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Eldar jetbikes can all have scatter lasers now for 10ppm

str 6 ap 6 heavy 4.

I should quit this game. The thought of getting mad at someone because he put like 40 jetbikes across the table from me should be "oh cool a fluffy saim hain army" not "this guy is a piece of $&!@"

4 x 270 points for a 10 man jetbike squad with 40 shots each at str 6, with 3+ jink, and eldar jetbike movement WITH ObSec.

I just cant understand this. Seriously its like they are trying to ruin their own game to lower their stock and sell the company off. Thats the only possible explination for something this insane.

warhammer 40k mmo. If I can drive an ork trukk into the back of a space marine dread and explode in a fireball of epic, I can die happy!

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I really want to believe this is a typo of some kind because this is just flat out broken. Like S6 spam is something 40K needs more of.
   
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I need to buy more jetbikes....


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3+ T4 1 wound models...

If that list goes first it will create some havoc but let's mathhammer it.

160 shots. That will kill 30 Power armoured marines in a turn. Now they will also likely need to take care of armour, units out of LOS and god knows what else. If they go first they will get some kills but no way can that list do enough damage to stop getting ripped to shreds next turn. Throw some blast weapons onto them and so on and you will see many dead jetbikes.

Off the top of my head I can think of half a dozen builds at 1500 of non cheese marines that would hold up against that list with no worries at all.

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Not a typo, atleast not on the part of the person putting up the info. Might be a typo in the White Dwarf but that's about the LEAST likely thing to happen, right? And there's now video of the inside of the White Dwarf. Shows it true.

I think we all need to buy more jetbikes.

Will also say, they can all also have Shuriken Cannons too and Bladestorm is still fully active.

Edit: Made a friggin typo myself... Ironic.

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 Pyeatt wrote:
I need to buy more jetbikes....


This is how friendships end.

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That's right, folks, line right up! Step in line for the new and improved, ultimate, gotta-have-it, need-it-now, jetbike kits!



Buy, BUY, BUY!!!

   
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 throwoff wrote:
3+ T4 1 wound models...

If that list goes first it will create some havoc but let's mathhammer it.

160 shots. That will kill 30 Power armoured marines in a turn. Now they will also likely need to take care of armour, units out of LOS and god knows what else. If they go first they will get some kills but no way can that list do enough damage to stop getting ripped to shreds next turn. Throw some blast weapons onto them and so on and you will see many dead jetbikes.

Off the top of my head I can think of half a dozen builds at 1500 of non cheese marines that would hold up against that list with no worries at all.


10 of them, with guide, kill close to 4 wraiths a turn, 3 with decursion. Now I am always happy when something can poop on wraiths. But if they dont stand a chance, what does.

Also you are insane if you think a marine army losing 30 tacticals in one turn is not worried or horribly crippled at this point.

Also, just for fun, thats 90 dead orks on average from the green tide. 90 in one turn.

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How much is a Cannon if the SL is 10 points?!

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Also 10
   
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The Eldar player can just use all of his remaining points on anti-tank, or bring the improved wraithknights, or maybe the shinning spears are ungodly too. Or utilize some of those psychic powers and rend things to death with endless shuriken cannon jetbikes!! Or all the other options I don't even know about Eldar.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
Step1) Bring a codex that can take Landraiders, also have some Imperial Knights.

Step2) ??????

Step3) Profit


Spamming imperial knights and making take all comers fun fluffy lists extinct is NOT a solution.

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You're not understanding the HHHobby, man.

The HHHobby isn't about playing games with these miniatures (since GW's management has cited that most players don't actually play). It's about buying as many GW miniatures as you can possibly get your hands on. Now get out there and make Kirby proud!

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How is this overpowered? All you have to take are vehicles and you will be perfectly fine.

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 SharkoutofWata wrote:
Not a typo, atleast not on the part of the person putting up the info. Might be a typo in the White Dwarf but that's about the LEAST likely thing to happen, right? And there's no video of the inside of the White Dwarf. Shows it true.

I think we all need to buy more jetbikes.

Will also say, they can all also have Shuriken Cannons too and Bladestorm is still fully active.


we sure it's not a mistranslation?

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Jesus. What the hell. It seems the Eldar will continue to be the top dogs. Watch them not get a single nerf. The only possible cherry on top to make these situation worse. At this rate its going to be End Times Everyone vs Eldar.
   
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 gmaleron wrote:
How is this overpowered? All you have to take are vehicles and you will be perfectly fine.


Because

(a) After that 1080 points, you can dump almost the entire rest of the army into AT, and

(b) With Eldar psychic powers, you can (probably) just make all of these jetbikes pseudo-rending and then blast every vehicle through Land Raiders to death.


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BrianDavion wrote:
 SharkoutofWata wrote:
Not a typo, atleast not on the part of the person putting up the info. Might be a typo in the White Dwarf but that's about the LEAST likely thing to happen, right? And there's no video of the inside of the White Dwarf. Shows it true.

I think we all need to buy more jetbikes.

Will also say, they can all also have Shuriken Cannons too and Bladestorm is still fully active.


we sure it's not a mistranslation?


It's literally there in English in the video that got posted in News & Rumors.

EDIT: Photo

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Positive. It's video of the White Dwarf in English. It's on the Rumor thread.

That no was meant to be a 'now'. Changes the whole meaning of my sentence don't it? Sucks being unable to type sometimes. (Speaking of typos...)
   
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Well... I guess its time to get more Leman Russes.

And Jetbikes.

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 Rippy wrote:
The sky is fallin'


That's because it is made of jetbikes.

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I think there is a lot of overreacting going on so far in this thread. S6 is okay at best and we don't know what Psychic Powers the Eldar will have, I highly doubt they will get "pseudo rending" with Scatter Lasers. Also from what rumors have said they lost the TL ability which is pretty awesome, not only that they are a T4 model with a 3+ save which is not invincible in the slightest. I also thought Scatter Lasers were only 3 shots? Even then its not the end of the world, all it means is that Mechanized lists and Vehicles will be more vital now.

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Do we know the scatter laser rules? Maybe they got nerfed
   
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 Great White wrote:
Do we know the scatter laser rules? Maybe they got nerfed


They have not, they are the same. S6 4 shots.

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 Accolade wrote:
 Great White wrote:
Do we know the scatter laser rules? Maybe they got nerfed


They have not, they are the same. S6 4 shots.


Evidence of this anywhere? And even then its not the end of the world, instead of freaking out why not discuss ways to counter this?

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 gmaleron wrote:
 Accolade wrote:
 Great White wrote:
Do we know the scatter laser rules? Maybe they got nerfed


They have not, they are the same. S6 4 shots.


Evidence of this anywhere? And even then its not the end of the world, instead of freaking out why not discuss ways to counter this?


No one is freaking out like its the end of the world... 160 s6 shots in just over 1000 points is pretty ridiculous though.
   
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You know that box is only going to have one scat laser.

Time to start selling scatter lasers at an inflated price out of my bits box.


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 gmaleron wrote:
 Accolade wrote:
 Great White wrote:
Do we know the scatter laser rules? Maybe they got nerfed


They have not, they are the same. S6 4 shots.


Evidence of this anywhere? And even then its not the end of the world, instead of freaking out why not discuss ways to counter this?





All the evidence for the horrors to come.

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 gmaleron wrote:
 Accolade wrote:
 Great White wrote:
Do we know the scatter laser rules? Maybe they got nerfed


They have not, they are the same. S6 4 shots.


Evidence of this anywhere? And even then its not the end of the world, instead of freaking out why not discuss ways to counter this?


Uh, right in the video in News & Rumors. 7:54




Edit: dang, Ravenous was too quick on the draw!

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