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I was wondering what everyone was thinking about Mr. Obama taking a stance and a side on every one of these issues of white/hispanicon black crimes. I was always told that he was the president of the u.s.a. but he seems to jump on the band wagon and agrees with the black person before all information is out. Doesn't this kinda support the us and them type of thinking?

I know I have friends of every colour and religion and we fight alot about well any and everything but we never "well I never noticed" anyone saying he is right before anything coming out due to it is their race aswell. I just know that if they switched positions and in the us had a white president and he sided with the white guy every time it would be a raciest president and riots but this is a exception? I am actually really confused on all this stuff.

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Interesting and valid question, but I'm afraid there will be no satisfactory answer.


I had some otjer things to say, but what I was going to write about is too sad for words, so I will edit and move on.

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Im not touching this thread with a 10 ft pole

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Then don't make spammy, off topic, attention seeking posts in it. If you don't like a thread's topic, or don't want to post in it, then don't.

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All I'm saying is this thread is going to no end well.

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Think Obama need to
A. Gather all information
B. Give a perception to favor one side
C. Explain how a Grand Jury work
D. Not input a personnel remark
E. Slam all notions of Grand Jury decisions by individuals to not become PUBLIC. Even what the vote was and by what race.

to name a few

If a Obama bash happens I will be quick to point how STUPID that route will take us.
If someone even suggest race card by either Obama and/or Holder is being played then I will be quick to defend both of them.
I'm an NCO and will conduct this thread as an NCO to facilitate this discussion
Mot if you edit someone remarks do me a favor and post copy and send to me

I will not post the remark again but will answer as an NCO as point/counter point

Some need to learn to separate professionalism from personnel feeling

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He is, of course, entitled to his opinion. but making public statements saying anything more than "everybody needs to play nice" are a problem.

The president has no business butting into local jurisdiction or rulings outside the purview of his office.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
He is, of course, entitled to his opinion. but making public statements saying anything more than "everybody needs to play nice" are a problem.

The president has no business butting into local jurisdiction or rulings outside the purview of his office.


That's very true. Why I think he needs all the information in front of him to see how the thought process went from A to B to C to Conclusion. He also trying to stay ahead of the game to to side with the "Peaceful Protesters" and condemning those who take advantage of the situation. Holder on the other hand is also playing along with Obama but continuing an investigation for Civil Violations of Brown but I have a feeling that once a judgement is render that it will be Holder explaining it out in detail on how they came to that conclusion.

We have two racially charge incidents involving the death of Black Americans. Can you imagine Obama and Holder not making statements on these incidents.
Its already mention in the media that those Black Americans who agrees with the decision of the Grand Juries are being consider "Uncle Tom" slander because they are not "Black enough"

Just came to mind if i type down like what I would discuss in a EO session to my troops might be construed to me be a Racist, bigot, and/or something stupid. I do not want to get into a discussion with someone who narrow minded and is unwilling to see the other side of the coin including the round edge of coin.

Ask me to clarify please before Mod Hammering me

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It was a serious problem with the Zimmerman case too.

His remarks there were totally out of line, especially the imaginary son bits.

It appears he's, sort of, learned his lesson. Although he has still commented way too much on it.

Frankly, I think all 3 of these cases were people looking(desperately) for racism where there was none. Its easier than looking at the actual problem(if there even was one in the first place)

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Probably work

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 Grey Templar wrote:
It was a serious problem with the Zimmerman case too.

His remarks there were totally out of line, especially the imaginary son bits.

It appears he's, sort of, learned his lesson. Although he has still commented way too much on it.

Frankly, I think all 3 of these cases were people looking(desperately) for racism where there was none. Its easier than looking at the actual problem(if there even was one in the first place)


Let's not forget the media play into it to
"White Hispanic"


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 daedalus wrote:
Obummer is history's greatest monster. He's the devil and he serves only the un-American Islamic interests.

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Can't tell if troll or actually stupid.

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 Ustrello wrote:
 daedalus wrote:
Obummer is history's greatest monster. He's the devil and he serves only the un-American Islamic interests.

(unsubscribes thread)


Can't tell if troll or actually stupid.


Sarcasm. Daedalus a damn good debater

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Chicago

 Jihadin wrote:
 Ustrello wrote:
 daedalus wrote:
Obummer is history's greatest monster. He's the devil and he serves only the un-American Islamic interests.

(unsubscribes thread)


Can't tell if troll or actually stupid.


Sarcasm. Daedalus a damn good debater


Carry on then.

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 daedalus wrote:
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There's no "Thanks Obama" or "Asking for medical/legal advice" square.

Needs updating.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
There's no "Thanks Obama" or "Asking for medical/legal advice" square.

Needs updating.
Yes there is. Go to the actual bingo link in Ouze's signature, refresh it a few times, and it will pop up.

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Reportedly, Al Sharpton was at the WH discussions on civil issues recently. Thats the antithesis of a good idea.


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 Grey Templar wrote:
He is, of course, entitled to his opinion. but making public statements saying anything more than "everybody needs to play nice" are a problem.

The president has no business butting into local jurisdiction or rulings outside the purview of his office.


Agreed. FOcus on issues of federal concern.

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 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:
There's no "Thanks Obama" or "Asking for medical/legal advice" square.

Needs updating.
Yes there is. Go to the actual bingo link in Ouze's signature, refresh it a few times, and it will pop up.


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The idea that the President of the US shouldn't speak on what are now months of widespread domestic turmoil that have spread to many other states is a fairly stupid one, in my opinion.

Shouldn't intervene unless it becomes federal, sure. Should pretend it's not happening? That's pretty clownshoes even for the "history's greatest monster" crowd.


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From an outsiders point of view, it does seem that way, HOWEVER, it also seemed that Bush was slow in reacting to any emergency that involved majority black areas, BUT, after his presidency ended and an objective look could be taken at it, most of the issue was the media portrait of events rather than the facts.

It may well be the way on this. Is Obama speaking out on these things, or is he being asked questions time and again in press conferences, and only the sound bites that fit the "biased president" making the news?

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 Ouze wrote:
The idea that the President of the US shouldn't speak on what are now months of widespread domestic turmoil that have spread to many other states is a fairly stupid one, in my opinion.

Shouldn't intervene unless it becomes federal, sure. Should pretend it's not happening? That's pretty clownshoes even for the "history's greatest monster" crowd.



Obama is almost as bad as this guy!



Education belongs to the states and a Federal President should never interfere with local education and read to kids at a local school!

But yeah, it's stupid to complain about a President of the United States commenting on stuff that is happening in the United States.
   
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 Ouze wrote:
The idea that the President of the US shouldn't speak on what are now months of widespread domestic turmoil that have spread to many other states is a fairly stupid one, in my opinion.

Shouldn't intervene unless it becomes federal, sure. Should pretend it's not happening? That's pretty clownshoes even for the "history's greatest monster" crowd.


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Considering most of the time his comments inflame the sitatuation, yes he should stick to : every keep calm and carry on or shut the hell up.
EDIT: I will state that his comments last week after the Ferguson no bill were calm and exactly what was needed. of course no one listened, then he had the meeting with Sharpton. Bad move.



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 Ouze wrote:
The idea that the President of the US shouldn't speak on what are now months of widespread domestic turmoil that have spread to many other states is a fairly stupid one, in my opinion.

Shouldn't intervene unless it becomes federal, sure. Should pretend it's not happening? That's pretty clownshoes even for the "history's greatest monster" crowd.



Obama is almost as bad as this guy!



Education belongs to the states and a Federal President should never interfere with local education and read to kids at a local school!

But yeah, it's stupid to complain about a President of the United States commenting on stuff that is happening in the United States.


I don't know what you're talking about. We now have proof that Bush could in fact read.

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For arguments sake, I did a google search for "Clinton response to LA Riots"
In the results, was a fairly interesting pictorial article on how both Bush Sr. and Clinton responded in the midst of a Presidential Campaign to the LA Riots.


IMO, it's the best incident to compare it to, though we're not to the same scale at this point as LA in 92.
   
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 Frazzled wrote:

Considering most of the time his comments inflame the sitatuation, yes he should stick to : every keep calm and carry on or shut the hell up.
EDIT: I will state that his comments last week after the Ferguson no bill were calm and exactly what was needed. of course no one listened,

My only quibble on his Ferguson post non-indictment is the timing. I'd rather he'd say that the night before, and again the next morning prior to the announcement.

What he said was on the mark. (except, I'd like for him to explain the GJ process a bit and go out of his way to "thank" the police for their efforts).

*shrug*

Instead, we'd get this split screen:


Let me add, I'm playing Monday Morning Quarter backing here... so, it's not really a slam on my part. Just... I wish it was handled differently. That's all.
then he had the meeting with Sharpton. Bad move.


Agreed. He's legitimizing Al Sharpton here.

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any meeting with so called 'community leaders' who were not born, brought up and still resident within 5 miles of the incident is just dumb

IN general such community leaders have a an axe to grind, want to be on TV or both

 
   
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Isn't that the class Bush was reading to when the Towers got nailed?

Anyone wonder if Sharpton got called into the WH for the talks might have been told to calm the Hell down?

As for the LA Riots the 82nd Ready BDE was moved to ALOC at Pope and locked down till CA activated the National Guards there

Blaming Bush for dipping into Education policy is like blaming Obama for dipping into Immigration policy

CNN screwed the pooch for split screening Obama speech and showing the riots



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 Frazzled wrote:

Considering most of the time his comments inflame the sitatuation, yes he should stick to : every keep calm and carry on or shut the hell up.
EDIT: I will state that his comments last week after the Ferguson no bill were calm and exactly what was needed. of course no one listened, then he had the meeting with Sharpton. Bad move.
His comments are inflammatory to people who don't like him and are looking for a reason to use anything he does/says against him. As annoying as it is, there is no way anyone can deny that is absolutely the reality we live in.

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Sharpton toned downed his rheteric (bad spelling)

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