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Arks are slow Warrior carriers with special rules boosting Warriors.
Everything else will need Scythe for fast movement so that argument is invalid


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And I agree - we need Wraiths, badly. Wraithwing + DestroLord FTW!

I agree herr, but i'm trying to reason with GW's way of thinking.

IHateNids wrote:I agree herr, but i'm trying to reason with GW's way of thinking.

Well, there's your problem... GW and reason go together like a polar bear wearing a tutu.

that's a good point...

Ah, gotta love Wraithwing, I recently ran one unit with a D lord and another with a C'tan w/ Time's Arrow and they kicked ass.

So, totally off topic but has anyone else noticed that GW hasn't updated the "planetstrike" section where the "attackers" and "defenders" are listed, they still have some of the old necron models listed there with the old stats and such.

Sorry, I just noticed it and wanted to point it out but not make a thread about it. Heh.

Good point

How many of the new releases for the crons do you think will be in finecast? I've had a bunch of trouble with finecast looking really shoddy and the prospect of more shoddy models scares me a tad. For example I bought a cryptek a couple of days ago took it home and primed it after removing all of the odd bits of chaff and the model has a textured quality to it instead of nice and smooth like a plastic kit. So I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about this.

Well, units we have left:
Tomb blades
Spyders
Wraiths
Triarch Stalker
Night Scythe/Doom Scythe
Potential Destroyer redux
Potential Warrior redux
Potential Monolith redux

Let's limit this discussion to things that we KNOW are coming, and so I'll leave off the redux kits.
Well, they haven't done any vehicle kits in Finecast. It's not that they can't, it's just that they haven't. So that effectively eliminates Stalkers, and Scythes.
I'd say that there is an outside chance that Spyders, Wraiths, or Tomb Blades will be made out of Finecast. Outside, I say because they are going to be multi-part kits with lots of options, and we haven't seen anything like that in Finecast yet.

I think that Finecast will be limited to our Flayed Ones and IC's. It wouldn't surprise me to see Finecast crypteks show up over the next few years.

Anpu-adom wrote:I think that Finecast will be limited to our Flayed Ones and IC's. It wouldn't surprise me to see Finecast crypteks show up over the next few years.

The future is now!.

I'm guessing you meant a different unit.

I'm pretty sure he meant makes for the different harbringers, the current model is armed with a Staff of light

That would make sense.

I personally think that finecast is the biggest fail since the old necron codex. But I also think that the 5 ICs (Anrakyr the traveller, Illuminor Szeras, Orikan the diviner, Nemesor Zahndrekh and Vargard Obyron) will be finecast releases. The rest should be plastic.

The possibility of different finecasted harbingers is ok, but considering i converted my own and my entire FLGS says they look better than GW's bearded freaks, I won't buy any.

EDIT: spelling

IHateNids wrote:i converted my own and my entire FLGS says they look better than GW's bearded freaks

Pics?

I'll sort something out, but they are just undercoated. I can't paint very well :(

So an interesting thought from the former GW employee discussion. Kits are priced on a combination of how well they will sell and how the community views the model.
For example, warriors cost $2 more than immortals because of the scarabs and the perceived 'value' 12 warriors.

A combined spyder/wraith kit will sell very well for a Xenos kit. Almost every necron player will want 12. (So roughly 2% of the GW customers will buy 4 boxes) But it isn't a space marine kit either.
The community would place a high value on a wraiths, because they are believed to be one of the best units in the codex.

We can expect a high cost.

I'd just guess the wraiths would be 3 to a box for $45 or so since that's the price point for "3 larger infantry-ish models" like Fantasy's been getting lately.

I can deal with 3 for $45.

It's better than the 3 for $60 when they were metal.

In british pounds that's, what, about 3 for £30?

I can live with that.

What do you think about the Night Scythe/Doom Scythe?

I see Necon players buying 3-5 kits a piece.
That would mean that Necron players will buy them at the same rate that Space Marines would buy Rhino/Razorback kits.

Would that place them at the $35 price point? Or do you think they would go higher? In the art, they seem much larger than a Rhino (which doesn't bode well.)

That question is answered by another: Is the Rhino/Razorback a combi-kit? If it is, then yes the Scythe(s) will be a combi as well. If not, then no. Lets face it, as far as kits go, if GW haven't given it to SM, then no other army will get a similar kit.

I'm still amazed that nids have a triple kit (granted trygon-trygonprime is next to difference at all)

You can buy a Razorback kit, and it includes all the pieces to make a Rhino (for $2 more). There's no question that the Scythe's are a combo kit...

I'm wondering what you all think the cost will be?
$35
$40
$50

Brother SRM wrote:I'd just guess the wraiths would be 3 to a box for $45 or so since that's the price point for "3 larger infantry-ish models" like Fantasy's been getting lately.

I have a strong feeling wraiths will be single model boxes like destroyers, so don't get your hopes up for a multi model box.

Anpu-adom wrote:You can buy a Razorback kit, and it includes all the pieces to make a Rhino (for $2 more). There's no question that the Scythe's are a combo kit...

I'm wondering what you all think the cost will be?
$35
$40
$50

I'd say whatever £20 equates to. $35, about?

Anpu-adom wrote:You can buy a Razorback kit, and it includes all the pieces to make a Rhino (for $2 more). There's no question that the Scythe's are a combo kit...

I'm wondering what you all think the cost will be?
$35
$40
$50

Scythes will most likely cost the same as the CCB. 35USD. And actually will probably be similar to the CCB in that it will be a dual kit but you can freely switch the bottom part from the gun for the Doom Scythe to the portal for the Night Scythe. Just like you can do with the CCB/AnnBarge.

Also, warriors don't cost more than immortals, I don't think. I'm pretty sure that both those boxes are 33USD. In fact, I think all the unit boxes right now are 33 except for the failed [flayed] ones.

lol (failed ones) but painfully true.

Immortals do techniquely equate to more than warriors bacause both kits are £20.50 ($33). Warriors you get 12 + 4 scarab swarms (who dosen't like those? ) Immortals you get five, but it is a Deathmark/Immortal combi.

I'm thinking that Night and Doom Scythes are more likely to be somewhere on the DE Razorwing to Ghost Ark scale. I think $33 to $35 dollars is substantially lower that what it will wind up being. I'm expecting it to be more in the $40-$50 range. I'll just be glad if it's not in the Storm Raven/Valkyrie range of $66.

IHateNids wrote:lol (failed ones) but painfully true.

Immortals do techniquely equate to more than warriors bacause both kits are £20.50 ($33). Warriors you get 12 + 4 scarab swarms (who dosen't like those? ) Immortals you get five, but it is a Deathmark/Immortal combi.

Oh, ya if you think of it that way I suppose you're right.


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Death By Monkeys wrote:I'm thinking that Night and Doom Scythes are more likely to be somewhere on the DE Razorwing to Ghost Ark scale. I think $33 to $35 dollars is substantially lower that what it will wind up being. I'm expecting it to be more in the $40-$50 range. I'll just be glad if it's not in the Storm Raven/Valkyrie range of $66.

I highly doubt they will, that is reserved for the monolith. At most I'd expect them to be 45 but only if it's a dual kit that can used as either/or and NOT like the ghost/doomsday ark kit where it is only one or the other.

MSRP for warriors is $35 US, and Immortals, Praetorians, and the CCBarge/Annibarge is $33 US.

I hope you guys are right in Scythes being rhino prices.