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Well this is a show that premiered last night on TV each episode will be about a certain member during the situation leading up to, during and after, so far what I saw that kid deserved a good spanking and then some, and the parents should be shot for being such idiots in how they raised him. as to the slapping, lets face it, it was a slap and not a hard one and the kid kicked him first after almost hitting the guys kid with a baseball bat.

the child is spoiled and will only bear rotten fruit.

whats your thoughts on this controversial show?

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Read the first 5 words of sentence. Already disapointed.
   
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Slapping get your kid is a traumatic experience for a child, and anyone that does it should not be allowed to parent.
I thought we moved past this babarism.

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So thats what the show's about? PASS!!!

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Slapping get your kid is a traumatic experience for a child, and anyone that does it should not be allowed to parent.
I thought we moved past this babarism.


trust me if you watched the show you would have been tempted to slap the kid, hell his mother still breasts feed him

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At three? So whahaat. and, you never slap a kid, ever especially one that is not yours

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
At three? So whahaat. and, you never slap a kid, ever especially one that is not yours

Before passing judgement, have kids of your own.

Now... if it was a closed fist? BURN HIM!

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
At three? So whahaat. and, you never slap a kid, ever especially one that is not yours


don't think he was 3 if so a big 3 year old, especially one that was swinging a bat at his kid, kicking his leg, throwing records around and tearing up plants, while the parents were effectively not doing much.

I may have not slapped that kid but family or not would have told them to get the "bleep" out of my house


 whembly wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
At three? So whahaat. and, you never slap a kid, ever especially one that is not yours

Before passing judgement, have kids of your own.

Now... if it was a closed fist? BURN HIM!


it was an open hand slap and not very hard, seen much worse from girls.

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Still, you never strike a child. There are better ways to parent then force. Also, the book said he was 3. I guess you can't get a good 3 yr old actor.
And you would be damn sure if someone hit my kid, I would sue them from house and home

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Still, you never strike a child. There are better ways to parent then force. Also, the book said he was 3. I guess you can't get a good 3 yr old actor.
And you would be damn sure if someone hit my kid, I would sue them from house and home


Kid, have some kids of your own before you start telling others how to parent.

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Shh twas, the old, you can't comment because you never did it.
Boo, hitting your kids is wrong, especially on the head where it can cause damage. There is a reason cps exist
And hitting other peoples kids is wrong.

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Yeah... if someone attacks your kid with a bat I think you should be allowed to punt a baby.

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 djones520 wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Still, you never strike a child. There are better ways to parent then force. Also, the book said he was 3. I guess you can't get a good 3 yr old actor.
And you would be damn sure if someone hit my kid, I would sue them from house and home


Kid, have some kids of your own before you start telling others how to parent.


In his defense I'm in complete agreement with someone hitting my family.

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Shh twas, the old, you can't comment because you never did it.
Boo, hitting your kids is wrong, especially on the head where it can cause damage. There is a reason cps exist
And hitting other peoples kids is wrong.


There is a reason CPS exists. It's not for what people commonly confuse it for though.

I've had CPS called on my family twice. Both times it was found to be bogus claims, and the 2nd time it happened, said person who called us got in trouble for it.

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He's trolling in the most quality way. I wouldn't rise to it.

Also OP how about some details for this to be a viable topic.

I presume it's about punishing children through skelping/spanking/smacking?

On another note the people that go on to these kind of programs with their family problems are 100% scum.

   
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 Soladrin wrote:
Yeah... if someone attacks your kid with a bat I think you should be allowed to punt a baby.


Baby Ike says: "Don't Kick the Baby!"

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 Medium of Death wrote:


I presume it's about punishing children through skelping/spanking/smacking?

On another note the people that go on to these kind of programs with their family problems are 100% scum.


It is not reality TV. It is a DRAMA. It is a Series based off a Australian Series based off a book.

The long and the short of it is a bunch of people are at a picnic. There is a misbehaving child which is attacking other children with a baseball bat. A parent of another child sees his child at risk and steps in to protect his child. When he does, the attacker child begins to attack him where upon he SLAPS the kid.

The series is an individual episode for each person there and seeing the event (and the aftermath) through their eyes. So the kid being attacked gets a whole episode, the parents of the bad kid get an episode, the person doing the slap gets an episode. You get to see all the angles and points of view via a DRAMA series. Basically think Law and Order where you see one version via the opposing council, one from the defendant, one from the victims family and so on.



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 Frazzled wrote:
 djones520 wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Still, you never strike a child. There are better ways to parent then force. Also, the book said he was 3. I guess you can't get a good 3 yr old actor.
And you would be damn sure if someone hit my kid, I would sue them from house and home


Kid, have some kids of your own before you start telling others how to parent.


In his defense I'm in complete agreement with someone hitting my family.

"A man was eaten alive today but what can only be described as a herd of wiener dogs led by a gorilla dressed in a Hawaiian shirt"


Oh totally, a man will learn what his fist tastes like if that were to happen. Granted, I raise my children in such a manner that no reasonable man would ever feel the need to step in as an authoritative figure. I was referring more towards the opening comments of his.

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nkelsch wrote:
 Medium of Death wrote:


I presume it's about punishing children through skelping/spanking/smacking?

On another note the people that go on to these kind of programs with their family problems are 100% scum.


It is not reality TV. It is a DRAMA. It is a Series based off a Australian Series based off a book.

The long and the short of it is a bunch of people are at a picnic. There is a misbehaving child which is attacking other children with a baseball bat. A parent of another child sees his child at risk and steps in to protect his child. When he does, the attacker child begins to attack him where upon he SLAPS the kid.

The series is an individual episode for each person there and seeing the event (and the aftermath) through their eyes. So the kid being attacked gets a whole episode, the parents of the bad kid get an episode, the person doing the slap gets an episode. You get to see all the angles and points of view via a DRAMA series. Basically think Law and Order where you see one version via the opposing council, one from the defendant, one from the victims family and so on.




That sounds awful.




This it?

   
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Agreed. Sounds awful.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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So it's scripted? It's actually a drama, and not even pretending to be reality?

Bottom line is, you don't hit kids. It doesn't teach them anything, it merely gives you an outlet for your own frustrations. I've got kids - they drive you nuts, but if you don't have control, what hope is there for them to learn it?

Besides, there are far more productive teaching methods, like changing the wifi password or removal of phone chargers. =P
   
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Delakar wrote:
So it's scripted? It's actually a drama, and not even pretending to be reality?

Bottom line is, you don't hit kids. It doesn't teach them anything, it merely gives you an outlet for your own frustrations. I've got kids - they drive you nuts, but if you don't have control, what hope is there for them to learn it?

Besides, there are far more productive teaching methods, like changing the wifi password or removal of phone chargers. =P


It was never pretending to be a reality TV show. It is not trying to teach anything. It is basically showing all the different sides of an issue from multiple points of views. I am sure if another kid smashed your child's head in with a baseball bat and gave him life-long brain damage that 'removing wifi access' would not console you one bit.

Poorly raised kid meets hot-head protective parent = everyone loses, hence the point of the show... No matter your personal beliefs you will like someone and hate someone else, and it will be different for every viewer.

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So it's a Rashomon effect style drama then yes ?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon_effect

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 reds8n wrote:
So it's a Rashomon effect style drama then yes ?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon_effect


Yep. The book has a single chapter per character, and the show has a single episode per character.

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The book touched on the problems of raising a kid in an multicultural and varied enviroments

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In the wise words of Charles Barkley, this show looks "turrible, just turrible."

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Asterios wrote:
Well this is a show that premiered last night on TV each episode will be about a certain member during the situation leading up to, during and after, so far what I saw that kid deserved a good spanking and then some, and the parents should be shot for being such idiots in how they raised him. as to the slapping, lets face it, it was a slap and not a hard one and the kid kicked him first after almost hitting the guys kid with a baseball bat.

the child is spoiled and will only bear rotten fruit.

whats your thoughts on this controversial show?


You didn't really do a good job presenting what the show was about. I had to watch the trailer. I'm going to be holding that against you for some time. The causing me to have to watch the trailer part.

I... I don't think anything I saw in that trailer reflected how I've seen human beings act in reality, which is not to say that all human beings DO act as if they are a part of reality, but still. Wow.

Do yourselves a favor: Turn it off and go DO something.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Shh twas, the old, you can't comment because you never did it.
Boo, hitting your kids is wrong, especially on the head where it can cause damage. There is a reason cps exist
And hitting other peoples kids is wrong.


problem is when even spanking your child for doing wrong, is breaking the law, I'm not advocating beating a child, but a firm hand must be taken when raising children, when you have 12 and 13 year olds killing people now a days, you have to wonder if a hands off approach is worth it, and yes several instances of 13 year olds killing people, and these kids were raised in a enlightenment way too (no spankings or slappings), and that's just in my town, things are getting ugly all over, and seriously taking away a kids wifi doesn't do anything, they just go to a friends or McDonalds or any place and get free wifi.

furthermore the slap depicted in the show, was only enough to leave a red mark, not cause any form of injury.

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Ehm...so...what is thet show's point? The trailer pretty much is the show in a nutshell...it raises a conflict and that's about it. To me, it looks like a "Look at me, I am edgy!" show with little plot.

...and don't say "You never hit a child!". It's just a wrong statement. There are situations where hitting a child is perfectly viable - and those situations are extremely scarce (fortunately...) at the same time. Like, if a kid is armed and about to inflict harm on others, then yes, physical force is absolutely fine in order to avoid any consequences.

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