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 Agamemnon2 wrote:
If the rumor-arm is that of a Guardsman, our collective hopes of better-proportioned AsMil are clearly for naught. The proportions on it are really off. What could it be, though? Binoculars and a pointing finger suggest either special forces recon type or artillery to me, and the army already has Scions for the former and oversaturation of the latter.

Unless it's a new Master of Ordnance sculpt who's really, really hench and shirtless for reasons of designer idiocy.

Ratlings or some sort of Catachans. Trust me they could release just about anything and it'd be better than the original infantry box. Also I think it's the picture making it look off. I have a feeling whatever it is will look better with the full picture

New IG infantry is something that would be really welcome. The current kits are pretty terrible by modern standards, and that has stopped me from expanding my IG collection.

Im assuming GW is not going to do imperium vs imperium (unless suprise renegade guard) but its looking like

Necrons vs X
Harlequins vs X

I cant see Harlequins being the finale so to me as I dont think they have any new big cool thing to build up to, it looks like Necrons will be the big final thing with Silent king, would be fitting aswell if they brought him + Pariahs back with the whole Psyker stuff going on. Only other option is finale has a new faction they have not told us about so its to me going to be

Webway fighting
Custodes+sisters vs Harlequins (harlequins will probably do some big prophecy/ lead the custodes and sisters to find something in the webway)
Necron vs Guard+ death watch (silent king)

Other option is custodes are last and they find one of the lost primarchs as the final reveal. Or suprise final book has Fulgrim bust in middle of fight (Fabius bile books have alot of harlequins leading the Emperors children to do stuff, latest book had Fabius gaining a pretty complete map of the webway)

BrianDavion wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Yea I'm not convinced the Guard symbol was in the FnF marketing but either way Guard got nothing from that book. I think its fair to expect they get more.

Alongside FnF they did a graphic titled 'new rules for these guys' which only mentioned marines. I think i linked to it an the last page.

It didn't include Guard or Sisters, and both of those were mentioned in the original 'new rules for all these codexes' graphic at the start of psychic awakening. It's reasonable to assume they will both get something eventually.

I distinctly remember the Sisters logo featuring prominently during FnF so I'm not convinced on them. IG agreed will get more. I guess we'll have to wait and see. If Sisters are getting something more in PA, it would leave something 4 IOM factions vs 2 Xenos factions, one of which is Harlequins. Can't see it myself.

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I suppose nothings preventing them from having a conflict zone that includes factions that already got stuff and thus are present but don't have rules. such as "sisters versus chaos space marines!"

also we're assuming no new armies are going to be introduced. but yeah IMHO sisters are a "post PA faction" so won't get it anymore then a traitor guard codex released 6 months from now (hypotheticly speaking) can expect it. I imagine though if GW detirmines they need a bit more it'd be easy eneugh to do a one shot book with them. heck faith and fury really does seem like it's a "to be continued" storyline. I could see GW revisiting that conflict to give the sisters a few bits and blobs, and give CSMs a "doctrine equivilant"

Don't get my hopes up.

On the Sisters new units subject: they need a super heavy. I'm thinking a baneblade variant with lots of gothic stylings and armed with an inferno cannon.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
If the rumor-arm is that of a Guardsman, our collective hopes of better-proportioned AsMil are clearly for naught. The proportions on it are really off. What could it be, though? Binoculars and a pointing finger suggest either special forces recon type or artillery to me, and the army already has Scions for the former and oversaturation of the latter.

Unless it's a new Master of Ordnance sculpt who's really, really hench and shirtless for reasons of designer idiocy.

Ratlings or some sort of Catachans. Trust me they could release just about anything and it'd be better than the original infantry box. Also I think it's the picture making it look off. I have a feeling whatever it is will look better with the full picture

Yeah, I think there’s some weird foreshortening in the photo.

I'm still not convinced it isn't something like a Kommando arm, given what appears to be a metal bracelet on the wrist.

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm still not convinced it isn't something like a Kommando arm, given what appears to be a metal bracelet on the wrist.

I am actually about 99% convinced that it is actually ork Kommando arm. Bit too muscle even for Catachan!

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm still not convinced it isn't something like a Kommando arm, given what appears to be a metal bracelet on the wrist.

Catachans have the bracelets too, although I think the rumor engine is meant to be a watch like sly marbo has


And as I'll think you agree, if anything the rumor engine doesn't have ENOUGH muscle compared to the original Catachan arms

Edited in a picture of the heavy weapon team with the binocs.

Gods, kill them with fire!

Anything but more jungle mutants.

Abaddon arrived with a fair few updated and new kits for CSM, it wouldn't surprise me too much if Thraka arrived with at least another unit.

Makari :p

 Jidmah wrote:
Makari :p

Indeed. There's also an as yet unsolved rumour engine of an Orky boot I believe.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
If the rumor-arm is that of a Guardsman, our collective hopes of better-proportioned AsMil are clearly for naught. The proportions on it are really off. What could it be, though? Binoculars and a pointing finger suggest either special forces recon type or artillery to me, and the army already has Scions for the former and oversaturation of the latter.

Unless it's a new Master of Ordnance sculpt who's really, really hench and shirtless for reasons of designer idiocy.

Rattling sniper-spotter is a solid theory.

Indeed it is, and I should have mentioned it above. The current Ratling sculpts (which came out during the original Apocalypse, IIRC) were pretty burly for their size.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
If the rumor-arm is that of a Guardsman, our collective hopes of better-proportioned AsMil are clearly for naught. The proportions on it are really off. What could it be, though? Binoculars and a pointing finger suggest either special forces recon type or artillery to me, and the army already has Scions for the former and oversaturation of the latter.

Unless it's a new Master of Ordnance sculpt who's really, really hench and shirtless for reasons of designer idiocy.

Rattling sniper-spotter is a solid theory.

Indeed it is, and I should have mentioned it above. The current Ratling sculpts (which came out during the original Apocalypse, IIRC) were pretty burly for their size.

They do have the two that they made for Blackstone to compare with as well

 Mr Morden wrote:
They do have the two that they made for Blackstone to compare with as well

I think I looked at this when the RE image was released and the Blackstone Ratlings look nothing like the arm of the RE model. They don't even have similar binoculars.

Always worth bearing in mind the arm might not be for 40K. A Catachan armsman for Blackstone Fortress doesn't seem too far fetched.

When was the last time, other than Sly Marbo, that Astra Militarum got new models? I honestly don't know. Was is the Tempestus Scions kit?

 Esmer wrote:
When was the last time, other than Sly Marbo, that Astra Militarum got new models? I honestly don't know. Was is the Tempestus Scions kit?

When Honorbound came out, we got Severina Raine.
Blackstone Fortress: Escalation is the 'most recent' as we got the Primaris Psyker plastic there, and Blackstone Fortress proper gave us the two Ratling brothers.

Outside of those, Scions came with the Ogryn/Bullgryn, Taurox, and Hydra/Wyvern kits.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Esmer wrote:
When was the last time, other than Sly Marbo, that Astra Militarum got new models? I honestly don't know. Was is the Tempestus Scions kit?

When Honorbound came out, we got Severina Raine.
Blackstone Fortress: Escalation is the 'most recent' as we got the Primaris Psyker plastic there, and Blackstone Fortress proper gave us the two Ratling brothers.

Outside of those, Scions came with the Ogryn/Bullgryn, Taurox, and Hydra/Wyvern kits.

Don't forget, the new Ghaz model has a Scion helmet on the base

The new teaser trailer of the greater good indicates some involvment of the imperium..

 Spreelock wrote:
The new teaser trailer of the greater good indicates some involvment of the imperium..

For those unawares, GW posted a new teaser on the Facebooks.

It's split into three parts:
-A hooded psyker broadcast about "none disputing mankind's right to rule the stars"
-A Tau broadcast about offering "only enlightenment"
-A Genestealer Cult broadcast about overthrowing the oppressors

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Spreelock wrote:
The new teaser trailer of the greater good indicates some involvment of the imperium..

For those unawares, GW posted a new teaser on the Facebooks.

It's split into three parts:
-A hooded psyker broadcast about "none disputing mankind's right to rule the stars"
-A Tau broadcast about offering "only enlightenment"
-A Genestealer Cult broadcast about overthrowing the oppressors

Wonder if the Death Guard story was a red herring and we're getting an imperial faction here. Sisters, IG or Deathwatch maybe?

curious about imperial

Well Death Guard were once imperials...

That looked like a ministorum priest to me. More sisters related stuff would be neat.

No real link to any of the Imperial 'factions' tells me it's just for fluff's sake than Guard, Sisters or anything else.

Tau vs GSC
Space Wolves vs Orks
Mechanicum/Knights vs Daemons/Chaos Knights
Deathwatch vs Necrons
Guard/Custodes vs Death Guard

This would round out what's left I think?

Could be guard or sisters, but we know through stories it's gotta be at least DG vs Tau, with GSC uprising against the Tau at the same time. In the GSC story recently, they were uprising against an Imperial world that had worked out a deal with the Tau empire.

So perhaps it's GSC/Tau/death guard /Imperial Guard. Imperial Guard and GSC would be smart to release in the same book since they share a lot of stuff.... Which makes me think the won't do it But it would be odd to see a pyschic awakening book with no Imperium in it. Other than the eldar one they've al had some sort of Imperium show up.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Could be guard or sisters, but we know through stories it's gotta be at least DG vs Tau, with GSC uprising against the Tau at the same time. In the GSC story recently, they were uprising against an Imperial world that had worked out a deal with the Tau empire.

So perhaps it's GSC/Tau/death guard /Imperial Guard. Imperial Guard and GSC would be smart to release in the same book since they share a lot of stuff.... Which makes me think the won't do it But it would be odd to see a pyschic awakening book with no Imperium in it. Other than the eldar one they've al had some sort of Imperium show up.

The teaser for PA5 that went up on YouTube earlier has transmissions from the Imperium, Tau, and GSC, so it looks like Death Guard aren’t in it after all.

keep in mind Imperial Guard have been involved in every warzone (saw PA1) thus far.

 xttz wrote:


Wonder if the Death Guard story was a red herring and we're getting an imperial faction here. Sisters, IG or Deathwatch maybe?

Well, they didn't turn up at the end of the story so...

BrianDavion wrote:
keep in mind Imperial Guard have been involved in every warzone (saw PA1) thus far.

In theory. In practice, they've gotten no rules or real reference or relevance, so it doesn't matter.