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I'm excited about the conversion potential in the battle force. Even though I have 24 warriors, I'll be buying at least 1 battle force and using warrior torso and legs to make more immortals and deathmarks. (If I like how the test models go.)

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This set contains 20 Necron Warriors; 5 Immortals (which can alternatively be built as 5 Deathmarks); 5 Canoptek Scarab Swarms, and a Ghost Ark (which can alternatively be built as a Doomsday Ark if you want a little extra firepower). These miniature are supplied unpainted and require assembly - we recommend using Citadel Plastic Glue and Citadel Paints.
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Part Code: 99120110018

That's a pretty nice set actually. Pity I already have 36 warriors though. 56 will be overdoing it.

LoL I have like 70+ warriors. I'm getting the box though because the warrior bits can be used to make the deathmarks as well with a bit of cutting (not much at all, two snips and that's it) and you can use the remaining warriors on any other multikit to make both parts. So, you can make 5 lychguard and 5 praets with the multibox and 5 warrior parts. Or 5 immortals and 5 deathmarks with the kit and 5 warriors. The battleforce box is more than worth it in that respect. I'm not even going to put the warriors together, they're going to be fodder for 4 multikits.

That's a good idea! Do the immortal torso fit on warrior legs?
If so then the battleforce effectively gives you

1 ghost ark
5 deathmarks
5 immortals with tesla
5 immortals with gauss
10 warriors

don't forget the scarabs! I gotta try that... diddling GW.
@Kanluwen. I get where you are coming from now, I didn't before.

Anpu-adom wrote:I'm excited about the conversion potential in the battle force. Even though I have 24 warriors, I'll be buying at least 1 battle force and using warrior torso and legs to make more immortals and deathmarks. (If I like how the test models go.)

Just a heads up, all you have to do is snip off the tab on the front torso of the warrior and make sure that part is flat. Then, I think it's the left arm, you just snip off the part right at the wrist so it is flat. Then just line it all up and glue it. The torso part is not an EXACT fit, the socket for the arms are not the same size, so be cautious when gluing that part on that you have an even match up on both sides. You honestly won't be able to tell once it's all together unless you're looking really closely. Also, the heads won't fit exactly right but if you angle the torso down just slightly then they'll be looking straight instead of up. Or just angle the heads to the side. It's really simple. Have fun!


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CthuluIsSpy wrote:

krazynadechukr wrote:http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440160a&rootCatGameStyle=


This set contains 20 Necron Warriors; 5 Immortals (which can alternatively be built as 5 Deathmarks); 5 Canoptek Scarab Swarms, and a Ghost Ark (which can alternatively be built as a Doomsday Ark if you want a little extra firepower). These miniature are supplied unpainted and require assembly - we recommend using Citadel Plastic Glue and Citadel Paints.
Availability: This product is available for Advance Order. Release Date Information.



Part Code: 99120110018

That's a pretty nice set actually. Pity I already have 36 warriors though. 56 will be overdoing it.

LoL I have like 70+ warriors. I'm getting the box though because the warrior bits can be used to make the deathmarks as well with a bit of cutting (not much at all, two snips and that's it) and you can use the remaining warriors on any other multikit to make both parts. So, you can make 5 lychguard and 5 praets with the multibox and 5 warrior parts. Or 5 immortals and 5 deathmarks with the kit and 5 warriors. The battleforce box is more than worth it in that respect. I'm not even going to put the warriors together, they're going to be fodder for 4 multikits.

That's a good idea! Do the immortal torso fit on warrior legs?
If so then the battleforce effectively gives you

1 ghost ark
5 deathmarks
5 immortals with tesla
5 immortals with gauss
10 warriors

You can not make 10 immortals with the battleforce box because the rear torsos are different from immortals and warriors. ONLY five immortals and five DM's using warrior parts.

Kevin949 wrote:

Anpu-adom wrote:I'm excited about the conversion potential in the battle force. Even though I have 24 warriors, I'll be buying at least 1 battle force and using warrior torso and legs to make more immortals and deathmarks. (If I like how the test models go.)

Just a heads up, all you have to do is snip off the tab on the front torso of the warrior and make sure that part is flat. Then, I think it's the left arm, you just snip off the part right at the wrist so it is flat. Then just line it all up and glue it. The torso part is not an EXACT fit, the socket for the arms are not the same size, so be cautious when gluing that part on that you have an even match up on both sides. You honestly won't be able to tell once it's all together unless you're looking really closely. Also, the heads won't fit exactly right but if you angle the torso down just slightly then they'll be looking straight instead of up. Or just angle the heads to the side. It's really simple. Have fun!


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CthuluIsSpy wrote:

krazynadechukr wrote:http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440160a&rootCatGameStyle=


This set contains 20 Necron Warriors; 5 Immortals (which can alternatively be built as 5 Deathmarks); 5 Canoptek Scarab Swarms, and a Ghost Ark (which can alternatively be built as a Doomsday Ark if you want a little extra firepower). These miniature are supplied unpainted and require assembly - we recommend using Citadel Plastic Glue and Citadel Paints.
Availability: This product is available for Advance Order. Release Date Information.



Part Code: 99120110018

That's a pretty nice set actually. Pity I already have 36 warriors though. 56 will be overdoing it.

LoL I have like 70+ warriors. I'm getting the box though because the warrior bits can be used to make the deathmarks as well with a bit of cutting (not much at all, two snips and that's it) and you can use the remaining warriors on any other multikit to make both parts. So, you can make 5 lychguard and 5 praets with the multibox and 5 warrior parts. Or 5 immortals and 5 deathmarks with the kit and 5 warriors. The battleforce box is more than worth it in that respect. I'm not even going to put the warriors together, they're going to be fodder for 4 multikits.

That's a good idea! Do the immortal torso fit on warrior legs?
If so then the battleforce effectively gives you

1 ghost ark
5 deathmarks
5 immortals with tesla
5 immortals with gauss
10 warriors

You can not make 10 immortals with the battleforce box because the rear torsos are different from immortals and warriors. ONLY five immortals and five DM's using warrior parts.

Ah damn. Oh well, still a good deal.

the blurb& pictures on GW's website mentions that the battleforce comes with the parts to make EITHER Ark.

Deathklaat wrote:the blurb& pictures on GW's website mentions that the battleforce comes with the parts to make EITHER Ark.

That's because both arks are the same kit.

yes you can use warrior legs and front torso's with the arms and backs from the immortals/deathmarks but imho it looks a bit silly unless you slap some greenstuff on the torso's.. the size difference is really noticeable and you really need to smooth that out

in honesty my FLGS can't complain about size difference. Everybody proxies at some point. I play a weetabix box cut-out scythe spam, there is a guy who proxies any odd soldier as lootas, a six dreadnought DS blood angel player (all blood talons) and a guy who uses terrmagants as SW wolves.

Yes, but making the models out of warrior parts isn't really proxying because they ARE the correct models and they ARE built out of models for the army and they're equipped properly. There's really nothing "proxy" about it.

If I could find the pictures i posted of my converted lychguard I'd put them up here. They don't look as bad as robbietobbie says. At least not to me. Not green stuff necessary bad, at least.

Kevin949 wrote:Yes, but making the models out of warrior parts isn't really proxying because they ARE the correct models and they ARE built out of models for the army and they're equipped properly. There's really nothing "proxy" about it.

If I could find the pictures i posted of my converted lychguard I'd put them up here. They don't look as bad as robbietobbie says. At least not to me. Not green stuff necessary bad, at least.

Not saying its a proxie. what I'm saying is that they can't complain because of the proxies others use

IHateNids wrote:

Kevin949 wrote:Yes, but making the models out of warrior parts isn't really proxying because they ARE the correct models and they ARE built out of models for the army and they're equipped properly. There's really nothing "proxy" about it.

If I could find the pictures i posted of my converted lychguard I'd put them up here. They don't look as bad as robbietobbie says. At least not to me. Not green stuff necessary bad, at least.

Not saying its a proxie. what I'm saying is that they can't complain because of the proxies others use

Ah, gotcha.

Ok.
I've got to try this with a Battleforce Kit. I've got some Triarch Praetorians, Immortals and Deathmarks just missing some front torsos and legs. If this works outwell, my Battleforce will be:

1 Doomsday Ark, 5 Canoptek Scarabs, 5 Deathmarks (from the kit) and 5 Triarch Praetorians, 10 Immortals and 5 Warriors (from the kit & bitz)

EPIC WIN for my £58.50

I actually saw a local make Wraiths out of the extra Praetorian bits and..I dunno, a few other misc. bits, and Tomb Blades out of Dark Elder Reavers and the 'passengers' of the Ghost Ark. They didn't look perfect, but it was still impressive.

Do you have any pics of these wraiths & Tomb Blades?

IHateNids wrote:Do you have any pics of these wraiths & Tomb Blades?

I do not, but if he shows up to the next tournament I'll ask him if I can post a few.

thanks alot

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

That's a good idea! Do the immortal torso fit on warrior legs?
If so then the battleforce effectively gives you

Yes. Used 2 immortal boxes + 20 of my warriors to make 10 Tesla Immortals, 10 Gauss Immortals and 10 Deathmarks

Looking for some advice here...
I'm getting an Immortal box this week, and looking at a Battleforce a little bit later.
Those of you who've done the conversions... would you make Immortals or Deathmarks first?

I decided to make my Deathmarks simply using warrior torsos and legs, skipping the whole hassle with trying to fit deathmark back to warrior torso.
I'll use some spare parts from Praetorians to make kind of "stealth camo" on their shoulders - rest is simply deathmark head (which is distinctive by itself) and synaptic desintegrator.

Make Immortals from the kit properly - just for the badass look they have Where Deathmark bodies can be substituted by smaller frame of warrior chassis, Immortals should stay "bulky"

yeah. Small and Stealthy fits with the fluff. for once

It would be nice if they were Rhino priced, but I'm braced for them to be Wave Serpent priced... I was hoping to grab four of them, but if they're WS priced, I might try my hand at converting once I see the what the final product looks like.

Aye, convert them fron CCB kits, which gives you overlords as well

So for $170 I'd receive:

$165 worth of boxed minis + 8 extra warriors and 2 scarab swarms.

Useful if you need to buy more warriors for conversions, not useful otherwise.

I'd probably make 5 deathmarks 10 immortals (plasticard mods on warriors with immortal weapons, may or may not use the immortal bodies considering I could still convert regular warriors if flayed ones are good 6e. Counts-as carbines or blasters. At least it beats the old warrior to flayed ones + immortals conversions) ghost ark 5 swarms and 10 warriors as suggested.

As a new player looking to start with Necrons (was just waiting until the 2nd wave was released), if I'm going to run what I'm thinking about running, it looks like I'm going to need:
2x Battleforce box set
3x Barge boxs
3x Wraith/Spyder box sets (provided the rumors pan out about the whole multi-kit 3 in a box thing)
...
*does some quick calculations*
...
JESUS CHRIST, I don't have that kind of money!
WTF was I thinking?!

I still have an old fashioned battleforce I never finished painting.. plus 1 box of warriors got me up to 40 of em.. and that's all I have so far besides 1 lord. Wondering now if I should go for the new battleforce too? Or just grab a couple boxes of immortals & barges.

That depends on what you want, 40 warriors should be enough for most games. You could use the warriors from the battleforce to make some extra immortals or deathmarks with the leftover bits from the immortals/deathmarks set to save you some money but it really depends on if you want to (they don't look bad with a little effort put into them but they're not as good as the actual immortals and deathmarks, The legs are too thin for the larger torso's and the front torso's dont fit perfectly to the immortals/deathmarks back torso's)

Anpu-adom wrote:Looking for some advice here...
I'm getting an Immortal box this week, and looking at a Battleforce a little bit later.
Those of you who've done the conversions... would you make Immortals or Deathmarks first?

I'd make immortals first, to be honest. Unless you already have a unit of 10 of the old metal ones. Even then though, I'd still probably make tesla immortals over deathmarks.

So, the pricing on the TWC has me a little concerned that the Wraith box will be significantly more expensive than we were thinking. Ghost Ark prices rather than rhino prices.

Anpu-adom wrote:So, the pricing on the TWC has me a little concerned that the Wraith box will be significantly more expensive than we were thinking. Ghost Ark prices rather than rhino prices.

There are official Thunderwolf Cavalry models now?