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Any idea when the battle force is coming out?

Is there anything on the tombblade and destroyer sets?

I don't recall ever seeing rumours about Destroyer sets being replaced.

I think its said somewhere in the info on page 1 that destroyers would be getting new models, but not soon.

The manager at my FLGS put all the destroyer related models at half price + 10% off GW price.

He said his distributor told him the models would be changing, but he is by no means an official word on the matter.

I did however, purchase a few heavy destroyers and a destroyer lord dirt cheap.

BarBoBot wrote:I think its said somewhere in the info on page 1 that destroyers would be getting new models, but not soon.

The manager at my FLGS put all the destroyer related models at half price + 10% off GW price.

He said his distributor told him the models would be changing, but he is by no means an official word on the matter.

I did however, purchase a few heavy destroyers and a destroyer lord dirt cheap.

Current ones don't look that different from the new Codex version. Maybe GW is gonna make a new box with multiple models and options to make some of them heavy?

I thought the new Immortals were changed to better resemble the existing Destoryers...?

To me it looks like GW wants to get away from the 3rd edition book in every way. I wouldn't be surprised to see new Destroyer kits that let you make a regular, heavy or Lord version but I don't see it coming any time soon. There will probably be Finecast versions of the Heavy pieces and lord parts before that.

NecronLord3 wrote:To me it looks like GW wants to get away from the 3rd edition book in every way. I wouldn't be surprised to see new Destroyer kits that let you make a regular, heavy or Lord version but I don't see it coming any time soon. There will probably be Finecast versions of the Heavy pieces and lord parts before that.

Good riddance to the 3rd ed book I say.

It was the codex where there were basically no options,
no special characters,
no personality,
you could field gods capable of eating stars on the the battlefield that could be killed by sniper rifles,
C'tan did EVERYTHING,
from being the doom of the old ones rather than the enslavers,
to the entire reason humanity fears death,
to one being the god of the entire Adeptus Mechanicus who was the entire reason they came up with new and advanced technology,
who if he were to wake up would literally cause the Imperium to auto-lose,
yet who was also on earth as a classic folklore dragon and being beat by the emperor with a lance on a horse,
who then dragged his ass into space to mars and threw him into the ground,
yet was also somehow killed in Ferrus Mannus's rise to power story,
and the C'tan maybe being the hivemind,
and the C'tan being mega-powerful except were defeated by an Ultramarine's melta bomb,
and a random tech-priest's plasma bomb,
and the Necrons never had any real accomplishments, victories, or actions,
and on and on and on

I for one welcome our new robot overlord backstory.

ph34r wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:To me it looks like GW wants to get away from the 3rd edition book in every way. I wouldn't be surprised to see new Destroyer kits that let you make a regular, heavy or Lord version but I don't see it coming any time soon. There will probably be Finecast versions of the Heavy pieces and lord parts before that.

Good riddance to the 3rd ed book I say.

yet was also somehow killed in Ferrus Mannus's rise to power story,
and the C'tan maybe being the hivemind,
I for one welcome our new robot overlord backstory.

Wrong and wrong.

The thing Mannus killed was never said to be a C'tan. It was more likely some type of construct.

And the C'tan being the Hivemind was just speculation cooked up by some fans. Again, no real basis other then the nids avoiding the Outsider, which does NOT mean that he controls them.

ph34r wrote:
I for one welcome our new robot overlord backstory.

Yes, because blatantly ripping off tomb kings is so much more original and interesting. Sorry, I thought it was a GOOD thing when gw started trying ot get away from that. I mean, sure, the whole 'Is Sigmar a missing Primarch?' thing was good for a while, but really?

Never mind how this totally screws up several other codecies backstories or how it makes the Necrons a group of emo robots from space. I mean, seriously, one's name is even pronounced Emo-Tech.

BaronIveagh wrote:

Never mind how this totally screws up several other codecies backstories or how it makes the Necrons a group of emo robots from space. I mean, seriously, one's name is even pronounced Emo-Tech.

I feel that my sarcasm meter should be going off, but I cant tell

ph34r wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:To me it looks like GW wants to get away from the 3rd edition book in every way. I wouldn't be surprised to see new Destroyer kits that let you make a regular, heavy or Lord version but I don't see it coming any time soon. There will probably be Finecast versions of the Heavy pieces and lord parts before that.

Good riddance to the 3rd ed book I say.

It was the codex where there were basically no options,
no special characters,
no personality,
you could field gods capable of eating stars on the the battlefield that could be killed by sniper rifles,
C'tan did EVERYTHING,
from being the doom of the old ones rather than the enslavers,
to the entire reason humanity fears death,
to one being the god of the entire Adeptus Mechanicus who was the entire reason they came up with new and advanced technology,
who if he were to wake up would literally cause the Imperium to auto-lose,
yet who was also on earth as a classic folklore dragon and being beat by the emperor with a lance on a horse,
who then dragged his ass into space to mars and threw him into the ground,
yet was also somehow killed in Ferrus Mannus's rise to power story,
and the C'tan maybe being the hivemind,
and the C'tan being mega-powerful except were defeated by an Ultramarine's melta bomb,
and a random tech-priest's plasma bomb,
and the Necrons never had any real accomplishments, victories, or actions,
and on and on and on

I for one welcome our new robot overlord backstory.

Well I don't think you could be more wrong. 3rd edition Necrons were the best Codex of 3rd edition and were kings in 4th. I loved the fluff an IMO, the Necron codex was the glue that has been holding the 40k universe together. I can see how some villain player could be upset because suddenly the Tyranids, Chaos, and Dark Eldar were not as 'evil' as the Necrons and plausibly factions like Chaos and Loyalist marines could conceivable join together to fight an enemy like the Necrons. Obviously a large percentage, if not the majority agreed with me considering the positive outcry and response to the Necron update. In fact the majority of critiques were to the fluff, not the rules of the new book. Obviously, all these Necron fans were not hold overs from 2nd edition, but the newer material is more based on 2nd edition Necrons than 3rd. I have a feeling that in about 5-6 years we are going to see yet another Necron Codex where GW is going to confess and suggest that 5th edition Necrons just didn't get it right, much like the last Chaos Codex. But regardless, until then I am going to enjoy my current necrons and keep the memories of my 3rd edition codex held in a special place in my heart and memories.

Short update: Harry confirmed the second wave for February.

Kroothawk wrote:Short update: Harry confirmed the second wave for February.

Praise the Omnissiah! Good news.

NecronLord3 wrote:
Well I don't think you could be more wrong. 3rd edition Necrons were the best Codex of 3rd edition and were kings in 4th. I loved the fluff an IMO, the Necron codex was the glue that has been holding the 40k universe together. I can see how some villain player could be upset because suddenly the Tyranids, Chaos, and Dark Eldar were not as 'evil' as the Necrons and plausibly factions like Chaos and Loyalist marines could conceivable join together to fight an enemy like the Necrons.

It was terrible idea try to add another galaxy-wide force when everything else was already well estabilished. It left the Necrons feel completely detached, not helped by rushed nature of the 3rd edition codex. They're meant to be ancient enemy of the Eldar, but they don't seem to fight them anywhere. Necrons were supposed to be 'ultimate evil' of the galaxy but they were not shown to be actual threat to pretty much anyone.

Not only Necron backstory was poorly written, it was told to far too great detail, leaving too little mystery and even exposing the backstories of other races. Character of the race was conflicted, with totally faceless robots with no personality contrasted with extremely individualistic C'Tans - who were supposed to be leading the race, from the battlefield fighting small scale battles! Not to mention that whole story of how Necrontyr discovered the C'Tan, just like that, was daft.

No, the new fluff isn't that great, but it's better than the old.

Necrons still discover the C'tan in the same way in the new codex do they not?

The one thing that annoys me about the new fluff the most is the fact that Necrons now need to use the webway.

It's getting a bit crowded in there.

They should still have FTL, but utilise Dolmen gates to force their way into the Webway in order to follow their hated Eldar enemies.

Huzzah! for the confirmed second wave!

Kroothawk wrote:Short update: Harry confirmed the second wave for February.

So does that mean that pre-orders will go up Jan. 27th or Feb.3? In stores the 4th or the 11th?
Impatient minds want to know!

I excpect Jan 27th, as thats when WD is out.

Bell of Lost Souls is reporting that Necron 2nd Wave will be 'late' February. Anyone have any idea where they are getting that?

They are also reporting 4 vehicles (1 walker and 2 aircraft) and spyders.

Vehicles it seems pretty clear:
Tomb Stalker
Night Scythe/Doom Scythe
Tomb Blades

No mention of Finecast IC's

From Stick Monkey. He stated necromancer get there on the leap year which would occur at the end of the month.

stickmonkey wrote:Early feb nids, late feb crons. Since it seems i was too cryptic on that...

Kroothawk wrote:

stickmonkey wrote:Early feb nids, late feb crons. Since it seems i was too cryptic on that...

Or was he too Cryptek on that?

Death By Monkeys wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:

stickmonkey wrote:Early feb nids, late feb crons. Since it seems i was too cryptic on that...

Or was he too Cryptek on that?

*blink*blink*blink* Bad Monkey... bad Monkey...

I'd love to see an Illuminor Szeras model. he's actually a pretty useful HQ when you're running a warrior brick.

According to my sources the battle force will include the following

10 Necron Warriors
5 Immortals
5 Lychgaurd
I night Scythe
3 tri stalkers ...things.

One player can field maximum of 3 Triarch Stalkers, I hardly believe that GW would put 3 of them in a box, nevermind a battleforce.

Kroothawk wrote:Short update: Harry confirmed the second wave for February.

Wow I really didn't expect a follow up that quickly, but in terms of running a Wraith Wing list, this sounds awesome! The major issue was the lack of a Night Scythe model for spamming Tesla.

Field Gen wrote:According to my sources the battle force will include the following

10 Necron Warriors
5 Immortals
5 Lychgaurd
I night Scythe
3 tri stalkers ...things.

Strange, other rumors point to

Also release of a Battleforce consisting of the following:

- 16 warriors
- 4 scarab bases
- 5 Immortals/Deathmarks
- 1 Ghost/Doom ark

Plus, 3 tri stalkers? Those things are larger (presumably) than dreadnoughts, way too much for a battleforce

- 16 warriors
- 4 scarab bases
- 5 Immortals/Deathmarks
- 1 Ghost/Doom ark

Makes a lot more since and is around the price range that they usually sit at.

Second Wave in Feb would be nice!