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CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Ctan_Overlord wrote:Judging from the artwork alone I would say that DE Hellion size seems about right.

No actually, I would imagine them to be a bit bigger.
Somewhere between the size of a destroyer and a hellion.
Tomb Blades are, after all, necron warriors in a fancy chair. And warriors are already a tad bigger than Eldar.

That might be true, but a standing warrior is slightly bigger than a ghost ark warrior, so size-wise the Hellion is what I'm expecting as the vehicled one is smaller

EDIT: I know that the Ark warriors are not whole and have crossed arms but they are too small to have all this blamed on these few things

Hmmmm
From looking at many rumours on the interenet we all know and love, and having talked to people working at GW I'm pretty sure that the following are defeinatly/probably coming this year:

Tau Codex (they are so bad atm it hurts :( )
6th Gen Rulebook
Black Templars Codex (Some stuff in there just needs sorting out really...)
Dark Angels Codex (Old as hell)
Chaos SPace Marines Codex (honestly cant wait for this, hopefully they will buff possessed cos they suck but are awesome models)
Maybe an Eldar Codex

Should be a good year, I just dont like waiting ^^

you really think that in the next 9 1/2 months there will be 5 codex and 6th edition?

i'll say you will be lucky if there are more then 2 codex and the main rulebook...

I'm guessing Eldar early next year, but the rest I expect will be true.

so of the next 9 months, 5 of them will be 40k, the other 4 split between fant and lotr and the new hobbit expansion? I'd Say we shold get something a few months before 6th, then 6th, then a few months after, another dex... i wouldn't expect much more beyond that (hobbit should be nov area, and they generaly don't put out any codex in dec, i highly doubt they will put out a new codex within a month of when 6th comes out, nor any codex a month after any other codex)

Daykinator wrote:Hmmmm
From looking at many rumours on the interenet we all know and love, and having talked to people working at GW I'm pretty sure that the following are defeinatly/probably coming this year:

Tau Codex (they are so bad atm it hurts :( )
6th Gen Rulebook
Black Templars Codex (Some stuff in there just needs sorting out really...)
Dark Angels Codex (Old as hell)
Chaos SPace Marines Codex (honestly cant wait for this, hopefully they will buff possessed cos they suck but are awesome models)
Maybe an Eldar Codex

Should be a good year, I just dont like waiting ^^

You forgot the 5 army books and the Hobbit expansion also due this year

I have to wonder how long Orks will be able to hold out with a 4th edition codex. Most armies that are 2 or more editions behind are absolutely horrible, but Orks seem to be holding up fine in 5th, and the rumored 6th didn't seem to do too much to damage them either.

Wasn't the rumored/leaked 6th total bullgak?

Anvildude wrote:I have to wonder how long Orks will be able to hold out with a 4th edition codex. Most armies that are 2 or more editions behind are absolutely horrible, but Orks seem to be holding up fine in 5th, and the rumored 6th didn't seem to do too much to damage them either.

As a Xenos player, I am very hopeful for more necron models - I was excited about the codex, although, unlike most necron players, I was recently playing the old dex quite a bit.

I am currently using destroyers for tomblades, and my old wraiths work fine for new. I have had to just proxy the stalker in the few games I have fielded one.
I have some incredibly crude (read - simplistically painted cardboard and foam on large flyer bases) proxies for the flyers, and am not sure how well I like the triarch stalker.


Also, regarding the comment about tau above - yes, they are VERY hard to play and unforgiving; they take a lot of skill and allow for NO mistakes in dice or generalship.
They are FAR from dead however - see some of the recent battlereports - in fact, I took 4th overall in a large tourney last month with my beloved tau (went 3-1-2 with them in this event, and have a winning record with them even in competitive play).

I just hope the my beloved tau do not get as massive a change as the necrons did in their dex - half my old models were nerfed pretty hard (gee...the new models were better....hmmm...strange).

If the new wave does not hit in a couple of months, I will use some of the old bike style destroyers for tomblades and scratch build something better for the flyers (I have seen a couple of cool ones out there).
Not sure yet about the stalker - have to see if it fits in well with my lists and play style.

Go Xenos!!!!!

(edits: called the triarch stalker a tombstalker - so why was that not in the dex again?).

davethepak wrote:Go Xenos!!!!!

Amen to that.
I'm hoping cron wave 2 is before 6th, but my hopes don't amount to much. Ever.
What I DO hope happens though is a Crisis/Broadside mixed squad like the Destroyers. That would be great, better than great if they could split fire.

Actually...
DS the squad into the enemy army, fusion blaster a Land Raider and railgun a rhino. LOL, mix squad for FTW!!

Well, it seems that Empire will get April (according to Hastings @ Warseer).
It looks like they get a Wizard on a Gryphon, a War Alter, and New Knightly Orders.

It seems to me that there may be room near the end of the month for a small batch of Necron releases.

Anpu-adom wrote:Well, it seems that Empire will get April (according to Hastings @ Warseer).
It looks like they get a Wizard on a Gryphon, a War Alter, and New Knightly Orders.

It seems to me that there may be room near the end of the month for a small batch of Necron releases.

That's probably the least conclusive evidence I've ever heard. That's like saying "Well, it's 80 degrees and sunny today, but I suppose there is a .0001% chance of snow so I better get my winter boots and snow shovel out/"

Anpu-adom wrote:Well, it seems that Empire will get April (according to Hastings @ Warseer).
It looks like they get a Wizard on a Gryphon, a War Alter, and New Knightly Orders.

It seems to me that there may be room near the end of the month for a small batch of Necron releases.

A full Fantasy release and a complete restart and doubling of their paint range. Yeah, best month for a Necron release
BTW, Necrons are in May according to current rumours.

Brother SRM wrote:

Anpu-adom wrote:Well, it seems that Empire will get April (according to Hastings @ Warseer).
It looks like they get a Wizard on a Gryphon, a War Alter, and New Knightly Orders.

It seems to me that there may be room near the end of the month for a small batch of Necron releases.

That's probably the least conclusive evidence I've ever heard. That's like saying "Well, it's 80 degrees and sunny today, but I suppose there is a .0001% chance of snow so I better get my winter boots and snow shovel out/"

Did I say it was 'evidence'? I thought I was presenting my opinion, as is my right. You may think it a naive opinion, but that's your right too.

Besides... I do live in South Dakota, where there have been 60 degree temperature swings in 24 hours, and a few of them do result in snow.

Kroothawk wrote:

Anpu-adom wrote:Well, it seems that Empire will get April (according to Hastings @ Warseer).
It looks like they get a Wizard on a Gryphon, a War Alter, and New Knightly Orders.

It seems to me that there may be room near the end of the month for a small batch of Necron releases.

A full Fantasy release and a complete restart and doubling of their paint range. Yeah, best month for a Necron release
BTW, Necrons are in May according to current rumours.

I don't play Fantasy, so I'm probably way off base, but it doesn't sound like a full reboot (like Dark Eldar or Necrons). It looks like 2 new models and a bunch of upgrade sprues. Besides, the paints aren't produced by Games Workshop, merely distributed by them.

Anpu-adom wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:I don't play Fantasy, so I'm probably way off base, but it doesn't sound like a full reboot (like Dark Eldar or Necrons). It looks like 2 new models and a bunch of upgrade sprues. Besides, the paints aren't produced by Games Workshop, merely distributed by them.

Its a new book, 4 large plastic kits, 2 minisprues, and some finecast. Crons ought to be May.

As for Tau and Eldar, Harry mentioned next year for both of them. Various rumors have Tau as the first book of 2013, and Eldar maybe getting a flier of some sort.

Anpu-adom wrote:I don't play Fantasy, so I'm probably way off base, but it doesn't sound like a full reboot (like Dark Eldar or Necrons). It looks like 2 new models and a bunch of upgrade sprues. Besides, the paints aren't produced by Games Workshop, merely distributed by them.

(just in case you were irritated by the above quote scramble: )
Empire gets 4 major plastic kits, 2 plastic blisters and 4 Finecasts plus an army book. So 159 new products is enough for April.

Look on the bright side guys - both paints and Empire made it into april timeslot.
That means the may timeslot is something Necrons could take. And that would be 6 months since release - same as it was with DE.

Dakka's Necron community wait in hope that GW does not give the Exterminatus of the SW/Nid treatment to the new crons

I'm going to buy 6 of these while waiting : http://puppetswar.com/product.php?id_product=96

If official Wraith models really show up in may - these will be the "backup unit" or "2nd, less loved, wraith unit".
Again - it's GW's own fault we have to resort to buying unofficial models.

TBH i woudl be tempted to get those anyway. I can't see GW shipping the Wraith/Spider kit in boxes of 3. I reckon it will be one per box for approx £10, probably more (like the destroyers)

Ya, that's actually a pretty nice deal for something that looks exactly like a necron model (the head even looks almost identical to an old tomb spyder).

Praxiss wrote:TBH i woudl be tempted to get those anyway. I can't see GW shipping the Wraith/Spider kit in boxes of 3. I reckon it will be one per box for approx £10, probably more (like the destroyers)

The last rumour in Warseer asserted that Wraiths and Spiders won't be a "dual kit", quite sensibly as well. The wraiths, I suspect, will be three per box like the TK stalkers. The spider will probably be a single unit. these are likely to be the standard default unit sizes.

The dual kit rumour has been nonsense right form the start, in the codex artwork the two are obviously significantly different in size and every single major component : abdomen, spine, torso, backplate, legs (except possibly the head) is different they would have to give you virtually a full kit of each anyway. People should maybe use their own eyes rather than letting other people tell them what what they see.

Yes, 3 wraiths is the minimum size as is 1 spider.

But it's also 3 spyders equal 3 Heavy support choices.

NecronLord3 wrote:But it's also 3 spyders equal 3 Heavy support choices.

Or 3 spyders = 1 heavy support choice

Hopefully we'll see in a month.

NecronLord3 wrote:But it's also 3 spyders equal 3 Heavy support choices.

Anpu-adom wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:But it's also 3 spyders equal 3 Heavy support choices.

Or 3 spyders = 1 heavy support choice

Hopefully we'll see in a month.

What? The codex clearly says that you can add 2 additional spiders to a unit, for a unit of 3 spiders (1 heavy slot). The only thing is that they don't operate independently anymore but it DOES mean you can get some good wound allocation shenanigans going on with them and their upgrades.

Kevin949 wrote:

Anpu-adom wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:But it's also 3 spyders equal 3 Heavy support choices.

Or 3 spyders = 1 heavy support choice

Hopefully we'll see in a month.

What? The codex clearly says that you can add 2 additional spiders to a unit, for a unit of 3 spiders (1 heavy slot). The only thing is that they don't operate independently anymore but it DOES mean you can get some good wound allocation shenanigans going on with them and their upgrades.

Yep... 1 heavy support choice for the necrons is 1-3 spyders... each spyder can take any of the 3 options.

What are we fighting about again?

As far as the 'GW sells to the minimum unit size', Grey Knights can take a single Paladin as a squad... pretty sure they still sell them in kits of 5. They have proven time and time again, just because they usually do it one way doesn't mean that they always will.

I wasn't fighting about anything, I was confused that it sounded like someone implied spiders are 1 per unit, then your response sounded like we had to wait a month to find out if that was the case...I'm so lost.

Anyway, spiders won't be 3 to a box. Destroyers aren't, why would spiders be? At least with wraiths you need to be able to field a minimum unit, so they must come 3 to a box. Otherwise, why would you want to make 3 purchases instead of just one? I mean, that would be pretty messed up of GW to have to stock 3x the inventory space makes it less convenient for the customer.

But it churns out more profit. Now we see GW's idea behind selling models in a minimum unit size in singles. It means extra cash if you want to use the models legally

IHateNids wrote:But it churns out more profit. Now we see GW's idea behind selling models in a minimum unit size in singles. It means extra cash if you want to use the models legally

How would it churn out more profit? I wouldn't pay 20 bucks for a single wraith, would you? I bet it will be 45 for 3. If they box them single then I'd expect them to be similar price to the blisters previously, and I believe those were 15 USD.