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BaronIveagh wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

Ruarinator2 wrote:If you repeatedly fired an RPG at an unarmoured one he would explode like a balloon.

Corrected that for you.

I think we're running into two basic divides in this thread. GW's inconsistent levels of how absurdly superhuman SM are, and between people who have used these weapons and seen what they do and those that have not.

The old Belgian Blindicide loaded with HEAT can turn two or three feet of concrete to dust in a shot. They say it can pen 300mm plate, but never tried it.

I blame Call of Duty. Where surviving an AK-47 going full auto into you at point blank range is called "realism" (and "skillz")

A Town Called Malus wrote:

I blame Call of Duty. Where surviving an AK-47 going full auto into you at point blank range is called "realism" (and "skillz")

And shrapnel is a temporary thing rather then something that still hurts 20 years later.

So you wouldn't have to 'repeatedly' fire one?
One round will kill it outright?

IHateNids wrote:So you wouldn't have to 'repeatedly' fire one?
One round will kill it outright?

It's an RPG against an unarmoured SM.
No matter how hardcore they are, they're still made of flesh and bone versus a concussive force that can punch through armoured vehicles.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

IHateNids wrote:So you wouldn't have to 'repeatedly' fire one?
One round will kill it outright?

It's an RPG against an unarmoured SM.
No matter how hardcore they are, they're still made of flesh and bone versus a concussive force that can punch through armoured vehicles.

One thing that seems to get away from people around here is that it doesn't matter how uber your armor is, hit it with enough concussive force and you'll liquify the guys inside. A pal of my Dad's used to tell this story about a tank over running their base. This thing was going along like a murder machine, until all the sudden there was this huge assed explosion and the tank just stopped and idled there. So, they're sitting there, and finally one guy gets some frags and goes up to the side of the tank and opens the hatch. Crew was all dead. Apparently, as they had gone through the camp, they had set off somehow 500 lbs of comp b right next to the tank. Didn't pen it, but concussion and spalling did the job.

A spear that pierces his skull and enters his brain will kill a space marine.

So will a slit throat.

kronk wrote:A spear that pierces his skull and enters his brain will kill a space marine.

So will a slit throat.

Even given the auto-clotting, SM still need to breathe and eat, after all.

BaronIveagh wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

IHateNids wrote:So you wouldn't have to 'repeatedly' fire one?
One round will kill it outright?

It's an RPG against an unarmoured SM.
No matter how hardcore they are, they're still made of flesh and bone versus a concussive force that can punch through armoured vehicles.

One thing that seems to get away from people around here is that it doesn't matter how uber your armor is, hit it with enough concussive force and you'll liquify the guys inside. A pal of my Dad's used to tell this story about a tank over running their base. This thing was going along like a murder machine, until all the sudden there was this huge assed explosion and the tank just stopped and idled there. So, they're sitting there, and finally one guy gets some frags and goes up to the side of the tank and opens the hatch. Crew was all dead. Apparently, as they had gone through the camp, they had set off somehow 500 lbs of comp b right next to the tank. Didn't pen it, but concussion and spalling did the job.

Going on that note, (table-top fluff wise) Is that why MCs have 2d6 pen? they kick the tank hard and the crew dies?

Id of thought any weapon with high enough velocity / impact would kill a space marine if it hit him in the head, given it might not penetrate the armor but id of thought it would do a good job at breaking his neck.

Alternatively "nuke the site from orbit" comes to mind

I'm assuming that we are not including Nukes right?

Cluster bombs? Biological weapons?(No helmet) The dangerous stuff?

Sit him in front of a TV showing Big Brother, and he'll soon be eating his own face.

Avatar 720 wrote:Sit him in front of a TV showing Big Brother, and he'll soon be eating his own face.

Add Eastenders, Geordie Shore and Corrie to that list, then it would be true

IHateNids wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:Sit him in front of a TV showing Big Brother, and he'll soon be eating his own face.

Add Eastenders, Geordie Shore and Corrie to that list, then it would be true

And thus was Horus' soul blasted, utterly ravaged beyond existence by the Emperor's reality-TV/soap opera based attack, and the Warmaster removed not only from life but existence itself.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

IHateNids wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:Sit him in front of a TV showing Big Brother, and he'll soon be eating his own face.

Add Eastenders, Geordie Shore and Corrie to that list, then it would be true

And thus was Horus' soul blasted, utterly ravaged beyond existence by the Emperor's reality-TV/soap opera based attack, and the Warmaster removed not only from life but existence itself.

Makes more sense than a lot of stuff Mat Ward writes.

you know those fancy gatling guns they have on helicopters? Shooting a few hundred AT rounds per minute? That should do it.

A Nuclear Bomb
TESLA DEATH RAY
RAIL CANNON SHOT - Electro charged solid projetile traveling at half the speed of light trough a rail like barrel.
It does not hatter if its 38000 years into the future. A "soldier" surviving THAT is impossible. They CAN die after all!

I WIN!

Of course we could always sit them down and make em listen to some Justin Bieber music or something along the lines of 80's pop music!

I really think some people are emphasizing how super human space marines really are, although that is understandable considering how inconsistent 40k sm fluff has been.

As someone said earlier on, "It really depends on the author of the time"