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Yea, I don't see anything on the Frontline Gaming blog.

Again, he was talking about SW and Nid models...the same ones most of us saw weeks ago. No new Necron leaks at this time. Boo.

Bond wrote:

Zathras wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Would Necron Bforce be wave 2 or 1.5?

I'd say 1.5.

How is this important? Oo

It's not even a bloody wave in my opinion and I've just wasted 2 lines on such a useless question

It's called being helpful and answering a question someone has.

Also it must be somewhat important to you if you bothered to post about it. Just saying.

Sasori wrote:

Defeatmyarmy wrote:

Kurgash wrote:

Defeatmyarmy wrote:I am seriously doubtful gw will release necron wave 2 before tyranids and sw wave 2 as they have been needing wave 2 for so much longer

People keep saying that. Said it with Dark Eldar too.

Lol look like I might have made an accurate prediction since supposed pics have been leaked.

Necron Wave 2 pictures?

No necron wave 2 update. I guessed that tyranids an space wolves were being released first.

No gak sherlock.

Well, Thunderwolf Calvary is $54.50 US... That's my guess for a 3 pack of Wraiths or Spyders.

Anpu-adom wrote:Well, Thunderwolf Calvary is $54.50 US... That's my guess for a 3 pack of Wraiths or Spyders.

And well worth it, IMO.

$54.50 US equates to £33 GB.

I can live with that for what is arguably the best unit in the whole dex

$54.50 makes perfect sense for 3 Spyders, but if Wraiths are 3/box, I think there's a good chance they'll be even cheaper. The most comparable boxsets I can think of (3x 40mm models) would be Tyranid Warriors or Raveners, which are $42 and $44.50.

But hell...I'd pay $54.50 for 'em anyway (you didn't hear that, GW!)

Alternatively, it might be $47--the same as the VC Crypt Horrors/Vargheist kit.

whigwam wrote:$54.50 makes perfect sense for 3 Spyders, but if Wraiths are 3/box, I think there's a good chance they'll be even cheaper. The most comparable boxsets I can think of (3x 40mm models) would be Tyranid Warriors or Raveners, which are $42 and $44.50.

But hell...I'd pay $54.50 for 'em anyway (you didn't hear that, GW!)

The only thing that the new Wraiths really have in common with the old is their name. I would not be surprised if the new wraiths come on a larger base. It would be an advantage over all.

Changes of base size are the exception, not the norm. And I don't think there's any reason to expect a change. I mean, Wraiths got an extra wound, but they're still just a T4 model. That puts their profile in line with many other 40mm models.

I'm not convinced a bigger base would be a great advantage either. Wraiths are really vulnerable to massed small arms fire, so I like mine able to hide near troops and out of LOS. I know from my Bloodcrushers that a unit of 60mm bases is not easily hidden. The only plus would be Whip Coils having a greater effect, but I think they do fine on a 40mm base. I rarely have more than a couple models un-Coiled anyway.

NecronLord3 wrote:

whigwam wrote:$54.50 makes perfect sense for 3 Spyders, but if Wraiths are 3/box, I think there's a good chance they'll be even cheaper. The most comparable boxsets I can think of (3x 40mm models) would be Tyranid Warriors or Raveners, which are $42 and $44.50.

But hell...I'd pay $54.50 for 'em anyway (you didn't hear that, GW!)

The only thing that the new Wraiths really have in common with the old is their name. I would not be surprised if the new wraiths come on a larger base. It would be an advantage over all.

I see how it would be an advantage for whipcoils, but how else would be being on a larger base (if, flying base like the old spyders) be a benefit?

According to the art and Canoptek prefix wraiths are now more like small versions of the forgeworld tomb stalker, burly sharp millipede things with the same robo face as a spyder. I could see that on a bigger base.

The codex art also shows a long spindly tail. All of the bulk is concentrated near the head/torso (unlike the Tomb Stalker, but just like the OOP Wraith models). I think the Tomb Stalker, Spyders, and Wraiths will all have a lot in common appearance-wise, but not in size. Now I'm curious, are there any T4 models currently on a 60mm base? The only non-MC I'm aware of on 60mm (besides HWTs) are Bloodcrushers and Thunderwolves, both of which are T5 and "cavalry" type models.

Any more recent news on a release date for the Wraiths and other 2nd wave models?

ive not heard anything. im wondering the skimmers "ala blades?" are coming out and how big there are going to be? hopes for the same size as eldar "falcons"?

I expect the 2nd wave for May now.

whigwam wrote:The codex art also shows a long spindly tail. All of the bulk is concentrated near the head/torso (unlike the Tomb Stalker, but just like the OOP Wraith models). I think the Tomb Stalker, Spyders, and Wraiths will all have a lot in common appearance-wise, but not in size. Now I'm curious, are there any T4 models currently on a 60mm base? The only non-MC I'm aware of on 60mm (besides HWTs) are Bloodcrushers and Thunderwolves, both of which are T5 and "cavalry" type models.

Look at the T5 Destroyers and OOP Tomb Spyder, they are on flying bases.

I can imagine 60mm based wraiths will relative ease

I expect Wraiths to be on Flying bases. Great for whipcoiling enemies, but a headache,

The less flying bases the better if you ask me. I hope for Wraiths on 40mm and Spiders on 60mm.
Tomb Blades will be probably on flying bases tho.

brainscan wrote:ive not heard anything. im wondering the skimmers "ala blades?" are coming out and how big there are going to be? hopes for the same size as eldar "falcons"?

uuh - a falcon would be a wee bit big. I think you mean either a jetbike or a vyper (and TBH I think even a vyper would be too big - these things are to be fielded in substantial units...)

I am guessing Tomb Blades will be about the size of DE Hellions, or is that still to big?

Judging from the artwork alone I would say that DE Hellion size seems about right.

I'm going to bet forge world will cash in on wraiths spyders and stalker before gw released them a year later. I Read on the news forum they (gw) admitted to fine cast products being defective so might be focusing on fixing their designs before moving on to a new project.

Defeatmyarmy wrote:I'm going to bet forge world will cash in on wraiths spyders and stalker before gw released them a year later.

You would be losing that bet.

TBD wrote:

Defeatmyarmy wrote:I'm going to bet forge world will cash in on wraiths spyders and stalker before gw released them a year later.

You would be losing that bet.

Wasnt the ork battle wagon forge world only for a long time? I would definitely be willing to pay extra if it means I could get the models earlier, just hopefully not cost 3x as much.

Defeatmyarmy wrote:

TBD wrote:

Defeatmyarmy wrote:I'm going to bet forge world will cash in on wraiths spyders and stalker before gw released them a year later.

You would be losing that bet.

Wasnt the ork battle wagon forge world only for a long time? I would definitely be willing to pay extra if it means I could get the models earlier, just hopefully not cost 3x as much.

I think he meant that as all signs point to the 'Cron 2nd wave happening around May, your claim that GW wouldn't be releasing the new models until a year from now would not be a sound bet to make.
(all of the Necron rumors so far have more or less panned out, so we have little reason to doubt these ones)

Ctan_Overlord wrote:Judging from the artwork alone I would say that DE Hellion size seems about right.

No actually, I would imagine them to be a bit bigger.
Somewhere between the size of a destroyer and a hellion.
Tomb Blades are, after all, necron warriors in a fancy chair. And warriors are already a tad bigger than Eldar.