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The Warstore has it in stock.
It shipped on Tuesday(order was placed on Monday, only reason it shipped on Tuesday was I made a BW Bitz order for a pair of Devastator sprues that I'm doling out to my DA Successor's Devastator Squads).

ahh, thanks. my FLGS was only able to get a single copy in stock and that took two weeks after release as well as calling 5 different distributors (lol, code for i don't think i'll get another in stock soon).

btemple0 wrote:Reason for bieng so low, is because some players want to quit due to one of those TFG players we happen to have stumbled across. I enforce carrying capacity and whatnot, he thinks he should be able to carry as much as he wants, whenever he wants, and also whines because the game is "unbalanced".

In general, I haven't been really 'concerned' about carrying capacity in an RPG for over a decade. It is, generally, not-fun record-keeping.

The TFG needs to either find an RPG that is run the way he apparently wants (a precise tactical simulation of being a Space Marine) or learn to enjoy your game's style. There's room for all styles... I personally am not into ultra-abstract role-play only games as I like having some tactical-challenge fun, too.

My FLGS just doesn't stock FFG stuff, so I tend to get the books to read mostly.

Balance wrote:

btemple0 wrote:Reason for bieng so low, is because some players want to quit due to one of those TFG players we happen to have stumbled across. I enforce carrying capacity and whatnot, he thinks he should be able to carry as much as he wants, whenever he wants, and also whines because the game is "unbalanced".

In general, I haven't been really 'concerned' about carrying capacity in an RPG for over a decade. It is, generally, not-fun record-keeping.

The TFG needs to either find an RPG that is run the way he apparently wants (a precise tactical simulation of being a Space Marine) or learn to enjoy your game's style. There's room for all styles... I personally am not into ultra-abstract role-play only games as I like having some tactical-challenge fun, too.

i'm surprised that its a problem in deathwatch. marines can carry so much that it hasn't been an issue when we test calculated loads in the first game. if anything, i think the ability to carry a number of items within easy reach is more of a limiting factor than the actual Kg load. a marine can physically carry a missle launcher, heavy bolter, and plasma cannon (without backpack ammo for two of them of course) but that doesn't mean he can easily reach them to use. as a gm, the only time i'll ever even try to calculate it again is if a player is literally carrying another marine too sick to move on top of his normal gear and then wants to pick up something else.



this car is technically *carrying* all that but what you need in the heat of battle might be 10 minutes worth of unpacking in the middle.

Kanluwen wrote:My FLGS just doesn't stock FFG stuff, so I tend to get the books to read mostly.

that's a bit strange. is it a full service store or just a comic shop that carries a few things? FFG is a huge name in the board game market (probably the biggest seller outside of catan) and the third biggest RPG seller for the past year or so according to ICV. i can understand stores not carrying the smaller indie stuff but they're a fairly well known company in the hobby niche.

It's a full service store, but they just don't have the customer base for it here.

I like all of the RPG's for this thread, partially because of their modular nature, but then again I do lke how RT works with my gaming group.

And by capacity, I mean how much you can carry and still have useable, I do not see one space marine carrying 7 weapons and bieng capable of using it all within reason. Think of an actual person in the military carrying full combat load, plus an assault pack, anything you are carrying attached to your vest you have access to rather quickly, it is all within reach, anything in the ruck you have to actually have to stop, find the item, and that is entirely impractical in a firefight, personally I like to reward creativity, not see how much a player can buy and carry into a firefight.

More cool stuff for Deathwatch coming our way!



http://fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=1993

So we have a GM's Guide, a Player's Handbook and now a Monster Manual.

It's all coming together...

Monsters are always good to have, I could go with an excuse to purchase a trio of Carnifexes and sick them on those three idiots.

BrookM wrote:Monsters are always good to have, I could go with an excuse to purchase a trio of Carnifexes and sick them on those three idiots.

QFT

btemple0 wrote:Reason for bieng so low, is because some players want to quit due to one of those TFG players we happen to have stumbled across. I enforce carrying capacity and whatnot, he thinks he should be able to carry as much as he wants, whenever he wants, and also whines because the game is "unbalanced".

You sneek up behind him and do a GIBBS (slap around the back of the head)

My copy has arrived! I've begun creating my Dark Angels Successor Chapter.

Cool cover for Mark of the Xenos.

Really can't wait to see what's in that book.

Have orks and cone-headed china dolls been covered yet?

Orks and Eldar have been covered in a few other books in both DH and RT.

Hopefully it is a bit larger than Creatures Anathema, I would like to have a book with a ton of enemies in it, rather than Google-fu everything I want to have in an encounter. Not that the book was bad, I was just expecting a bit more IMHO.

Kanluwen wrote:My copy has arrived! I've begun creating my Dark Angels Successor Chapter.

Your head would detonate if I told you what I was creating.


GET ME MORE SODA!

When is this "monster manual" supposed to be released, I want to get some bad ideas for some encouters.

Spring, it says.

Good, that should give me time to get ready to review it, since I only just got my review of Rites of Battle in.

Well then I guess a copy will never reach me, we only have 1 season here, and it is all sand and sun

Can't wait!

btemple0 wrote:When is this "monster manual" supposed to be released, I want to get some bad ideas for some encouters.

you're not the only one.... my players will have a real bad time when that will get in my hands !

Pretty much a session willl become: "I need something big and killy, thats hard to kill."

btemple0 wrote:Pretty much a session willl become: "I need something big and killy, thats hard to kill."

Three words:

Chaos. Warhound. Titan.

I wrote that without a book, but I had to nix that, because the ultramarine whining would be enough of a gift to the chaos gods, and the titan would die of laughter.

Just as an FYI, you might get a kick out of looking over my Play-by-Post Deathwatch game ...

http://dw40k.freeforums.org/

Just bought "Rites of battle" the marine make-your-own-chapter addon.

Been holding on with space marine RPG all this time since deathwatch came out since I wanted to do a Salamanders or Raven Guard character but no salamanders or RG are to be seen in rites of battle, just a bunch of successors for the already-in-there chapters. Wow, thats logical indeed.
What a bummer!!!!

But you have the build your own... so just pick the combination that to you represent Ravenguard and and Salamanders.

it's really not too difficult and you can frankly specialize *too* much (read: cheese out) your custom chapter rules to suit an existing chapter. i've made up ravenguard rules and they were equisitely good at matching the novels (in that they were very perceptive and stealthy). i'd suggest letting the gm design the rules for existing chapters to make it a bit more fair. in our group, i will be designing the chapter rules for players along with the other co-gm instead of the players doing it themselves. we're still planning on allowing the custom rules for rolls but that will be strictly for player created chapters... they'll have to roll on all the tables (with a single reroll allowed at the end) to determine what their custom chapter gets and then build the fluff to match that.