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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/03 11:38:09
Subject: what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Mindless Spore Mine
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Ok i have never played infinity before and some of my friends want to start playing. I think the only thing holding us back is not being imersed in the lore of infinity like 40k. Some thing about it i just cant get into. So i was thinking of using 40k figures as standins for infinity units. I sort of have a campaighn theme set between groups of space marines and tyranids.
So not taking in factions or races and only using oficial infinity rules. What units would be good to use?
For tyranids i was thinking termagaunts, genestealers, warriors and lyctors. For SM, assault marines, tactical, devestators, maybe a drednought.
What would the equvilants be in infinity do you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/03 13:07:55
Subject: what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Maybe CA for Nids, and for SM I'd suggest Yu Jing, because of their heavy infantry theme.
May I ask though, what's your issue with the official background for infinity?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/03 13:14:50
Subject: Re:what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Mindless Spore Mine
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Well i suppose 40k lore can be daunting aswell ,even more so maybe but there is the black library to get more of the fluff. I dont know are there any infinity novels? As i said were just starting out and it felt better to have a setting that every body knew to begin with. Besides that there is no other reason.
And not every one has infinity models but i can supply with all of the GW miniatures easely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/03 13:26:29
Subject: what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Charging Dragon Prince
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Unfortunately the background is tied to the books and Dire Foes missions. The old site did have some background next to unit's entry:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/facciones/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/03 17:50:13
Subject: Re:what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Dakka Veteran
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You can pick up 5 man team on fleabay cheap enough and just start playing. How using 40k figures is going to get you into the game I will never know ?
Forget 40k and just get into the game. Just check out the artwork to get the feel. What you don't want is 40k figures on a 40k looking board attempting to play Infinity
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/03 18:54:30
Subject: Re:what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Well.. I have friends that got into Infinity by first playing with 40k minis, just because it was the only thing to hand, and also they wanted to try out the game mechanics.
So it's a perfectly valid request I feel. Of course, they then loved the mechanics, take a look at how good the minis are, and so....
For all of these probably the best way of getting stats is looking up the online Army Builder - select the units you want by the names below, then 'print' and you'll get all of the unit and weapon stats associated with them. http://www.infinitythegame.com/army/army4.php
As ImAGeek suggest, Yu Jing would be a good choice for marines. Look up profiles for 'Zuyong Invincibles' or 'Wu Ming'
(this dude in Infinity, power armoured bad-ass who is pretty powerful)
A dreadnought could be used as the Infinity equivalent (robot walkers called TAGs), Yu Jing have one called the Guijia.
Tiger Soldiers might work well as assault troopers, you can drop into enemy troopers with them.
Finally, Guilang Skirmishers might work well as Scouts.
Tyranids is a bit tougher. Probably the closes faction is Combined Army, as a suggestion:
Termagents - use 'The Hungries', there are two types of this: 'Gakis' for a close assault version, 'Preta' for ones that having a spitting, template weapon. To use these, you can get an 'Oznat Hunter' who in Infinity controls the beast with a special device. This sounds a lot like a Tyranid synapse creature to me - perhaps use a Tyranid warrior or similar to represent this?
Lictor - you want something that can hide itself. Think a 'Speculo Killer' should cover this pretty well. It's probably a bit weaker comparatively than a Lictor would be in 40k, but in Infinity has an 'impersonation' ability which allows it to approach closely to enemy troops, and then jump out of 'camoflauge' to assault an enemy. Pretty nasty in the rules actually, I hate facing these!
Warriors - perhaps a Combined Army heavy infantry? Perhaps a 'Suryat' or 'Sogarat' (depending on how tough you want them to be)
If you wanted to, you could go mental and have an air-dropped Carnifex, use the rules for a 'Caskuda'
Hope that helps!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/04 04:05:12
Subject: Re:what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Norn Queen
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Pacific wrote:Termagents - use 'The Hungries', there are two types of this: 'Gakis' for a close assault version, 'Preta' for ones that having a spitting, template weapon. To use these, you can get an 'Oznat Hunter' who in Infinity controls the beast with a special device. This sounds a lot like a Tyranid synapse creature to me - perhaps use a Tyranid warrior or similar to represent this?
Lictor - you want something that can hide itself. Think a 'Speculo Killer' should cover this pretty well. It's probably a bit weaker comparatively than a Lictor would be in 40k, but in Infinity has an 'impersonation' ability which allows it to approach closely to enemy troops, and then jump out of 'camoflauge' to assault an enemy. Pretty nasty in the rules actually, I hate facing these!
Warriors - perhaps a Combined Army heavy infantry? Perhaps a 'Suryat' or 'Sogarat' (depending on how tough you want them to be)
If you wanted to, you could go mental and have an air-dropped Carnifex, use the rules for a 'Caskuda'
Hope that helps!
For Gaunts I'd actually suggest something like Seed Soldiers. You're going to want cheap line infantry to fuel your bigger guys with orders. They're not very good, but that suits Gaunts to a T.
For the Lictor, use the Anathematic. Use the Spitfire variant to give you a mid-range burst 4 weapon, similar to how Flesh Hooks now work.
Right on with the Suryat for a Warrior, Sorgorat for a Warrior Prime. Suryats aren't quite as tough, and can form a link cheaper, which fits Warriors, while Sogorats are tougher, which suits Primes.
For the Carnifex, these days I'd suggest the Raicho profile. With a heavy flamer and HMG, a Devourer and Venom Cannon Carnifex would fit right in. Especially since the Caskuda doesn't exist anymore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/04 05:02:45
Subject: what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Anybody think using Military Order as a Space Marine stand in has some merit? It's not a particularly easy list to play, but it has some cheap infantry (Fusileers) that could be Scouts or IG allies and some beefy heavy infantry with ok close combat ability. Just asking because that was the army I thought about using to introduce a SM player into Infinity (he ended up liking Aradnia, so you can never tell)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/04 06:26:38
Subject: what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Myrmidon Officer
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If you like/have Space Marines and Tyranids, look into the fluff for Yu Jing and Combined Army.
Yu Jing has a slightly darker and more totalitarian style than the other human factions and they really like their Heavy Infantry in power armor. You could use Space Marines as some of the HI with Imperial Guardsman as the other models. Thematically, they have some of the more brutal units like suicide bombers, minimally-trained conscripts, and illegal-yet-efficient weapons like monofilament and EMP weapons.
Combined Army are the more alien-looking aliens with a Tyranid-like invading theme with a slightly Tau-like join-us-or-die attitude. They're not entirely malevolent, but they probably don't have humanity's best interests in mind. Check out their models and you may end up liking them. Try looking at the new Combined Army starter pack, the Anathematic, the Unidron Batroids, and the Hungries/Pretas.
Proxies are fine for the most part, but with weapons loadouts and unit profiles being so different amongst your units, it'll get very confusing very quickly. It's not like 40k where you have a bunch of dudes where one is a missile launcher. You're probably going to have multiple different unit profiles with subtle differences like some having WIP (leadership) higher than others or some having a rifle+grenadelauncher while his comrade has a rifle+landmines.
Part of the appeal and theme of Infinity is that the universe is at the brink of total war, but not quite there yet. Much of the engagements are fought as skirmishes and proxy wars just testing the limits of diplomatic relations. There are no tanks, airstrikes, or other mass-destruction weaponry. Many engagements are fought in civilian areas where collateral damage and crossfire is a concern. Meanwhile the civilian population live their daily lives in ignorance or detached concern at the events they barely know are happening. It's a "clean" scifi setting as opposed to 40k's grimdark setting; it's not for everyone. YMMV.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/04 07:07:50
Subject: what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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I know I went for PanO's knights because they looked familiar coming out of Warhammer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/04 15:09:07
Subject: Re:what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Mindless Spore Mine
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Hey, thanks all. I was having dificulty with the combined army part but that setles it for now. I dont think i need any more minis. as this is just a starter game with no investment into any infinity models i want to keep it small. Then every one can decide if they want to invest more time and money into it.
Thanks again for the imput
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/04 17:48:38
Subject: what 40k units would be in infinity?
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1st Lieutenant
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While waiting on our copy of operation icestorm my fiancée used sisters of battle as proxies for the Nomads side. She used as a sister hospitaler as the reverend healer, an eversor assassin as the spektr, vindicare assassin as the Grenzr, bolter sisters as combi rifle Alguacile, a grey knight termie as the mobile brigade.
Much of the IG line would work well for anything Ariadna. Tau would work well as nomads or even PanOceania. Obviously crisis suits as TAGs.
The thing with Infinity is that even a line grunt over there is probably not JUST armed with that rifle, he may have other equipment like a hacking device, or he's a paramedic. As such, I'd find a way to clearly mark who has what if you're proxying and write it down next to their profiles.
I very much prefer Infinity over 40k even if I do love my tanks lol. The biggest changes to be prepared for are the ARO where your opponent does more than just sit there and die in your turn, and lots of terrain. I've always preferred 40k with a lot of terrain even with tanks because I think it feels more realistic. For the most part, warzones in places other than rural France and the middle of the desert are congested and cluttered and get more so when there's a military action. Soldiers put up barricades, drag objects into place to make quick and dirty cover, and tend to naturally, when possible, shun open areas.
40k is very much contrary to this and prefers open fields with a couple of buildings and a minimal amount of scatter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/04 17:51:54
Subject: what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Cosmic Joe
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I highly suggest getting into the lore of Infinity. It's actually quite fantastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/04 22:01:45
Subject: what 40k units would be in infinity?
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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MWHistorian wrote:I highly suggest getting into the lore of Infinity. It's actually quite fantastic.
Agreed. It's some of my favourite game lore. Relatively feasible, creative and shiny with gritty undertones.
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