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I'm creating an army in my head, and I've decided that SoB are to be the focus. However, they'll need some allies, for the sake of variety in models, and extra firepower. Now, I'll be converting the Sisters from Marine parts. I'm thinking Grey Knights and Inquisition perhaps? They all have a similar MO, but is this fluffy? A renegade Order of Sisters with a Grey Knight succession chapter slaved to them (the Sisters are most definitely the bosses) to provide extra firepower. The Inquisitors would hang out too, but I haven't figured out their role yet. I want to go hunting for conversion parts online, but I want to know if this is legit first. Thank you!

No such thing as renegade Sisters, but the Inquisition and the Militarum are the armies most likely to be allied with them.

Grey Knights have a history of working with them according to the GK codex, but the Sororitas are incredibly distrusting of psykers, and tend to see Space Marines as a kind of abhuman unless they've actually met them.

The "army" they're most likely to team up with is the Frateris Militia - sadly, they don't have rules under the current edition, but basically think Chaos Cultists covered in Imperial Aquilas and led by Priests.

When I said renegade, I didn't mean anti-Imperium, just that they do their own thing. They're a little more bloodthirsty than the average Sister, so they don't quite follow the rules.

Don,t the templers have a better relationship with them, whole zeal thing+ the hate the witch and xeno aspects.

Hmm. Maybe. Although there doesn't seem to be as much diversity in the Black Templar range.

Can also take Adeptus Arbrites using Imperial Guard. Emphasize Shock Mauls and Shotguns and you can make a very interesting Arbrites force working alongside the Sororitas to purge the heretic.

Sorry, but again, Sisters are about as tightly bound to the rules as you can get. There's no "renegade" Sisters in that regard, either. And the average Sisterhood is more than plenty bloodthirsty, I don't see any reason to make them renegade except to try to make them look cool. Which is kind of a silly reason.

That said, you may also look into Black Templars as there is, according to the BT section of the codex, "a complex relationship of mutual honor and respect" between the Sororitas and Templars. As far as Space Marine level allies go, they (or any other Marine chapter except the Space Wolves, really) are a solid bet.

Another angle is the Militarum Tempestus, as they all come from the same source. It is likely that they would work together.

That's true, I generally still think of the Tempestus as being a kind of Guard. ^^;

But yeah, when it comes to graduation day at the Schola, the best fighters go into the Tempestus Militarum, and the most faithful are split up by gender to either go into the Commissariat or the Sororitas.

Everyone else gets shuffled off to the Administratum, which is why you really don't want to go attacking any high-level Imperial council buildings, 'cause those secretaries went to school with the badasses.

How about fire angels? They use ultramarines chapter tactics and they have good bounds with sororitas.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Angels

 calamarialldayerrday wrote:
When I said renegade, I didn't mean anti-Imperium, just that they do their own thing. They're a little more bloodthirsty than the average Sister, so they don't quite follow the rules.

That's... entirely counter to how the Sisters operate. That's an entire Order begging to go Repentia.

Hmm. Maybe. Although there doesn't seem to be as much diversity in the Black Templar range.

Other than the color of their armor and cloaks, there's no diversity within the Sisterhood, either, really.

As far as common allies?

The Imperial Guard, the Black Templars (historic allies in some actions), Adeptus Arbites, Frateris Militia (could maybe duplicate this if Chenkov's SITNW rule is still in the IG Codex), and an Inquisitor and his/her warband.

IG and PDF would be their most common allies.

I think I will go for Black Templars. I just want to have some kind of story to my armies. I'm a heretic at heart. I have thought about making a fiercely loyalist army, but I can't bring myself to do it. Thanks for the advice guys!

 calamarialldayerrday wrote:
When I said renegade, I didn't mean anti-Imperium, just that they do their own thing. They're a little more bloodthirsty than the average Sister, so they don't quite follow the rules.

They don't do this either.
Like most forces of the Imperium they will end up fighting alongside PDF or guardsmen most of the time.

 curran12 wrote:
I don't see any reason to make them renegade except to try to make them look cool. Which is kind of a silly reason.

No, it is a great reason to shape anything in a fiction universe. It is a silly way of obtaining the very desirable effect of making them look cool.

I agree with IG/Frateris Milita being the most natural ally, with Inquisition next, and then the rainbow marines, with the black templars being the best candidate. The dark green or, even more, light gray marines would not go well with sisters.

I'm thinking of the Imperial Guards or the Black Templars.

Depends on the Order, the Sisters aren't a monolithic one-dimensional entity any more than the Space Marines are. Any Imperial force that doesn't make common use of psykers would be perfectly sensible, more details would require more details about the Sisters involved and the other Imperial forces involved.

(But probably not the Dark Angels any way you slice it, too many secrets and too many Librarians)

AnomanderRake wrote:Depends on the Order, the Sisters aren't a monolithic one-dimensional entity any more than the Space Marines are.

Technically, GW's Liber Sororitas would disagree here.
But it all depends on which version/source of fluff one follows, of course.

I would think it would be Eldar.

Think about it. They could stay up late and do each others hair and nails. They could talk about that one Commissar with the cute butt. You know who I mean

 Happyjew wrote:
I would think it would be Eldar.

Think about it. They could stay up late and do each others hair and nails. They could talk about that one Commissar with the cute butt. You know who I mean

Red Hunters is a FW marine chapter that has close ties with both Inquisition and Sisters

Salamanders have a similar play style and equipment. Other than that, I'd go with BT.

There's a bunch of SM Chapters that are close to/active supporters of the Imperial Creed that would, I think, be viable allies for the Sisters, especially if you were doing a Faith Crusade or War of Faith narrative game.

 Aleph-Sama wrote:
Salamanders have a similar play style and equipment.

The Salamanders came to the Sisters rescue on Sepulchre IV ('Fireborn'), and fought together with them vs. the Black Legion on Heletine ("Rebirth').

 Furyou Miko wrote:

The "army" they're most likely to team up with is the Frateris Militia - sadly, they don't have rules under the current edition, but basically think Chaos Cultists covered in Imperial Aquilas and led by Priests.

Easily handled with the IG rules, blob platoons with Priests.

 Happyjew wrote:
I would think it would be Eldar.

Think about it. They could stay up late and do each others hair and nails. They could talk about that one Commissar with the cute butt. You know who I mean

He has a point though.

Unlike 6th edition, Eldar and Sisters can ally now :3

 Vector Strike wrote:
Red Hunters is a FW marine chapter that has close ties with both Inquisition and Sisters

Do you mean the Red Scorpions?

 Sir Arun wrote:

 Happyjew wrote:
I would think it would be Eldar.

Think about it. They could stay up late and do each others hair and nails. They could talk about that one Commissar with the cute butt. You know who I mean

He has a point though.

Unlike 6th edition, Eldar and Sisters can ally now :3

They could ally in 6th. Now they are better buddies.

 Lynata wrote:
But it all depends on which version/source of fluff one follows, of course.

As far as I know, all source say the Sisters have less divergence between Orders than marine have between chapters.

 calamarialldayerrday wrote:
When I said renegade, I didn't mean anti-Imperium, just that they do their own thing. They're a little more bloodthirsty than the average Sister, so they don't quite follow the rules.

The could probably be pretty easily led astray by a radical Cardinal assuming he wasn't too far off the reservation. The most recent Space Wolves novel by Chris Wraight has two small Sisters Orders in it, the one is pretty much unquestioningly loyal to the Cardinal.

The nice thing about about religious fanatics is that if you're good enough, you can easily manipulate those beliefs to your own ends.

However, true "renegade" Sisters are probably not going to be fluffy. Part of their schtick is they can't be bothered with difficult stuff like thinking. They kill heretics and the enforce the word of the Ecclesiarchy.


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 Vaktathi wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:

The "army" they're most likely to team up with is the Frateris Militia - sadly, they don't have rules under the current edition, but basically think Chaos Cultists covered in Imperial Aquilas and led by Priests.

Easily handled with the IG rules, blob platoons with Priests.

Conscripts would be the most accurate for standard rabble. It's too bad they can't be taken as a troops choice by themselves.

They could ally in 6th. Now they are better buddies.

All they really did was move them up to the realm of "Well, okay, I won't kill you if we have a common goal to survive.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
The could probably be pretty easily led astray by a radical Cardinal assuming he wasn't too far off the reservation.

Part of their job is checking if the Priests and Cardinals are faithful and loyal and dealing with them if they are not. So, only if the Sisters are not very good…