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Quite a game, gents:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2356114-2-0-really-how-this-high-school-basketball-game-made-history?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

Good short term strategy, but miserable long term plan. This seems like a great way to alienate all of your fans and make sure no one comes to your other games.

Wonder if the coach who started it has some sort of agenda to push. Maybe he's actually of the belief that the shot clock rule needs to be changed and so had a point to prove.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Wonder if the coach who started it has some sort of agenda to push. Maybe he's actually of the belief that the shot clock rule needs to be changed and so had a point to prove.

Sorta sounds like it, doesn't it?

I agree with him, personally.

If one coach was punished for scoring too much, are these coaches going to be punished in a similar manner for scoring too little?

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
If one coach was punished for scoring too much, are these coaches going to be punished in a similar manner for scoring too little?

Coaches get punished for scoring too little all the time.


This almost reads like an Onion article. I do think find the quote "[i]t was just comical, and not basketball" quite amusing though. As if high school basketball has to always be serious business and is never funny.

I know what you mean. I checked this story in a few different places to make sure it wasn't a joke.

The sentence: "At this point, most of the 200 fans in attendance began yelling for the teams to play, some using the bluest of language, hurling their words like sharpened spears," is when it really started to approach Onion article status for me.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Wonder if the coach who started it has some sort of agenda to push. Maybe he's actually of the belief that the shot clock rule needs to be changed and so had a point to prove.

From the article in the OP, it wouldn't seem that way, as he is quoted as saying that he was trying to "rest" his players in their 4th game within a week...


Yeah, I'm sorry, but that's just players not doing the right things. Hydration is critical, and it would seem that they weren't doing that in between games. And if the coach really was worried about "rest" then he would have gone from a physical practice to a full practice in front of the chalk board, or in the video room with the team or something to get them mentally prepped (while hydrating)

Basketballs always been a cruddy game anyway, from a game design perspective the rules (even at the NBA level) are basically fundamentally broken, and it doesnt help that a lot of the rules in the game are usually unenforced (I dont remember the last time I saw an NBA player get called for traveling, even when they are very clearly traveling).

chaos0xomega wrote:
Basketballs always been a cruddy game anyway, from a game design perspective the rules (even at the NBA level) are basically fundamentally broken, and it doesnt help that a lot of the rules in the game are usually unenforced (I dont remember the last time I saw an NBA player get called for traveling, even when they are very clearly traveling).

That's because of what basketball truly is: A game designed by a rugby coach who wanted his rugby players to stay active during the off season.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Wonder if the coach who started it has some sort of agenda to push. Maybe he's actually of the belief that the shot clock rule needs to be changed and so had a point to prove.

From the article in the OP, it wouldn't seem that way, as he is quoted as saying that he was trying to "rest" his players in their 4th game within a week...


Yeah, I'm sorry, but that's just players not doing the right things. Hydration is critical, and it would seem that they weren't doing that in between games. And if the coach really was worried about "rest" then he would have gone from a physical practice to a full practice in front of the chalk board, or in the video room with the team or something to get them mentally prepped (while hydrating)

4 games in a week is a bit much for a high school team. I know in Ohio there's a limit on the number of games (20ish) and the number of total quarters. I don't know if it breaks it down so far as to how many games in a week.

I can't fathom having my wrestlers compete in 4 duals in one week. That's a heavy workload.

 cincydooley wrote:

I can't fathom having my wrestlers compete in 4 duals in one week. That's a heavy workload.

See, wrestling, Football (rugby and American) and the like, I understand... there's a very real mental and physical toll on the body. But basketball?? It's seriously just running/jogging with an occasional jump here and there. I remember the friends I had on the basketball team went out to an annual tournament, where they played 5 games over the course of 3 days (2 games, 2 games, 1 game), followed by their first league match 3 days after the tournament was done. NONE of them had any real issues. (anecdotal evidence, I know) I want to say that in Oregon, at least when I was in school the league season was around 20 games, plus there were some semi mandatory tournaments that schools were expected to attend (which, IIRC worked similar to UK soccer... theres a "top" tournament which if you place last in, you get relegated to the next tourney down, etc) and if your team was good enough, and had playoffs... you could expect to play around 40 games in total.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

I can't fathom having my wrestlers compete in 4 duals in one week. That's a heavy workload.

See, wrestling, Football (rugby and American) and the like, I understand... there's a very real mental and physical toll on the body. But basketball?? It's seriously just running/jogging with an occasional jump here and there. I remember the friends I had on the basketball team went out to an annual tournament, where they played 5 games over the course of 3 days (2 games, 2 games, 1 game), followed by their first league match 3 days after the tournament was done. NONE of them had any real issues. (anecdotal evidence, I know) I want to say that in Oregon, at least when I was in school the league season was around 20 games, plus there were some semi mandatory tournaments that schools were expected to attend (which, IIRC worked similar to UK soccer... theres a "top" tournament which if you place last in, you get relegated to the next tourney down, etc) and if your team was good enough, and had playoffs... you could expect to play around 40 games in total.

In the wrestling tournaments I was in, there would be multiple matches in a day.

Growin up my friends would play at least a game day, usually 2. 3 or 4 games wasnt unheard of during the summer when school was out either. Obviously 3v3 or 5v5 with friends on the playground or at the Y isnt the same as the high level competition of the NBA, but I mean... playing football or soccer or street hockey was fething exhausting, finishing even one game was a challenge, let alone playing daily.

Also interesting fact on the rugby connection, had no idea.

Guys, to me it's not entirely about the toll on the body. It's about the additional time commitment during a school week. I think 4 games in a week is pushing it, but that's just my opinion.

FWIW, in Ohio they use a 'points' system for wrestling, in that a dual/tri is worth 1 point, a quad/one day tournament is worth 2, and a 2-day tournament is worth 3. You're allotted 17-20 in year, depending on age level, with a 5 match maximum during the day for a tournament.

At max, a wrestler could have 65 matches, which would be predicated on a schedule consisting of 6 two-day tournaments and a single 1 day tournament. Most wrestlers don't get close to that.

 cincydooley wrote:
Guys, to me it's not entirely about the toll on the body. It's about the additional time commitment during a school week. I think 4 games in a week is pushing it, but that's just my opinion.

I agree with you on that point... However, the "coach" in the OP was quoted as saying that he was taking it "easy" that game due to his players cramping up in game 3.... Having a game limit makes sense from a scholastic point of view, but (IIRC) this school was in Alabama, and they are 49th in the country in education, the ONLY thing they got is sports, lol

 cincydooley wrote:
Guys, to me it's not entirely about the toll on the body. It's about the additional time commitment during a school week. I think 4 games in a week is pushing it, but that's just my opinion.

FWIW, in Ohio they use a 'points' system for wrestling, in that a dual/tri is worth 1 point, a quad/one day tournament is worth 2, and a 2-day tournament is worth 3. You're allotted 17-20 in year, depending on age level, with a 5 match maximum during the day for a tournament.

At max, a wrestler could have 65 matches, which would be predicated on a schedule consisting of 6 two-day tournaments and a single 1 day tournament. Most wrestlers don't get close to that.

Man, I miss doing wrestling, too bad Freshmen year i hurt my ankle so bad I couldnt. I dont know why I stopped.

Relapse wrote:

In the wrestling tournaments I was in, there would be multiple matches in a day.

Sometimes two sequential days at particularly large tournaments, and that's before mentioning multi-team meets. Four matches in a week is nothing.


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 cincydooley wrote:
Guys, to me it's not entirely about the toll on the body. It's about the additional time commitment during a school week. I think 4 games in a week is pushing it, but that's just my opinion.

Excluding travel time, which varies quite a bit, I doubt a basketball game lasts much longer than a basketball practice.

Hell, wrestling meets are primarily dead time. There are plenty of opportunities to read, or do homework; especially multi-team meets.

Four games in a week is really nothing much considering anyone who's ever been serious about basketball has played hours a day for days on end...people just like to exaggerate the difficulty of anything they do.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

Man, I miss doing wrestling, too bad Freshmen year i hurt my ankle so bad I couldnt. I dont know why I stopped.

As someone who is currently paying for playing after numerous injuries, you're probably better off in the long run.

 trexmeyer wrote:
.people just like to exaggerate the difficulty of anything they do.

Not always... however, I FINALLY get to use this:

 dogma wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

Man, I miss doing wrestling, too bad Freshmen year i hurt my ankle so bad I couldnt. I dont know why I stopped.

As someone who is currently paying for playing after numerous injuries, you're probably better off in the long run.

Oh wait, Now I remember, first day I sprained my ankle when it got caught in a pothole while runing.
Oh well, Im joining the muay thai club when they start up next quarter.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 trexmeyer wrote:
.people just like to exaggerate the difficulty of anything they do.

Not always... however, I FINALLY get to use this:

Point of order.


Your move, sir.

Peverly is very much alive.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Your move, sir.

ehh... Dying isn't so hardcore, getting your scrotum ripped open is


The point still is, and remains, and always will remain: this generation of basketball players are a bunch of sissy nancy boys. Damn near every female athlete out there is tougher than these guys.

Know whats more hardcore than having your scrotum cut open? Having your jugular cut open.




He wanted to go back in for the 3rd period but they hadnt finished putting in the 300 stitches needed to close him up.

 dogma wrote:
Peverly is very much alive.

He wasnt for about 2 minutes of that game.

chaos0xomega wrote:

He wasnt for about 2 minutes of that game.

Losing consciousness is not the same thing as dying.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Know whats more hardcore than having your scrotum cut open? Having your jugular cut open.

Lol... It's *ONLY* the jugular... for old Buck, it was the Family Jewels, the Huevos, etc...


Anyhow, I think we should all just bury the "who's sport is more macho" hatchet, and just agree that basketball sucks and our sports are better? (for the record, I AM a hockey fan as well as a rugby fan, I just happen to actually play rugby as well as watch it)

 dogma wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

He wasnt for about 2 minutes of that game.

Losing consciousness is not the same thing as dying.

His heart stopped. Like, full on stopped, no pulse.