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Well I guess in my desire to own a copy of the book I did not care, but I think my game will be over due to librarian using Push over and over, I almost killed him with perils of the warp today.....

Yeah, I saved all my Fate Points for re-rolls on the Perils Chart. Only a couple of bad things happened.

I know it says that Libbys cant be dreads but I dont care I'd love to see a DW Libby dread.

Ignore it. If you look at the next section of the rules it lists all the rules that a Dread can use. This list includes a whole stack of the Talents you can only get if you are a Psyker, including Psy-Rating. I think that the 'No Libby's Allowed' was a late addition, an afterthought, or something they forgot to remove.

Given the amount of mistakes throughout Rites of Battle it is unsurprising as small as this slipped through. Fun Fact: That's not the only mistake on that page. See if you can find them all!

What do I get as a prize? A GIBBS slap around the back of my head?

Just the warm fuzzy feeling in your gut that if the books were proof-read by HBMC it would make for a better future and a brighter tomorrow.

(/ego stroking)

H.B.M.C. wrote:(/ego stroking)

Careful, you might be arrested for "lewd behavior."

Well I do not think I am going to let my librarian inter himself within a dreadnought, because then he will get bad ideas....

Are there any requirements for becoming a Dread or could the characters ingame just forget everything they know and go derp until they are mangled enough to be upgraded?

I would imagine there are quite a few, but not having the book yet, and my stupidity I got 2 copies on the way now thanks to a belated birthday gift. If there are not, then I am going to need to make some up because I am not just going to give a dreadnought body away. But I would think that there are some disadvantages to bieng a dread anyways.

Yes... I'm trying to remember off the top of my head...EDIT: (CLEARLY MY MEMORY FAILS ME, see below)...

Becoming a Dread costs 5000 EXP, and you must have 60+ renown, 0 Fate Points and have committed some great act of heroism.

Thanks for the correction. Its been a long day.

Then I guess since I am going to have 2 copies I am just going to destroy those pages really quick and let the players look at that copy of the book, because one of my players will still purposely try to become a dread.....

And you still have to allow it. They don't just get it by having the prerequisites above. You have to ok the change.

Ok, I thought it was like in D&D ( hart to tell without a copy in hand ) where all you needed to do was say: "hey I meet these prerquisites, I am just goona do this" , which then causes my whiny players to say the game is not fair because I cannot do that.....

Nope. Altenrate ranks require GM permission - otherwise everyone would just choose the best one and the game would be dull.

To be completely honest at this point in time I do not think that my space marines will make it past rank 3

Why?

Cuse they might just die at rank 2.

You have players survive to rank 3? Mine alway carry extra character sheets, ever since the great campaign of 2002!

'What do you mean our actions have consequences?"

"I told you not to read from the book!"

"Who needs Sanity? I have Explosives!"

My players do not use Squad Tactics. I have to say that I've noticed to be placing too much easy stuff for their first set of missions. I was able to give them serious troubles on the later part where they faced angry Taus, but that's all.

They never had the necessity of using squad tactics. They abhore the thing saying that is sensless to choose a squad commander (they are veteran 40k players). They are slightly changing though..

They were always lucky though... especially the Assault Marine Blood Angel that literally shred in pieces a Tau Commander in armor with a tremendous amount of damage due to Righteous Fury... he took the Tau commander to -100 something I was shocked.

Also I'd like to know how do you manage Chaos and Insanity... from my own point of view, these are really hard to obtain :\ Any suggestion ?

For the Dreadnought : being a Dread means that you have serious flaws with abilities, no more human, no more contact, it's a hell of a nightmare to play IMHO. You could use it for a mission only, but is it real fun playing a body attached to a machine ? How do you role play it ? Of course, you can take ideas from fluff, books, videogames (DoW 2) and the BT comic... but it has limits. They suggest in fact to use it as a support NPC charachter time to time.

Even if my player are veterans of the 40k universe with the tabletop gaming, the game has improved A LOT only lately. But there is the problem of using the Space Marine as a soldier without dreams or wills... they just follow the "normal wargaming fluff" of the 40k universe, wich is a shame IMHO.

Chances are I'll set up one-off scenarios for Death Watch if the group ever gets together again. I'll probably leave out the part that states they have to elect the squad leader and instead give that honour to my lovely friend, who will no doubt play the excellent bio-engineered ham squad commander, complete with list of generic one-liners that Astartes seem to spout all the time. I'll also be going with the tried and tested "Wing It" system where I'll just give them a mission, a secondary objective or two and let them decide on how to tackle it. Maybe I can get some use out of that drop pod at long last.

Reason for bieng so low, is because some players want to quit due to one of those TFG players we happen to have stumbled across. I enforce carrying capacity and whatnot, he thinks he should be able to carry as much as he wants, whenever he wants, and also whines because the game is "unbalanced".

Then don't play with him.

That was already the consensus of all the players and myself, I am just in here for the insight on the books, speaking of which, are there any new books coming that I should be ready to pre-order or find a good source ( IE Maelstrom ) to ship me a copy?

Only reason I ask is because I have no access to FFG's website.

Battlefleet Koronus is up next, but that depends on whether you care about Rogue Trader releases.

I get my copy of Rites of Battle today, provided UPS isn't lying...

At least I'll have something good to read while waiting for paint to dry!

Kanluwen wrote:I get my copy of Rites of Battle today, provided UPS isn't lying...

At least I'll have something good to read while waiting for paint to dry!

out of curiosity, where are you getting it from? since its mailed i'm assuming its not from a local store and most of the online book sellers don't have it in stock yet.