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**Banzaimash**

Ouch, hold a second

**MrMerlin**

broadsides? ill field a mindwar and fortune farseer, along with 3 cheapo warlocks+

should be about 140, and s10 ap1 doesnt scratch my rerollable 4++ on all 4 dudes

**im2randomghgh**

MrMerlin wrote:broadsides? ill field a mindwar and fortune farseer, along with 3 cheapo warlocks+

should be about 140, and s10 ap1 doesnt scratch my rerollable 4++ on all 4 dudes

2x XV9-150

12 TL Str5 AP5 at BS4 per turn, 4+ invul. save.

**Banzaimash**

Armoured sentinal.w. lascannon-70pts.
(These units are roughly even, because if your weapon hits the sentinal, it'll blast it into next week; likewise with my lascannon to your suit. Both have the same BS, and while you have the missile pods which can potentially wreck the scout at 24" range, I would and could easily avoid this range radius and maintain fire upon you).

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**im2randomghgh**

Banzaimash wrote:Armoured sentinal.w. lascannon-70pts.
(These units are roughly even, because if your weapon hits the sentinal, it'll blast it into next week; likewise with my lascannon to your suit. Both have the same BS, and while you have the missile pods which can potentially wreck the scout at 24" range, I would and could easily avoid this range radius and maintain fire upon you).

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Sorry, took too long in typing.

What were you responding too?

Oh and XV88 broadside.

T5=no ID, whereas one round of shooting from my railguns mean the end of your sentinel.

**Banzaimash**

They're T4 on the GW website (I don't have the Tau codex).

**im2randomghgh**

Banzaimash wrote:They're T4 on the GW website (I don't have the Tau codex).

I may have confused them with XV9s, but i'm not sure. I seem to have misplaced my dex.

**Banzaimash**

im2randomghgh wrote:
2x XV9-150

12 TL Str5 AP5 at BS4 per turn, 4+ invul. save.

Haemonculus with hexrifle joined to unit of 6 wracks and an acothyst with a hexrifle=150pts.

**im2randomghgh**

Banzaimash wrote:
im2randomghgh wrote:
2x XV9-150

12 TL Str5 AP5 at BS4 per turn, 4+ invul. save.

Haemonculus with hexrifle joined to unit of 6 wracks and an acothyst with a hexrifle=150pts.

2x XV9s with PIGs-190

Now it's 16 shots per turn.

**BlapBlapBlap**

30 Man Death Company all equipped with Jump Packs, 5 Thunder hammers and 20 PWs.

1500pts

(If you read it says keep it up to 1500 points. Am I the only person who realises this, correct me if I am mistaken)

**Banzaimash**

What's PIG's? :S

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BlapBlapBlap wrote:30 Man Death Company all equipped with Jump Packs, 5 Thunder hammers and 15 PWs.

How many points is that?

**BlapBlapBlap**

1500 on the nose.

**TaddleMunkey**

Abbadon the despoiler- 275

**Ridealgh**

Some form of Titan.

(I know its not allowed but neither are 1500 point units)

**Banzaimash**

im2randomghgh wrote:
Banzaimash wrote:
im2randomghgh wrote:
2x XV9-150

12 TL Str5 AP5 at BS4 per turn, 4+ invul. save.

Haemonculus with hexrifle joined to unit of 6 wracks and an acothyst with a hexrifle=150pts.

2x XV9s with PIGs-190

Now it's 16 shots per turn.

BT Vindicator with PotMS, Hunter Killer, Extra Armour, Pintle Storm bolter and smoke launcher= 188pts.

**DarthSpader**

TWO vindicators. Plus 5 spezz mehreens and a spechul spezz mehreen wif a sooper spechul weapon!

**BlapBlapBlap**

It says up to 1500 point units in the OP.

**im2randomghgh**

BlapBlapBlap wrote:It says up to 1500 point units in the OP.

Yeah but you can't go right from 190 to 1500.

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Banzaimash wrote:What's PIG's? :S

Phased Ion Guns.

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Banzaimash wrote:
im2randomghgh wrote:
Banzaimash wrote:
im2randomghgh wrote:
2x XV9-150

12 TL Str5 AP5 at BS4 per turn, 4+ invul. save.

Haemonculus with hexrifle joined to unit of 6 wracks and an acothyst with a hexrifle=150pts.

2x XV9s with PIGs-190

Now it's 16 shots per turn.

BT Vindicator with PotMS, Hunter Killer, Extra Armour, Pintle Storm bolter and smoke launcher= 188pts.

Hammer head with Railgun, MT, DP, 2x Seeker Missiles, BC-210

**Banzaimash**

LR Vanquisher .w. Pask=205pts

**im2randomghgh**

Banzaimash wrote:LR Vanquisher .w. Pask=205pts

TBH I can't see that beating the Hammerhead.

Either way 2x Broadsides-210

Nothing with an AV can beat an equivalent amount of point in broadsides. Win.

**BlapBlapBlap**

Ok, change from my last post:

10 DC with 1 TH and 5 PW.

I am certain this is below 500 pts.

**MrMerlin**

i think there are too many broadsides in this thread, and all this XV2375xvyccXV this'nthis confuses me.....

**BlapBlapBlap**

MrMerlin wrote:i think there are too many broadsides in this thread, and all this XV2375xvyccXV this'nthis confuses me.....

True. Then again, Space Communists probably have to talk in numbers just to understand what all the different races are saying.

**Banzaimash**

im2randomghgh wrote:
Banzaimash wrote:LR Vanquisher .w. Pask=205pts

TBH I can't see that beating the Hammerhead.

Either way 2x Broadsides-210

Nothing with an AV can beat an equivalent amount of point in broadsides. Win.

Armoured sentinals .c. lascannons x3 =210. You pen sentinals on 3's, I kill broadsides ID on 2's. Both units hitb on 4+, however your weapons are twin linked but I have one more gun than you. As for your glancing missiles, at 72" sentinals can easily stay out of range of the 24" missile range. Also, Sentinals can move and shoot, though I'm not so sure about Broadsides (correct me if i'm wrong). All in all, it would result in a close long range firefight.

**seapheonix**

8 warp spiders, exarch w/deep strike and dual spinners. That would be 18 str 6 shots, quick and dirty. 201pts

**Deadshot**

6 Sternguard,all with Combi Meltas, in a Drop Pod-215

**koridon**

Oh and XV88 broadside.

T5=no ID, whereas one round of shooting from my railguns mean the end of your sentinel.

A broadside does have a t4, i know cause I ID them all the time with s8 weapons,

Armoured sentinals .c. lascannons x3 =210. You pen sentinals on 3's, I kill broadsides ID on 2's. Both units hitb on 4+, however your weapons are twin linked but I have one more gun than you. As for your glancing missiles, at 72" sentinals can easily stay out of range of the 24" missile range. Also, Sentinals can move and shoot, though I'm not so sure about Broadsides (correct me if i'm wrong). All in all, it would result in a close long range firefight.

They can only move and fire if they take auto-stablization sytem for 10 points which gives them slow and purposeful

**p_gray99**

Banzaimash wrote:It's true that you will pen on 3's. However, first you must hit the speeder. With a 4+ cover save for moving fully and the fact that your scouts are BS3, the likelihood of you doing me damage with your rocket is less than the likelihood me doing you damage. With my higher strength and more accurate rockets (twin linked at BS4(the BS4 doesn't really make a difference with scatter weapons but still, it helps)) combined with the Str 5 Ap4 HBB. I will destroy your unit within 2-3 turns. You have made the assumption that you are able to deploy in cover and benefit from your camo cloaks, I have assumed contrary to this.

With a recomended 25% of the board being cover (BRB p. 88) I should be able to get cover, in which case I win.

im2randomghgh wrote:
Banzaimash wrote:It's true that you will pen on 3's. However, first you must hit the speeder. With a 4+ cover save for moving fully and the fact that your scouts are BS3, the likelihood of you doing me damage with your rocket is less than the likelihood me doing you damage. With my higher strength and more accurate rockets (twin linked at BS4(the BS4 doesn't really make a difference with scatter weapons but still, it helps)) combined with the Str 5 Ap4 HBB. I will destroy your unit within 2-3 turns. You have made the assumption that you are able to deploy in cover and benefit from your camo cloaks, I have assumed contrary to this.

TBH Str5 is unimpressive to me, as a tau player.

Anyways, it has an AV so BROADSIDES!

2x XV88-140

or for closer to the point of the typhoon, 1 XV88-70

Yh, broadsides do get boring after a while, which is why I tried something different.
Killing them, however, never gets boring. Against one, I'll go for the scouts again, this time with no missile launcher or camo cloaks, but the serg has a power weapon. 90 (I think). outflanking.

**Banzaimash**

koridon wrote:They can only move and fire if they take auto-stablization sytem for 10 points which gives them slow and purposeful

There is no auto-stabilization in the codex.

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p_gray99 wrote:With a recomended 25% of the board being cover (BRB p. 88) I should be able to get cover, in which case I win.

Even if you are in cover, you do not 'win', you merely even the playing field.

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Do the scouts still have snipers?

**DreadlordME!**

20 Grey Knights Paladins w/halberds in 2 Ravens with Heavy Bolter and Assault Cannons.

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MOOOOO!