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"Panic Room"

 Jihadin wrote:
"Panic Room"

Panic Room is where the Mossy lives, along with several Bug In Bags LOL.

 easysauce wrote:


I cant store them up here like this, but if it was legal, I would have mag fed stuff in the safe with the mag inserted but no chambered round (so it wont cook off in a fire) for shotties, same thing, rounds in the mag, none in the chamber,

Not sure how a round 'cooking off' in the chamber (which is designed to have rounds go off in it) would be bad as opposed to the rounds in the inserted magazine cooking off. And if the round in the chamber could cook off, so could the ones in the magazine.

 CptJake wrote:

 easysauce wrote:


I cant store them up here like this, but if it was legal, I would have mag fed stuff in the safe with the mag inserted but no chambered round (so it wont cook off in a fire) for shotties, same thing, rounds in the mag, none in the chamber,

Not sure how a round 'cooking off' in the chamber (which is designed to have rounds go off in it) would be bad as opposed to the rounds in the inserted magazine cooking off. And if the round in the chamber could cook off, so could the ones in the magazine.

General Knowledge for those who are not overly familiar
If one suspect a a round capable of "cooking off" keep the barrel down range

Either a jam while barrel is hot
or
"Click, no bang"
or when in "doubt"

wait a bit and then remove the round

 CptJake wrote:

 easysauce wrote:


I cant store them up here like this, but if it was legal, I would have mag fed stuff in the safe with the mag inserted but no chambered round (so it wont cook off in a fire) for shotties, same thing, rounds in the mag, none in the chamber,

Not sure how a round 'cooking off' in the chamber (which is designed to have rounds go off in it) would be bad as opposed to the rounds in the inserted magazine cooking off. And if the round in the chamber could cook off, so could the ones in the magazine.

if you have a mag loaded, with a round chambered, and its in a fire, it will shoot and cycle another round possibly. also, a bullet is desinged to be shot from the barrel as you say, which is why a round cooking off in the chamber is HORRIBLE as its shooting the projectile at high speeds out the barrel, as opposed to loose/in the mag where it just pops open harmlessly.

its the difference between the fire basically pulling the trigger, shooting a round, or more, and those rounds having the same effect as bullets normally fired from the gun,

and the ammo just popping open harmlessly in the fire

 whembly wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
Where you think they can't reach. You should probably get a safe, IMO.

Yeah... been researching for gun safe for some time now.

The shells are in a locked firebox on the top shelf. But, as anyone knows, kids can get into anything, locked or not... so, gun safe is on the agenda soon.

8 and 10 are also prime ages to be working on firearm safety, so that they'll know even if it's unlocked, out or whatever, not to mess with it. And if they have friends over, your kids will know to keep the friends away from areas where the firearms are at, or to lock them up before it's an issue

Dammmit....should not have watched John Wayne westerns...I am seriously looking at Henry rifles....or an M14 for $1800

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
Where you think they can't reach. You should probably get a safe, IMO.

Yeah... been researching for gun safe for some time now.

The shells are in a locked firebox on the top shelf. But, as anyone knows, kids can get into anything, locked or not... so, gun safe is on the agenda soon.

8 and 10 are also prime ages to be working on firearm safety, so that they'll know even if it's unlocked, out or whatever, not to mess with it. And if they have friends over, your kids will know to keep the friends away from areas where the firearms are at, or to lock them up before it's an issue

Oh yeah... I gave them that. I plan on some more as well...

My fiancie's brother is a St. Louis County police officer and we're planning a whole firearm safety session soon. (plus, he haz all da gunz)

 Jihadin wrote:
Dammmit....should not have watched John Wayne westerns...I am seriously looking at Henry rifles....or an M14 for $1800

BOTH!

 Jihadin wrote:
Dammmit....should not have watched John Wayne westerns...I am seriously looking at Henry rifles....or an M14 for $1800

A good 45-70 Henry will cost you half that!


For a bit more, you can get a Uberti Yellow Boy:

^ Those are Beautiful! I would like to have a Henry (or two ) some day but at the moment my 44-40 Rossi does the job well, and it was cheap.

So I've been working on some design notes for a fully functioning (and by functioning I mean useable, not just actually fires) gun blade. First I've identified the ideal place style as the Celtic Falcata, this is a single edged, machete like combat weapon that is short and designed to be wielded with a single hand.



As you can see here the blade in this type of sword curves after a certain point, this drop, while providing a brutal and efficent slashing weapon, also clears the barrel of any potential weapon mounted along the spine of the blade. The real issue as I see it is keeping both weapons comfortably functional within their own rights from a care and maintenance stand point. A revolver based gun blade I see as being impractical, welding or merging the barrel of the firearm with the blade itself would A. impact accuracy by placing pressure on the barrel and B. make a barrel change a nightmare.

I then considering semi-automatic firearms. With the technical consideration that a longer barrel is likely better in this application and that the receiver of the pistol is going to have to be married to the frame, most likely via welding, I think the logical choice is a long slide 1911 in .45 ACP, To retain ease of take down and accessability, "rails" and a slightly fuller on the back of the blade, as well as a groove to let the barrel bushing turn will be required, but they shouldn't affect performance or the bladed part of the weapon. If there's a fouling concern, a small metal insert could be made to bolt in covering the bushing fuller (I'd use small screws here, like pistol sight small)

Attachment of the blade to the reciever is a bit of a bug bear as it needs to be both functional, and look attractive, there isn't much "play" in a 1911 receiver, so except for a small on through the trigger guard, bolts aren't an option, which leaves some very careful and tricky welding. I'm not sure that will be enough to stand up to regular heavy use. With a normal hilt (on a well made sword) the tang of the blade extends well into the hilt providing it strength. With the attachment points so close to the "surface" I'd find certain types of impact on the blade worrying.

Keeping the blade light enough that the pistol still swings easily enough for one handed use is another point that can be countered with fullers (improperly referred to as blood grooves) and just generally keeping everything properly balanced to start with, though excessive fullering of the blade WILL weaken it.

This is just my initial thoughts on the matter, but I think these technical issues are all pretty simple to overcome with some applied research and maybe a few test shots and consulting with local swordsmiths.

So I fired a gun today, some kind of Beretta Over & Under at a clay pigeon shooting range. It was my Dad's idea to go along but I ended up really enjoying it.

There's something inherently satisfying about seeing that small disk explode into hundreds of tiny pieces.

I totally forgot to ask which model it was at the time. Was a tad nervous at first. It took me a while to realise that I had to be a little bit forceful when opening the action (? Oh god my terminology) when reloading, I was treating it as if it would shatter in my hands at first.

From looking online it seems like it was perhaps in the 680 series. Really smart looking.

The strangest thing I noticed that it wasn't as loud as I thought it was going to be. Or more accurately it was loud in a different way than I expected.

I'm totally considering taking it up as a hobby, although I appreciate that it's fairly pricey to get going. I think i'll sign up for some lessons and roll from there.

Obviously don't own a gun, but thought I'd share here rather than create a new thread.

When it comes to grips for a shotgun (Pistol, or full stock) for in the home, I think a full stock adds a little too much bulk. However a pistol grip (the ones that look like a Semi-auto pistol grip) are a pain to fire and hurt your wrist.

That's why I found this happy piece of equipment for my Mossberg 500: http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=1594

It's almost as short as a regular pistol grip, but WAY more comfortable to shoot.



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 Medium of Death wrote:
So I fired a gun today, some kind of Beretta Over & Under at a clay pigeon shooting range. It was my Dad's idea to go along but I ended up really enjoying it.

There's something inherently satisfying about seeing that small disk explode into hundreds of tiny pieces.

I totally forgot to ask which model it was at the time. Was a tad nervous at first. It took me a while to realise that I had to be a little bit forceful when opening the action (? Oh god my terminology) when reloading, I was treating it as if it would shatter in my hands at first.

From looking online it seems like it was perhaps in the 680 series. Really smart looking.

The strangest thing I noticed that it wasn't as loud as I thought it was going to be. Or more accurately it was loud in a different way than I expected.

I'm totally considering taking it up as a hobby, although I appreciate that it's fairly pricey to get going. I think i'll sign up for some lessons and roll from there.

Obviously don't own a gun, but thought I'd share here rather than create a new thread.

Skeet shooting is great fun. My sister in law has won a few competitions and can out shoot me in skeet. (though not in other areas. )

When it comes to what I keep, and how I keep it, in my home I have a vast majority of my personal arms collection in a locked room. They are also in a locked gun case. They also all have trigger locks on them. The pistols are additionally kept in locked storage cases inside the gun case.

Ammunition is kept in a separate locked case inside locked ammo cans.

If my children wanted to fire any these handguns in my home they would need to defeat a minimum of 6 locks.


I do however keep two fully-loaded .38 special revolvers hidden in my home. They are cheap, but functional. When I did some home remodeling I hung them on cradles INSIDE the walls in discreet locations with a thinner layer of breakable material over them. I then textured the walls and painted. You would have no idea where they are if I didn't tell you. In an emergency I could literally punch into the wall with my hand and have a loaded gun ready for me. Kind of a "break Glass in Case of Emergency" kind of deal.

I must be irresponsible, I almost sleep with a loaded handgun under the pillow.

Instead is is unloaded next to the pillow (on the nightstand). Granted we have no children (nor do we have any over).

Cuda, I love the guns hidden in the walls. Way cooler than the hidden gun furniture that doesn't work because people post pictures everywhere.


Switching gears away from safes, anyone else super excited for the HK VP9. As a HK fanboy, I can't wait to get one. If I didn't have to pay for a semester of class, I would buy 3 of them.

 cuda1179 wrote:
When it comes to what I keep, and how I keep it, in my home I have a vast majority of my personal arms collection in a locked room. They are also in a locked gun case. They also all have trigger locks on them. The pistols are additionally kept in locked storage cases inside the gun case.

Ammunition is kept in a separate locked case inside locked ammo cans.

If my children wanted to fire any these handguns in my home they would need to defeat a minimum of 6 locks.


I do however keep two fully-loaded .38 special revolvers hidden in my home. They are cheap, but functional. When I did some home remodeling I hung them on cradles INSIDE the walls in discreet locations with a thinner layer of breakable material over them. I then textured the walls and painted. You would have no idea where they are if I didn't tell you. In an emergency I could literally punch into the wall with my hand and have a loaded gun ready for me. Kind of a "break Glass in Case of Emergency" kind of deal.

you sir,

are doing it right!


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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
So I've been working on some design notes for a fully functioning (and by functioning I mean useable, not just actually fires) gun blade.

cool, I hope that works out for you, but I would have to second the revolver idea, seems like a moving slide on the 1911 would give a lot of ways for the slide to get in the way of the sword.

things like the kokuri, since they have the angled grip might work well, but to be frank, it sounds a lot like my trials with pistol bayonets.

kind of fun and funny,

200% impractical and worse then just carrying a sword and gun lol

With the design I've sketched out, the action will be well clear of the blade with no problem.

In other news I am coveting a Lionheart LH9

Huh. Well I'll be damned. That is a thing that exists.

I posses my pet alligator as my primary weapon. My secondary weapons are the darts from my alligator.

Remington 870
Eotech xps-2 holo sight
AR stock conversion
Hydraulic recoil buffer
Red laser
This is my duty gun for room clearing and standoffs.

Wilson combat 1911 custom
Bulletproof everything
VZ grips with enhanced mag release cutout
Concealed carry/duty sidearm
The most accurate handgun I've ever fired. Will put 8 shots through a quarter at 25 yards.

Custom built AR-15 in 5.56
Harris bipod
Leupold optics
LAR-OPS4 ambi side charging upper
This is my SPR. Accurate to 800 yards with black hills 77gr bthp match hand loads. An absolute tack driver. Good for anything from groundhogs to humans although I prefer the 7.62x51 for the latter.

Tavor-chan wants you to get a new bullpup today!

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:


Tavor-chan wants you to get a new bullpup today!

am I the only one turned on by her finger being off the trigger?

mmmmm safe is sexy

I wish more people at the range knew about that.

Just got back from shooting and only got muzzle swiped three times this time, and only once by someone with a magazine still in!



Also, trying to hit a hundred yard target with crappy indoor lighting and iron sights gets...interesting.

 easysauce wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:


Tavor-chan wants you to get a new bullpup today!

am I the only one turned on by her finger being off the trigger?

mmmmm safe is sexy

I just spit out my soda all over my monitor. Thank you for that

Tavor-chan is Israel, and as Hamas propaganda teaches, all Israelis are trained into elite, professional killing machines from a young age, so proper weapons safety is second nature!

I use the lego sword I built.

Got some quality rangetime this weekend. AK irons at 100 yards is always interesting.

Ahhhhh, I'd love to have a AK-74. They're so neat.