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**tzurk**

Congrats on finishing the project man! The Horror-class Defiler turned out reaaaally cool, way nicer than the GW model. They look fantastic together, really evocative and dark.

It is a bit disheartening the way they've let R&H go as they are such an awesome part of the lore. Even mixed in with CSM the only love the range gets is those 5 monopose cultists...

You are in a bit of a tough spot. I can see counts as guard being the closest rules match but it does leave a bit lacking in fluff/theme for your dudes.

GSC is an interesting idea. Maybe the bigger daemon engines could counts as big Tyranid monster allies...might take some finagling and won't be as satisfying as pure R&H but something to look into.

Thanks for sharing the progress along the way! It has been a fun ride. Any word on what comes next?

**Not Online!!!**

tzurk wrote:
Congrats on finishing the project man! The Horror-class Defiler turned out reaaaally cool, way nicer than the GW model. They look fantastic together, really evocative and dark.

thanks , that reminds me, i completely forgot tomake the pics for Phyrax's warband together

It is a bit disheartening the way they've let R&H go as they are such an awesome part of the lore. Even mixed in with CSM the only love the range gets is those 5 monopose cultists...

Well that and when they remember that Alpha legion exists you might even get rules to work with them...
Still not a candle as to what the old R&H could represent lorewise.

You are in a bit of a tough spot. I can see counts as guard being the closest rules match but it does leave a bit lacking in fluff/theme for your dudes.

GSC is an interesting idea. Maybe the bigger daemon engines could counts as big Tyranid monster allies...might take some finagling and won't be as satisfying as pure R&H but something to look into.

Thanks for sharing the progress along the way! It has been a fun ride. Any word on what comes next?

Well,yeah you people already should know that i intend to go through with that whole daemoncult thingy.

A theme that i always felt came out short from GW's lore writting perspective, was the view upon the longterm effects of a rebellion like the 31. which succeed in undermining the IoM's authority to the point that even after being crushed reintegration of territory must be a massive chore.

I'd imagine that the patron of the first rebellion would kind of take center stage, and even though daemonic intrusions were limited within the 31. the auxilia allready showed signs of mutations, the Chaos marines especially. Now assume a revolt succeeds on multiple planets and achieves dominion over multiple star systems, the IoM's regular surpression would make any uprising that removes the oppressors look like the good guys. All these planets of course would've then still had garrisons. Not to mention that punishment would be handed out by the IoM galore for heresy and collaboration after a crushing defeat of the Rebels.

Now if the main faction/leader that ties this revolt together, as IA 13 told us, dies off, well, infighting ensues and fragmentation, right?
but wouldn't a last stand f.e. idolize the leader of the rebellion as a martyr against unjust rule from far away? Now imagine what would happen when that center stage figure, let's say Meinel, not only has such a last stand but also manages to impress his Patron god? Now add to that and assume he has impressed his patron well enough, so that instead of dying he "ascends" into daemonhood?

**Captain Brown**

There's more?

Nicely done.

CB

**Not Online!!!**

Captain Brown wrote:
There's more?

Nicely done.

CB

my bitz box is full and my access to 3rd parties not limited, neither my access really to GW.

So yes, there's more.

There's allways more Chaos from Not Online!!!

**gobert**

I love the army shots for Phyraxs warband and the 31. They both look fantastic, and as other have said the defiler is a real work of art! Can’t wait to see how you get on with your daemoncult

**Yorkright**

Wow that’s an impressive army! All of your conversions and hard work has got you a one of a kind army. Looking forward to the new additions.

**Not Online!!!**

gobert wrote:I love the army shots for Phyraxs warband and the 31. They both look fantastic, and as other have said the defiler is a real work of art! Can’t wait to see how you get on with your daemoncult

Well, i'd say on with the show?

Yorkright wrote: Wow that’s an impressive army! All of your conversions and hard work has got you a one of a kind army. Looking forward to the new additions.

Thanks much appreciated, it is indeed one type of an army.

Now behold some write nonsense in spoiler:

Spoiler:

Somewhere in a damp room with a singular overly bright light, a single General sits at a table, reading a report.
A door opens and a pale looking Astartes aswell as a singular Inquisitor enters.

"Your thoughts General Grant?" The inquisitor takes a seat in front of the general and indicating in a swift motion the report the General shortly after the entrance of the Inquisitor and his bodyguard had put down.

"Why, i like it, especially the " Due to the heroic intervention of the Star Sabres Chapter the losses have been minimal and controll over the subsector reestablished. The losses have been so minimal that we have decided to reward the regiments and chapter with the World of Darnos as theirs. " Yadda yadda ya, the emperor protects...
But, one thing i am curious about, well actually i am not , since i can count one and one together, why ...?"

" What can you tell us about General Meinel"

" Assuming i haven't heard from him in a while, and assuming that it was the subsector he ended up in. The subsector in question, and considering i am in an inquisitorial ..."

"Answer the blody question!" The first participation of the astartes in the interrogation, including the table being dented in due to it. General Grant seemed unpertubed beyond a slight sneering twitch.

"Again what do you know about General Mei.."

"Drop it Inquisitor, i can tell you all you want to know about the good general, but don't pretend you have a say about anything here. The truth is, you lot, fethed up. You underestimated him, and i assume he destroyed Darnos with most of your chapter on it aswell as the reinforcements in guard regiments. Isn't that right astartes?" A hand sign of the inquisitor prevented the Generals swift operation into something resembling at most the now dented in table in the midst of the group.

"What gave that away?"

"Son, i have been longer in the guard then you have been obviously in your profession, you don't get that luxury if you can't smell bs a mile away... and that "report" smells worse then a whole industrial level grox farm. "free retirement for valiant service", including a recently formed chapter getting the privilege of a world more or less for free aswell, the same world no less."

Behold greatcoat skirt daemon Meinel.

**Not Online!!!**

So, basically welcome to the amalgamation of khorne possessed count as acolyte hybrids:

Behold: An iconward. With you know, an icon... Also, i'd like to state to my adoptive GSC family that smoll flag is too smoll for Icons and flags.

And Endproduct:

Acolyte Champion:

metal groin plate for obvious easy removal of GSC symbols AND to hark back to old vraksian metal scraps armor...

The rest should follow today.

**KernelTerror**

Wooow, these works really well, well done !

**Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll**

Ok I'm very here for this concept! Can't wait to see how it works out!

**gobert**

These guys are coming together fantastically, I’m amazed how well the two themes mesh together. Will they be full on khornate red or have you something else in mind? I think white might look cool

**Not Online!!!**

KernelTerror wrote:Wooow, these works really well, well done !

Much appreciated Kernel

Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll wrote:Ok I'm very here for this concept! Can't wait to see how it works out!

Hopefully good, TBF, GSC are easy to toy and tinker around with, and the acolyths make for really good Possessed imo.

gobert wrote:These guys are coming together fantastically, I’m amazed how well the two themes mesh together. Will they be full on khornate red or have you something else in mind? I think white might look cool

They will be white, mostly, purple for regal stuff. Fur will be dark grey. Except Meinel he will have grey greatcoat skirt like he was. The daemonic bits will be black themed with a red wash/ drybrush.

So, first 5 finished, 10 more from the neophyte bodies incoming.

I also allready have a nice idea for a Nexos. Sanctus and kellermorph aswell. As a magus i will use the BSF psykers

**gobert**

The Colour scheme sounds cool, as does the BSF Psyker for a magus.

**Not Online!!!**

GW, has tactical rocks.
Not Online!!!: Has tactics on an improvised rock table.

What? Not Tacticool enough?

**Not Online!!!**

So, i made a sanctus, had a distinct lack off scopes though, well i found an old infiltrator boltgun:

And here's the endproduct. I gotta admit Wargames atlantic WW1 germans are a nice sculpt to tinker around with

And i also fixed the greatcoat a bit more for Meinel:

**Not Online!!!**

Well, next update:
Today, Some possessed, the namesake off the cult and a bit of an improvement to the sanctus:

And the acolytes: Btw, The letter sword is count as bonesword.

And the full units, to the left the 10 man squad with some power tools and an icon. to the right the small mini bully squad for bullying duties.

**tzurk**

Whoa, these are off to a flying start. What an awesome concept! So glad that it came together for you - the kits are a perfect match. Looks like a good opportunity to flex the green stuff muscles too.

Really loving this project already, and you are flying through the builds - looking forward to more!

**Not Online!!!**

Spoiler:

Voila, Kellemorph count as

**Yorkright**

Whoa, great bunch of conversion Not Online! I love your green stuff cloaks, again another great addition to your army.

**Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll**

Loving these conversions! The Kellermorph is great. No way of sticking a third gun on him though is there? Servo-arm around his side or something? No, would likely be too busy

**Not Online!!!**

Yorkright wrote: Whoa, great bunch of conversion Not Online! I love your green stuff cloaks, again another great addition to your army.

Well, they are easy to make

Well easier then this little thing here...

Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll wrote:Loving these conversions! The Kellermorph is great. No way of sticking a third gun on him though is there? Servo-arm around his side or something? No, would likely be too busy

actually the third arm drawing a pistol always irked me, also this dude uses autopistols so probably no need for a 3rd one

Anyway...

Whilest i am still visibly at heart a maddoc / Madmek boy i do and can kitbash, quite well i'd say(?)

but erm

Painting, especially white and other "light colours"

yeah

literally me

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tzurk wrote:
Whoa, these are off to a flying start. What an awesome concept! So glad that it came together for you - the kits are a perfect match. Looks like a good opportunity to flex the green stuff muscles too.

Really loving this project already, and you are flying through the builds - looking forward to more!

thanks, it's a very easily enjoyable concept, so it helps.

Also, it's another step at improving my painting skills ... with hopefully decent results

First bunch:

I certainly need to get tidier.

Other than that? Highlighting to be done. then on to the daemonic bits...

Btw has anyone a good recipe for snow bases?

**Not Online!!!**

Well, first testing done, also, will probably make grey / brass armor bits.

also, the flag is black because it will be needed to have a darker purple.

**gobert**

Good start, the white looks pretty good. As for being neat, it’s better to just slap on the primary basecoats quickly. Neatness is for adjoining colours then! I find good old Agrax and Nuln oil hide most of my sins

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gobert wrote:
Good start, the white looks pretty good. As for being neat, it’s better to just slap on the primary basecoats quickly. Neatness is for adjoining colours then! I find good old Agrax and Nuln oil hide most of my sins

I doubt i'll shade beyond the recesses on fabric and skin this time, (well beyond human flesh, agrax OP pls nerf)

Your thoughts' are appreciated on these fellows, this time i am testing the skin for the daemons.

I really like the overall diffrent shades i got from the red. Makes them less uniform which is always good for possessed imo..

**Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll**

Great red-brown there. Lots of room for variation. You could even use skin colour variation to show how "daemony" any specific unit is, with the more red, the closer to Bloodletter, the more brown, the less the mutation.

**Not Online!!!**

Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll wrote:
Great red-brown there. Lots of room for variation. You could even use skin colour variation to show how "daemony" any specific unit is, with the more red, the closer to Bloodletter, the more brown, the less the mutation.

Thanks,

I think it looks pretty good

**Yorkright**

I agree, they are looking good!

**Not Online!!!**

I dare say they are probably my best work and the most ammount of skill i poured into 2 units of troops.
Not too shabby for a centerpiece for a daemonkin army

**Not Online!!!**

I lied, it's actually purple and white and red

Thoughts on the nexus and the banner colour?

**Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll**

Liking it so far!