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It should be if the self-proclaimed roumor guy at my FLGS is anything to go by.

But then again, he thought the Vampire Counts were october 2011

Anpu-adom wrote:

Tomb blades
Spyders
Wraiths
Triarch Stalker
Night Scythe/Doom Scythe

March/April 2012

How many tomb blades do y'all think will come in a box? Will it be 3 or just 1 like destroyers?
and please let it be early March! I don't want to wait another month for my shiny skeletons of doom.

Hammer18 wrote:How many tomb blades do y'all think will come in a box? Will it be 3 or just 1 like destroyers?
and please let it be early March! I don't want to wait another month for my shiny skeletons of doom.

Late March (last week) & first week of April.....

Hammer18 wrote:How many tomb blades do y'all think will come in a box? Will it be 3 or just 1 like destroyers?
and please let it be early March! I don't want to wait another month for my shiny skeletons of doom.

Ugh, I'm hoping 3. It may be a single box, I sure hope not though.

@krazynad: darn. oh well. t least illl have before the summer
@sasori: yes single boxes are almost taunting.

Kevin949 wrote:
I have a strong feeling wraiths will be single model boxes like destroyers, so don't get your hopes up for a multi model box.

What large infantry models have they released one to a box of recently? I can't think of any off the top of my head. Destroyers are old figures from another era.

IHateNids wrote:That question is answered by another: Is the Rhino/Razorback a combi-kit? If it is, then yes the Scythe(s) will be a combi as well. If not, then no. Lets face it, as far as kits go, if GW haven't given it to SM, then no other army will get a similar kit.

I'm still amazed that nids have a triple kit (granted trygon-trygonprime is next to difference at all)

Combokits are the norm these days. I don't understand how you can say "Well Space Marines don't have combobkits so Necrons won't!" when literally every plastic kit that came out with the new Necrons release was a kit with options for two or more different units.

I bet somehow GW makes Tomb Blades and Stalkers a combo-kit, I'd be pissed but VERY impressed....

Exalted Pariah wrote:I bet somehow GW makes Tomb Blades and Stalkers a combo-kit, I'd be pissed but VERY impressed....

No. Just no.

I'd love to see Tomb Blades as small Jets, 5 per box - kinda like Dark Eldar Hellions.

Most likely we will get them 3 per box like Reavers. In that case, it would be awesome to ALSO have them as 1-per-box option like SM/CSM/Eldar Bikes...
Too bad Lords / Cryptec can't ride Tomb Blades

Hope all those new Spyder / Wraith / Blade kits will have all gear options for WYSIWYG...

Exalted Pariah wrote:I bet somehow GW makes Tomb Blades and Stalkers a combo-kit, I'd be pissed but VERY impressed....

I would be pissed as well... That would be even more money I would have to give GW. I want at least two full units of Tomb Blades and three Stalkers, not to mention three full units of Wraiths.

Honestly, if they did that, I would have to really think about how much 40k means to me. Since I turned 21, I'm now at the age where I can buy cooler things (handguns/rifles, along with concealed carry/Class 3 licenses), that, while far more expensive have a wider range of uses, and to be honest, are easier to get into. I mean, find a few hours on a saturday morning and take a few friends shotgunning (Skeet/trap/5 stand/whatever). Then attempt to tell me that you didn't enjoy it immensely. It's damn near impossible.

I really do enjoy 40k, but not enough to dump the majority of my paychecks into their money hole. I'm saving around $300 for this second wave, and after that, the next 40k thing I buy will be Tau related.

I could care less how they release Tomb Blades because I will probably never run them. The three best units in the Necron Codex compete for the 3 Fast Attack slots and Blades aren't even in the same ball park as good as any of those.

Brother SRM wrote:Combokits are the norm these days. I don't understand how you can say "Well Space Marines don't have combobkits so Necrons won't!" when literally every plastic kit that came out with the new Necrons release was a kit with options for two or more different units.

Although GW have released all the new cron stuff as combis, I just couldn't see them doing for a Xenos army what hasn't been done for SM

@Hammer My hope is three.

If you go flat out for a 3+ cover save the stealth-generator upgrade means a 2+ cover save. Do that in front of some tau fire warriors (twin linked hitting on two's with another upgrade) youll kill a fair few

NecronLord3 wrote:I could care less how they release Tomb Blades because I will probably never run them. The three best units in the Necron Codex compete for the 3 Fast Attack slots and Blades aren't even in the same ball park as good as any of those.

In full-scale games, yes - Tomb Blades are a waste of slot. But in smaller games, and especially when fighting hordes they are much more useful than Destroyers...

In almost all games against blob-squad IG (<1000pt games) - Scarabs and Destroyers were doing poorly. Especially Destroyers who could be only treated as "wound soak" for Heavy destroyer opening Hydras. But seriously - at that cost I prefer one Stalker with Twin-link Heavy Gauss Cannon.

Against such setup Tomb Blades with Beamers turned out to be very effective. Gunning down hordes and being cheap at same time.
Not to mention mobility. Turbo boost is a powerful tool. Especially with Shadowloom upgrade.

Herr Dexter wrote:Against such setup Tomb Blades with Beamers turned out to be very effective. Gunning down hordes and being cheap at same time.
Not to mention mobility. Turbo boost is a powerful tool. Especially with Shadowloom upgrade.

Thats what I just said. Great minds think alike

And apparently even type posts at same time

I personally prefer tombbldes, dunno why

tomb blades have what old dex destroyers where missing: options. the old dex was 3 destroyers fining 3 S6 ap3 shots a turn. that's it. Tomb Blades are altogether better. upgrades for stealth (2+ cover save after turbo boost) BS5, and twin linked weapons. if equiped with Guass Blasters and the BS5 thing (can't remember it's name) they'll make mincemeat of a guardsmen blob squad. with the Shield Vanes 3+ save they'll survive the return fire.

Unless the guard are in front of a Leman Russ that is

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The Necrons are one of the most ancient races in the galaxy and fought in countless wars before humanity even existed. Yet their fate was sealed when they allied with the C'tan, an ancient race of godlike beings that stripped them of their mortal bodies, leaving them with immortal, but utterly soulless metal bodies. After millions of years asleep, these mighty warriors have now returned to the galaxy and found it in turmoil, their years of hard work destroyed or corrupted by lesser beings. They have only one mission: to re-establish the Necron Dynasties. All those who stand in their way will be destroyed.

The Necron Battleforce contains four plastic units to start the core of your army - Necron Warriors, Immortals, Canoptek Scarabs and a Ghost Ark - which you can lead into battle against the upstart races of the galaxy. It is also a fantastic way to boost the size of an existing Necron army, by giving you more squads to choose from or, alternatively, making your existing units larger.

This set contains 20 Necron Warriors; 5 Immortals (which can alternatively be built as 5 Deathmarks); 5 Canoptek Scarab Swarms, and a Ghost Ark (which can alternatively be built as a Doomsday Ark if you want a little extra firepower). These miniature are supplied unpainted and require assembly - we recommend using Citadel Plastic Glue and Citadel Paints.
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Brother SRM wrote:

Kevin949 wrote:
I have a strong feeling wraiths will be single model boxes like destroyers, so don't get your hopes up for a multi model box.

What large infantry models have they released one to a box of recently? I can't think of any off the top of my head. Destroyers are old figures from another era.

IHateNids wrote:That question is answered by another: Is the Rhino/Razorback a combi-kit? If it is, then yes the Scythe(s) will be a combi as well. If not, then no. Lets face it, as far as kits go, if GW haven't given it to SM, then no other army will get a similar kit.

I'm still amazed that nids have a triple kit (granted trygon-trygonprime is next to difference at all)

Combokits are the norm these days. I don't understand how you can say "Well Space Marines don't have combobkits so Necrons won't!" when literally every plastic kit that came out with the new Necrons release was a kit with options for two or more different units.

What large infantry models are left to release for the necrons? None. You can say destroyers are from another era all you want, but they didn't and aren't changing the model which means they will be one to a box. "Maybe" they'll get rid of the regular destroyer box and only sell the heavy as a dual kit (hopefully all plastic at some point) but that's probably the only change you'll see there. If you want to talk about models from another era, bring up Immortals/Pariahs. Heck, even old flayed ones were only 2 to a blister. Anyway...

Since they're 5 to a squad and sold single, why would you presume that wraiths/spyders (probably dual kit) or tomb blades would be any different since their squad size is so similar? Also, when was 5/6 members of a unit a "large unit"?

IHateNids wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Combokits are the norm these days. I don't understand how you can say "Well Space Marines don't have combobkits so Necrons won't!" when literally every plastic kit that came out with the new Necrons release was a kit with options for two or more different units.

Although GW have released all the new cron stuff as combis, I just couldn't see them doing for a Xenos army what hasn't been done for SM

"Even though GW did X, I can't see them doing X."
You confound me.

Kevin949 wrote:[
What large infantry models are left to release for the necrons? None. You can say destroyers are from another era all you want, but they didn't and aren't changing the model which means they will be one to a box. "Maybe" they'll get rid of the regular destroyer box and only sell the heavy as a dual kit (hopefully all plastic at some point) but that's probably the only change you'll see there. If you want to talk about models from another era, bring up Immortals/Pariahs. Heck, even old flayed ones were only 2 to a blister. Anyway...

Since they're 5 to a squad and sold single, why would you presume that wraiths/spyders (probably dual kit) or tomb blades would be any different since their squad size is so similar? Also, when was 5/6 members of a unit a "large unit"?

I never said Destroyers would get rereleases. I was merely stating that one plastic model to a box isn't seen very often these days outside of the Fantasy character blisters. I was using the large infantry kits from Fantasy lately as an example for how Wraiths may be handled, as they are of similar size. Cases in point:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat570034a&prodId=prod1190056a
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod460008a
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat720005a&prodId=prod1460006a

As for Tomb Blades, well every single bike kit released in the past 5 years has been a 3 pack. One can only assume that they are of similar size and content.

IHateNids wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Combokits are the norm these days. I don't understand how you can say "Well Space Marines don't have combobkits so Necrons won't!" when literally every plastic kit that came out with the new Necrons release was a kit with options for two or more different units.

Although GW have released all the new cron stuff as combis, I just couldn't see them doing for a Xenos army what hasn't been done for SM

Why would it have been done for SM?

The SM kits are old. They were done before the trend of combokits started up in full.

The Tau have two kits which could be rolled together. Hell, they could just drop the Hammerhead box at this point and only sell the Skyray as a Skyray/Hammerhead tank kit since the Skyray includes all the bits to build the Hammerhead. They were released--again--before the trend of combokits began.

With how they've been doing it for years now, it's pretty easy to think that it will be combokits.

Battleforce now on the GW website

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=&prodId=prod1460175a

@Brother SRM. I wasn't sying they did X so they won't do X. I was meerly making a statement. We all know GW rape SM because "SM are the poster boys", so I said that if a Combo Kit for two things that look identicle with one difference (Rhino-Razorback) didn't happen for SM, it seemed unlikely that it would happen for anyone else, esp Xenos.

As for them being old, I've only played 40k for about 18 months, and the only release that I can remember is the Crons.

Well, to put it lightly then:

The last time Codex: Space Marines was updated was before the whole combo kit trend started up. At that time, the Rhino was used by Codex: Daemonhunters and Witchhunters. Both of those Codices had options for Rhinos but not Razorbacks for generic Inquisitors or Inquisitorial Stormtroopers.

Plus, if they were going to combokit the Razorback with anything, it'd likely be the Predator.

IHateNids wrote:@Brother SRM. I wasn't sying they did X so they won't do X. I was meerly making a statement. We all know GW rape SM because "SM are the poster boys", so I said that if a Combo Kit for two things that look identicle with one difference (Rhino-Razorback) didn't happen for SM, it seemed unlikely that it would happen for anyone else, esp Xenos.

As for them being old, I've only played 40k for about 18 months, and the only release that I can remember is the Crons.

I don't think "rape" is the word you're looking for. Most Marine kits were released in 4th edition, going back as far as 2004. As Kanluwen said, the combo kits are a far more recent development and they haven't gone back and redone old Marine kits for the sake of it.

I know, but I was just saying if SM don't have it no other race is stone-set to get it.

krazynadechukr wrote:http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440160a&rootCatGameStyle=


This set contains 20 Necron Warriors; 5 Immortals (which can alternatively be built as 5 Deathmarks); 5 Canoptek Scarab Swarms, and a Ghost Ark (which can alternatively be built as a Doomsday Ark if you want a little extra firepower). These miniature are supplied unpainted and require assembly - we recommend using Citadel Plastic Glue and Citadel Paints.
Availability: This product is available for Advance Order. Release Date Information.



Part Code: 99120110018

That's a pretty nice set actually. Pity I already have 36 warriors though. 56 will be overdoing it.

Awesome to see the Battleforce finally up!

IHateNids wrote:I know, but I was just saying if SM don't have it no other race is stone-set to get it.

Please reread what Brother SRM and I have said.

The reason that SM "don't have it" is because the SM boxes are old. GW doesn't repackage boxes on a whim--nor do they recut sprues for such a whim either.

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krazynadechukr wrote:http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440160a&rootCatGameStyle=


This set contains 20 Necron Warriors; 5 Immortals (which can alternatively be built as 5 Deathmarks); 5 Canoptek Scarab Swarms, and a Ghost Ark (which can alternatively be built as a Doomsday Ark if you want a little extra firepower). These miniature are supplied unpainted and require assembly - we recommend using Citadel Plastic Glue and Citadel Paints.
Availability: This product is available for Advance Order. Release Date Information.



Part Code: 99120110018

That's a pretty nice set actually. Pity I already have 36 warriors though. 56 will be overdoing it.

LoL I have like 70+ warriors. I'm getting the box though because the warrior bits can be used to make the deathmarks as well with a bit of cutting (not much at all, two snips and that's it) and you can use the remaining warriors on any other multikit to make both parts. So, you can make 5 lychguard and 5 praets with the multibox and 5 warrior parts. Or 5 immortals and 5 deathmarks with the kit and 5 warriors. The battleforce box is more than worth it in that respect. I'm not even going to put the warriors together, they're going to be fodder for 4 multikits.