Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

So, i recall a similar pledge a few years back, but never got news as to outcomes.

The idea here is to get most players who collect Adepta Sororitas armies to purchase a single model in order to show our support for GW, and entice them to update their Battle Sisters range.
The plan is very simple, and will simply work on the spread in Social media and gaming groups.

On the 4th of March 2015, i would kindly ask that you purchase THIS MODEL.
You may select an alternative, such as THIS or THIS.

The most important thing is to try and do this as close as you can to a selected time:
8am PST
10am CST
11am EST for the US

4pm GMT in the UK

5pm CET for most of Europe

Or the equivalent time in your time zone.

If you own an Adepta Sororitas army, that model will surely find a home and be useful. Even fully equipped collectors of AS could make use of this 1 model, and would show support for the cause. I know you might be happy with the amount of models you have, but this is a message that you want more attention given to your Faction.

The next step is simply to spread this message as far and wide as you can, and make the purchase on the stated date.
As a bonus, you may also send the following email, or an amended version of your own, to the following address: custserv@gwplc.com or uk.custserv@gwplc.com in conjunction with your order.



I do really want to emphasise on the fact that this petition will probably create some chaos for GW, but hopefully the spread of the campaign will provide them with warning, as i do not this to be a 'surprise', rather a evaluation of how many would support this cause.

Please spread the word, including translations and adaptations where necessary.

The model with the Storm Bolter isn't from 1997.

(/pedantry)

I'm not sure you can buy stuff as a protest. It'll just show that you'll still buy it.

More effective would be to send them a receipt for £400 worth of bolt action, explaining that it was money earmarked for sisters butyou got bored waiting and your sisters are now on ebay.

So you are protesting a lack of new models by buying the old models? And GW is supposed to take notice of what exactly? The fact that you are still giving them money even though you don't agree with their policies?

#bringbackourgirls

I wonder if the same will work on the Eldar jetbike? That kit is old enough to legally drink in the USA

Herzlos wrote:
I'm not sure you can buy stuff as a protest. It'll just show that you'll still buy it.

More effective would be to send them a receipt for £400 worth of bolt action, explaining that it was money earmarked for sisters butyou got bored waiting and your sisters are now on ebay.

PhantomViper wrote:
So you are protesting a lack of new models by buying the old models? And GW is supposed to take notice of what exactly? The fact that you are still giving them money even though you don't agree with their policies?

They're a hard-driving company. A peak in sales will be much more of a red flag than a simple complaint email... even if we all do it.
Plus, it's a benefit of having the model too.

PhantomViper wrote:
#bringbackourgirls

Spread the word!

Worked really well for that Dredd sequel...

What? They didn't make a Dredd sequel?

Oh.

Although I like the idea, I'm very very doubtful if enough people will actually join in on this...

It's a single model less than $10, and you have a month and a half to save for it. Hardly a huge imposition on anyone. Please, even if you personally don't want the model, join the appeal anyway for the sake of the people who want a new range!

You know what- I'm going to do this. I have less than zero need for any of those figures.

The majority of people, in any aspect of human endeavor, sit around, gripe, and say "no" while offering no real useful alternatives or action other than negativity.

The OP at least is trying something.

If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But something was tried.

Thank you!

I'd prefer some inquisition box sets.

 Dr Mathias wrote:
You know what- I'm going to do this. I have less than zero need for any of those figures.

The majority of people, in any aspect of human endeavor, sit around, gripe, and say "no" while offering no real useful alternatives or action other than negativity.

The OP at least is trying something.

If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But something was tried.

Yeah, thanks!

I know i'll barely skip 1 drink an evening or two to "save up" for this. For each of us this is pocket change, but at barely 20+ people, i am certain GW will be aware of interest. I just hope it does not cause them too much trouble...

 Furyou Miko wrote:
It's a single model less than $10, and you have a month and a half to save for it. Hardly a huge imposition on anyone. Please, even if you personally don't want the model, join the appeal anyway for the sake of the people who want a new range!

I'm just put off by the shipping adding on another 75% to the price... Having said that, I just posted this link to the page of my FLGS, and if I can find someone to split shipping costs with I'm in.

If you get it delivered to a nearby GW store it's free delivery.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
If you get it delivered to a nearby GW store it's free delivery.

Unless you don't have one of those

I'd do it, but I can't do anything purchase or hobby related on Wednesday. I'll do it on the weekend.

It would cost me 30 USD to get that one model. Even if I got it shipped to GW Wellington (the train tickets would cost the same as their shipping).

I wont be doing this, I mean if thats what they want to charge for one model, then I dont trust them to make a decent job on any new models anyway.

Good luck for those in a better location anyway.

 Dr Mathias wrote:
You know what- I'm going to do this. I have less than zero need for any of those figures.

The majority of people, in any aspect of human endeavor, sit around, gripe, and say "no" while offering no real useful alternatives or action other than negativity.

The OP at least is trying something.

If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But something was tried.

Except the best alternative, an actual boycott of sales, has been mentioned, which is the same as sitting around saying "no" except when done en masse forces GW to take action. Unfortunately, too few people are actually willing to boycott GW to change anything, otherwise we'd likely have sisters already announced and prices might even be lower.

i bought a sister model years ago. Painted it up in green armor and gave it red hair (to match my ex wife's hair and favorite color. It was "much appreciated and wellll put me on her good side for a good while )

Organizing a boycott would be a worthwhile action, but would require people standing outside game stores with placards, an aggressive Internet campaign, and a hell of a lot of people on board.

When people complain "too much" about GW doing this and that I usually tell them to vote with their wallets, which is what I do.

No offense intended, but to give them money as an act of complaint must be one of the most stupid things I've ever read.

If I were a GW executive I would be rolling around the floor while laughing histerically after reading this thread.

As a Sisters player, I can respect what you're trying to do. But TBH, I want different things than you. I don't want plastics, I want them to bring back all the metal options they took from us. I don't want a new codex, I want a dataslate that gives us new formations and a LOW. I don't want an army that anyone can replicate with a one-click bundle, I want Sistersto be a little special.

In short, give me a little more variety, then go back to leaving me alone

PhantomViper wrote:
So you are protesting a lack of new models by buying the old models? And GW is supposed to take notice of what exactly? The fact that you are still giving them money even though you don't agree with their policies?

This would demonstrate that there is still interest in the SoB, presumably.

Though, sorry to be negative, but I doubt it'll achieve much. They (should) already know there's interest in the Sisters from all of those digital codex sales. My personal feeling is that GW has decided (one way or the other) on what they're going to do with the Sisters anyway.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 the_Armyman wrote:
I want them to bring back all the metal options they took from us. I don't want a new codex, I want a dataslate that gives us new formations and a LOW. I don't want an army that anyone can replicate with a one-click bundle, I want Sistersto be a little special.

As special as that may sound, that wouldn't exactly sell them too well to the wider hobby. Can't put dataslates and metal models into a store.

I like this idea. I'm in, hope it works!!

 the_Armyman wrote:
As a Sisters player, I can respect what you're trying to do. But TBH, I want different things than you. I don't want plastics, I want them to bring back all the metal options they took from us. I don't want a new codex, I want a dataslate that gives us new formations and a LOW. I don't want an army that anyone can replicate with a one-click bundle, I want Sistersto be a little special.

In short, give me a little more variety, then go back to leaving me alone

Sorry to rain on your parade but financially metal isn't practical anymore. Plus it's not a great material for models. It doesn't like holding paint, it falls apart easilly and it makes some models basically impossible (Penitent Engine, old school Dreadnoughts, Thunderfire Cannon). Plastic is the best thing for the army. Not only that it brings the cost down and makes us more available to newer players, meaning more frequent updates and new kits.

It's nice to sit there and go "I want to be special" but frankly you're cutting your asking for the army to be shot in the knees right before an Olympic race, it just ain't going to go too well.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 the_Armyman wrote:
As a Sisters player, I can respect what you're trying to do. But TBH, I want different things than you. I don't want plastics, I want them to bring back all the metal options they took from us. I don't want a new codex, I want a dataslate that gives us new formations and a LOW. I don't want an army that anyone can replicate with a one-click bundle, I want Sistersto be a little special.

In short, give me a little more variety, then go back to leaving me alone

Sorry to rain on your parade but financially metal isn't practical anymore. Plus it's not a great material for models. It doesn't like holding paint, it falls apart easilly and it makes some models basically impossible (Penitent Engine, old school Dreadnoughts, Thunderfire Cannon). Plastic is the best thing for the army. Not only that it brings the cost down and makes us more available to newer players, meaning more frequent updates and new kits.

I disagree with almost all of your assertions. I have hundreds of metal models. None of them are shabby, nicked-up, crumbling heaps. I'm also sorry that GW finds itself in a position where metal is no longer financially viable. I value metal minis and work with their limitations. I like plastic, and work within its limitations. I care not for making the army "more available to new players." If metal is scary, may I suggest Space Marines?

It's nice to sit there and go "I want to be special" but frankly you're cutting your asking for the army to be shot in the knees right before an Olympic race, it just ain't going to go too well.

What's the harm in the status quo? I asked for a few improvements I'd like to see be made, but I do not have confidence in GW's rules-writing team that I would welcome a new codex at this time. Rather than risk a complete hatchet-job, let sleeping dogs lie.

A lot of companies are finding metal to be financially unviable these days, not just GW.

And you're being an elitist. It's that attitude of "feth everyone else, I got mine" that doesn't actually help the army. You want cheaper models? You're getting plastic. You don't like plastic? Then you have eBay for all the old stuff that will still be for sale when the plastic drops.

Status quo is why our basic troop choice costs $90 USD for 10 models. You don't want status quo though, you want models to be cheaper. You aren't getting that if they stay in metal.

And we're just going to see more hatchet jobs as we continue to lose models. We already lost the Seraphim Superior and Kyrinov (who is completely out of the codex now). How many more do you think we'll lose if we don't get an update with new models?

We're running out of models and trying to jealously guard them from anyone who won't drop $200+ dollars for an HQ and 2 Troop choices is childish. You're not being realistic and you're demanding the unreasonable.

If you can get maybe 1000+ people globally to do it you might make some noise. Any less than that and I don't even think it would be a blip on their radar. The only way it might be noticed with less people than that is someone in the warehouse noticing they're run out of melta sisters in multiple warehouses.

GW sell roughly $450,000 USD of product per day on average, once you consider a decent portion of that goes to independents it translates to about $550,000 of stock at retail price, supposedly about half of that is 40k, so $275,000. If you get 100 people to buy a $17 model, it's only going to be $1700 of models... they're not even going to notice that, a single new player could rack up that much revenue in a day. If you get 1000 people to do it they might notice that revenue was up by 6% on one particular day.

I'd start getting people to actually go to game stores and clubs and spread the word and get your numbers up in to the thousands.

That said... I won't be doing it, so best of luck to you.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
You're not being realistic and you're demanding the unreasonable.

I don't think it's terribly unreasonable to expect things to remain the same with a couple of small updates. It might be unrealistic because it's not the way GW work, but I don't think it's unreasonable. Metal (or resin) is the perfect material for just adding a few poses and keeping a range going instead of converting to plastic. It's reasonably cheap to do small runs.

Saying the models should never be updated and old ones returned despite it being phased out due to cost is unrealistic.

Plus it means keeping models in metal that would do a LOT better in plastic (Exorcist and Penitent Engine).

The army needs an update. The models are old, the technology today has shown that they could be a LOT better and in a material that'd work better with players both new and old. Plus if we're arguing nostalgia as a reason to keep the old ones, well, frankly we're being unreasonable.