force will include the following

10 Necron Warriors
5 Immortals
5 Lychgaurd
I night Scythe
3 tri stalkers ...things.

So GW removes two Necron Warriors from their sprue and sells more than 140 £ of merchandise for 60£?
Kick your sources where it hurts

And new models in the battle force? Not bloody likely.
I've said it before, but including Lychguard/Praetorians in the Battle Force makes it awesome for conversions!

If I had to guess maybe it was just a mistake, I couldn't see 3 Triarchs in there, maybe one if something else came out. Perhaps it's three Wraiths or Spyders or something? That would be more plausible I think.

I'd say

10x warriors
Annihilation barge/command barge
5x immortals/deathmarks
3x scarabs.

Least that's my guess

Anyone why says 10 warriors is automatically disqualified.

There could be an upcoming recutting of the warrior sprue.

lord_blackfang wrote:Anyone why says 10 warriors is automatically disqualified.

My guess:

12x Warriors
3x Scarabs
5x Lychguard/Praetorians
3x Destroyers

We're more likely to see Immortals rather than Lychguard in Battleforce...

5x Immortals/Deathmarks
1x Ghost Ark/Doomsday Dark
16x Necron Warriors
4x Scarabs
(possible?) 5x Lychguard/Pretorians

I'm going with Blackgaze on this one although I think we'd see Destroyers before we see Lychguard/Pretorians.

Rumors have been saying that Lychguard/Pretorians are in since 1st wave came out. I don't think that the Lychguard/Pretorians have been selling well, which also makes them good targets for being in the battleforce.

I don't think that destroyers will make it because 2 or 3 destroyers would be more of a value than 1 box of Lychguard/Praetorians.

If it is 16 warriors, 4 scarabs, 5 immortals/deathmarks, 5 lychguard/praetorians and a ghost ark I would likely pick up one. Maybe 2.
If it has destroyers, I'd probably pass on it.

Blackgaze wrote:5x Immortals/Deathmarks
1x Ghost Ark/Doomsday ark
12x Necron Warriors
4x Scarabs
(possible?) 5x Lychguard/Pretorians

This with the exception that it most certainly will be 3x Scarabs as that is what you get with 12 Necron Warriors currently, it will be either Lychguard/Pretorians or Immortals/Deathmarks. If it is Lychguard/Pretorians will be great for conversions but i'm betting Immortals/Deathmarks.

Nearly all the battleforces GW produced have two troop choices (Warriors and Immortals) and a transport (Ghost Ark/Doomsday ark). A lot have an extra unit, Orks have bikes, Dark Eldar have Reavers space marines get a predictor!! but not all do. Space Wolves get nothing but two troops and a drop pod in theirs. With the price of the Ghost Ark/Doomsday ark, and the fact you could build it as the Doomsday Ark and the Immortals as Deathmarks for something "extra", i'm guessing that there probably won't be another unit.


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My bad Space Marines get some assault marines extra and Space Wolves get some scouts extra.

Anpu-adom wrote:Rumors have been saying that Lychguard/Pretorians are in since 1st wave came out. I don't think that the Lychguard/Pretorians have been selling well, which also makes them good targets for being in the battleforce.

I don't think that destroyers will make it because 2 or 3 destroyers would be more of a value than 1 box of Lychguard/Praetorians.

If it is 16 warriors, 4 scarabs, 5 immortals/deathmarks, 5 lychguard/praetorians and a ghost ark I would likely pick up one. Maybe 2.
If it has destroyers, I'd probably pass on it.

The old battle force had 3 Destroyers in it. Considering I doubt that Destroyers and Lychguard/Praetorians are selling well, I would bet on seeing these guys in the battleforce.

Blood Angels has Assault Squad, Death Company, Tactical Squad and Rhino for £60 vs £84.50 brought separately.

If Necrons had Warriors, Immortals/deathmarks, Ghost Ark and Lychguard/praetorians for £60 vs £92.50 that is a much bigger saving compared to any other battalion.

I don't think we will see the Ark in as it is a pretty huge kit and more than any other standard transport available. Command barge might be more likely at is cost of £20.50 the same as a Rhino etc.

alphaomega wrote:Blood Angels has Assault Squad, Death Company, Tactical Squad and Rhino for £60 vs £84.50 brought separately.

If Necrons had Warriors, Immortals/deathmarks, Ghost Ark and Lychguard/praetorians for £60 vs £92.50 that is a much bigger saving compared to any other battalion.

I don't think we will see the Ark in as it is a pretty huge kit and more than any other standard transport available. Command barge might be more likely at is cost of £20.50 the same as a Rhino etc.

You make some good points, but I don't really think that the CCBarge will make it. Only the Tau battleforce has a possible HQ choice in it (though I have no reason other than inertia for them to not make a change). That would be a 700+ point army all in one box!

I also highly doubt that they'll put an ark of barge kit in the battleforce.. Simply because they want you to have to go and buy transports (highly needed in fifth).. I'm betting on something similar to the old battleforce but with some of the warriors swapped out for an immortals/deathmark set. Just my two cents though

nice. the whole crons codex online. why did i ever buy it???

Nemesor wrote:nice. the whole crons codex online. why did i ever buy it??

They are always online...

It's always good to have in in front of you when you are playing someone though..

I'm going to stick with my guess that the battleforce will contain roughly:

10 Warriors
3 scarab swarms
5 immortals
3 destroyers
1 nightscythe as I really doubt the ghost/doomsday ark would be in it as I can't see GW putting in something that could be heavy support in the battleforce

King Pariah wrote:I'm going to stick with my guess that the battleforce will contain roughly:

10 Warriors
3 scarab swarms
5 immortals
3 destroyers
1 nightscythe as I really doubt the ghost/doomsday ark would be in it as I can't see GW putting in something that could be heavy support in the battleforce

The nightscythe can be made into a Doomscythe though.

EDIT - On current speculation that is.

King Pariah wrote:I'm going to stick with my guess that the battleforce will contain roughly:

10 Warriors
3 scarab swarms
5 immortals
3 destroyers
1 nightscythe as I really doubt the ghost/doomsday ark would be in it as I can't see GW putting in something that could be heavy support in the battleforce

Going to be 8/12/16 warriors and 2/3/4 Scarab swarms as the warriors sprues are 4 warriors and a scarab swarm. I can see it being:
12 Warriors
3 Scarab Swarms
5 Immortals
3 Destroyers (if they don't get an update, if they do then another 5 Immortals)
And cost depending on the nightscythe one of them, but again I get the feeling it is going to be all current stuff

I didn't know warriors came 4 to a sprue. Huh.

Swara wrote:The nightscythe can be made into a Doomscythe though.

EDIT - On current speculation that is.

Their artwork indicates their overall shape design and size are SOO similar that I'd be seriously surprised if this wasn't true they will be a multi option kit.

I would actually like to see a Night Scythe kit for around $35-40 USD and a Doom Scythe kit for $40-$50 USD and here's why-

If they release it as a Night/Doom scythe combo kit there's no way it'll be cheaper than the ghost ark. At that point we're paying heavy tank prices (the DD ark) for a skimmer transport (Ghost).

If the night/doom scythe kit follows the same pattern, it'll cost $300 USD plus tax just to field 6 AV11 transports. At $35 a box like rhinos, it's only $210 for the same number of vehicles.


Obviously GW prices their stuff so high that only morons like me buy it anyway, but i'm still crossing my fingers and hoping for a two box release instead of one split box.

BUT, if you are able to model them in such a way that they could be a Night Scythe OR a Doom Scythe you are getting two vehicles for the price of one.

tetrisphreak wrote:If the night/doom scythe kit follows the same pattern, it'll cost $300 USD plus tax just to field 6 AV11 transports. At $35 a box like rhinos, it's only $210 for the same number of vehicles.

You realize this is actually supporting evidence for them to be a multi-kit

Oh trust me I'm well aware of what will likely transpire.

I'm betting against the spread here.

Well, if Tomb Blade models are on the way (and I hope they are), perhaps Battleforce will consist of:

12x Warriors
5x Immortals / Deathmarks
3x Scarab Swarm
3x Tomb Blade

Kinda more like DE Battleforce, with bikes I mean...

Something to consider is, while battleforces generally have 4 units, the only other army with a plastic swarm integrated into another units sprue - Tyranids - doesn't count the Ripper swarms as part of the 4 units. So expect 4 + the scarab bases.

24 Warriors + 6 Scarab bases than?
(old Battleforce had 28 + 7)