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MrMoustaffa wrote: Could be guard or sisters, but we know through stories it's gotta be at least DG vs Tau, with GSC uprising against the Tau at the same time. In the GSC story recently, they were uprising against an Imperial world that had worked out a deal with the Tau empire.
So perhaps it's GSC/Tau/death guard /Imperial Guard. Imperial Guard and GSC would be smart to release in the same book since they share a lot of stuff.... Which makes me think the won't do it But it would be odd to see a pyschic awakening book with no Imperium in it. Other than the eldar one they've al had some sort of Imperium show up.
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The teaser for PA5 that went up on YouTube earlier has transmissions from the Imperium, Tau, and GSC, so it looks like Death Guard aren’t in it after all.
If death guard don't show up that feels like a big let down, they definitely got the biggest buildup out of these recent stories and I think had one of the better written ones in a while.
Spoiler:
they're hinted as going through the warpgate straight into the heart of the Tau empire, and had smashed aside shadowtsun's fleet to do so. I find it odd she'd be getting a model if the DG aren't in the book since that's her main fight at the moment. She's not fighting GSC or Imperial Guard, she's in a battle with a collosal death guard fleet just trying to survive
If anything was getting left out it'd be IG
'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
"Sector Imperialis: 25mm and 40mm Round Bases (40+20) 26€ (Including 32 skulls for basing) " GW design philosophy in a nutshell
I don't think the latest video is proof that DG won't be in the next PA. Although it would make some sense, the remaining PA board is currently littered with too many Imperials and too few enemies.
I'd rather DG feature in this PA, they're a perfect thematic fit.
BrianDavion wrote: keep in mind Imperial Guard have been involved in every warzone (saw PA1) thus far.
In theory. In practice, they've gotten no rules or real reference or relevance, so it doesn't matter.
I'm pretty sure that was his point.
that was exactly my point. just because someone's present in a battle zone doesn't mean they get rules. ESPECIALLY when it's guard. When Guard get a focus I expect it will be a battle where they are the focal point, likely no marines in sight. the thin green line.
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The faith bit and the scroll head covering and the head with bad teeth and a skull with a halo give me a kind of “ecclesiarchy/redemptionist” vibe, but it would be very strange to have ecclesiarchy rules in this PA.
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: The faith bit and the scroll head covering and the head with bad teeth and a skull with a halo give me a kind of “ecclesiarchy/redemptionist” vibe, but it would be very strange to have ecclesiarchy rules in this PA.
Remember the entire Imperium is very religious. Have Faith in the Emperor fits just as well with guardsmen.
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Ordana wrote: Have Faith in the Emperor fits just as well with guardsmen.
Nothing about the image says “Military forces” though. The text doesn't evoke military forces, the guy on the left doesn't wear a uniform or look like part of a disciplined force, the people in the background don't have uniforms and don't look like part of an organized, disciplined military force. How many Imperial Guard models have scrolls covering their heads?
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
So it's clearly Tau vs GSC vs another imperial faction... but wich one?
This is the only book where even after the teaser and the short stories (but i bet there'll be one more) we still have no idea of one the involved parties...
This PA hype is confusing. There's a great deal of push placed on the Tau/DG conflict initially, and then some story push placed on the Tau/GSC conflict. Now they've released two different story things adding in an imperial faction. Imperial factions have been involved in all the PA books (except the first one) so it's possible the greater Imperium is more of an NPC in this conflict.
Or we might be seeing a four-way conflict maybe? The hype for this particular book is a bit erratic.
That short story specifically mentions Adepta Sororitas present on the same planet as GSC & Tau. Could be that Sisters are the third faction getting new rules (alongside their next wave of models), while the WD Assassin rules are also reprinted here - hence the generic Imperial reference in yesterday's teaser.
Since this books doesn't need to reserve two dozen pages for shadowspear marines, they might fit assassins in there though.
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Dracarys wrote: This PA hype is confusing. There's a great deal of push placed on the Tau/DG conflict initially, and then some story push placed on the Tau/GSC conflict. Now they've released two different story things adding in an imperial faction. Imperial factions have been involved in all the PA books (except the first one) so it's possible the greater Imperium is more of an NPC in this conflict.
Or we might be seeing a four-way conflict maybe? The hype for this particular book is a bit erratic.
It's not as erratic as you might think. The PA stories have, in several instances, featured Guard--yet Guard had nothing to do with Phoenix Rising or Faith and Fury or Blood of Baal. The stories have not always featured an army that is present as part of their narrative.
I think people read too much into the stories. The authors probably have wide latitude for the broad strokes. I am still betting that Death Guard are in fact in this book, along with Tau and GSC.
Someone on another forum claimed the book will focus on Plague Marines and Blightlords. I really, really hope Blightlords can get a strat to bump to 3 wounds or improve FNP for a phase or something. Would also love an upgrade strat that makes plague surgeon useable for the first time ever.
Honestly, they need so much help just to be updated to modern mechanics and fix some design flaws. Reactive cloud of flies that works after deep striking again. Charge bonuses. A way to get +1 to hit without allying in other Chaos armies. Character upgrade strats. A way to make 4" move, 2-wound, Blightlord costing up to 50 points worthwhile. More reroll to hit auras. New rules that can surprise good opponents with canny play. Etc.
I'm placing heavy hopes on this supplement and I'm worried I will be hugely disapointed.
Virules wrote: I think people read too much into the stories. The authors probably have wide latitude for the broad strokes. I am still betting that Death Guard are in fact in this book, along with Tau and GSC.
Someone on another forum claimed the book will focus on Plague Marines and Blightlords. I really, really hope Blightlords can get a strat to bump to 3 wounds or improve FNP for a phase or something. Would also love an upgrade strat that makes plague surgeon useable for the first time ever.
Honestly, they need so much help just to be updated to modern mechanics and fix some design flaws. Reactive cloud of flies that works after deep striking again. Charge bonuses. A way to get +1 to hit without allying in other Chaos armies. Character upgrade strats. A way to make 4" move, 2-wound, Blightlord costing up to 50 points worthwhile. More reroll to hit auras. New rules that can surprise good opponents with canny play. Etc.
I'm placing heavy hopes on this supplement and I'm worried I will be hugely disapointed.
Possible. But if authors truly have freedom to go a bit off tangent with these (I don't think they do, they are the people writing Codex fluff, not BL authors who aren't GW staffers and thus more "distanced"), it could just as well be the Death Guard part was just an author sprinkling in Death Guard for no reason.
Virules wrote: I think people read too much into the stories. The authors probably have wide latitude for the broad strokes. I am still betting that Death Guard are in fact in this book, along with Tau and GSC.
Someone on another forum claimed the book will focus on Plague Marines and Blightlords. I really, really hope Blightlords can get a strat to bump to 3 wounds or improve FNP for a phase or something. Would also love an upgrade strat that makes plague surgeon useable for the first time ever.
Honestly, they need so much help just to be updated to modern mechanics and fix some design flaws. Reactive cloud of flies that works after deep striking again. Charge bonuses. A way to get +1 to hit without allying in other Chaos armies. Character upgrade strats. A way to make 4" move, 2-wound, Blightlord costing up to 50 points worthwhile. More reroll to hit auras. New rules that can surprise good opponents with canny play. Etc.
I'm placing heavy hopes on this supplement and I'm worried I will be hugely disapointed.
'People read too much into the stories' 'I think Death Guard will be in this book' is that not reading into the stories just as much, seeing as it was one of those that featured the DG?
Virules wrote: I think people read too much into the stories. The authors probably have wide latitude for the broad strokes. I am still betting that Death Guard are in fact in this book, along with Tau and GSC.
Someone on another forum claimed the book will focus on Plague Marines and Blightlords. I really, really hope Blightlords can get a strat to bump to 3 wounds or improve FNP for a phase or something. Would also love an upgrade strat that makes plague surgeon useable for the first time ever.
Honestly, they need so much help just to be updated to modern mechanics and fix some design flaws. Reactive cloud of flies that works after deep striking again. Charge bonuses. A way to get +1 to hit without allying in other Chaos armies. Character upgrade strats. A way to make 4" move, 2-wound, Blightlord costing up to 50 points worthwhile. More reroll to hit auras. New rules that can surprise good opponents with canny play. Etc.
I'm placing heavy hopes on this supplement and I'm worried I will be hugely disapointed.
Possible. But if authors truly have freedom to go a bit off tangent with these (I don't think they do, they are the people writing Codex fluff, not BL authors who aren't GW staffers and thus more "distanced"), it could just as well be the Death Guard part was just an author sprinkling in Death Guard for no reason.
That's a heck of a buildup to sprinkle an army in for no reason. I mean they're hyping it up like the death guard are going to curb stomp the entire Tau empire (which we know they won't, Tau being the closest thing to marines Xenos players get )
'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
"Sector Imperialis: 25mm and 40mm Round Bases (40+20) 26€ (Including 32 skulls for basing) " GW design philosophy in a nutshell
An imperial stalemate against the Tau with Tau and Genestealer infiltrators seems like the initial setting for the book, with the main events then being the arrival of Shadowsun and the 5th Sphere Fleet breaking the stalemate followed by the Plaguefleet turning up shortly after to derail everything.
I think the most interesting thing we've had so far is the mention of curved, high tech pysker-detectors of alien origin. I wonder if the Tau psychic defence here is an EWO style subsystem or signature system that lets you shoot them as they start gathering warp charge?
It's not beyond belief that Tau might see a similar 'refresh' to what Tyranids, Drukhari, and Aeldari saw.
I wouldn't be surprised to see:
-'Build Your Own Sept' rules
-Something akin to the Aspect Powers for Battlesuit units
-New Relics
-New Stratagems
-Updated Mont'ka and Kau'yon listings
We know we're getting Shadowsun's rules and her new drones are getting rules too.
With no marine faction taking up a million pages with unit entries there'd be enough space for 4 factions I reckon.
But where will they put all the name generators?
we know we're getting another book with 4 factions in it. and if admech, knights, deamons and chaos knights can all share a book, Death Guard, Tau, Guard and GSC should be just fine
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But it would be odd to see a pyschic awakening book with no Imperium in it. Other than the eldar one they've al had some sort of Imperium show up. 
