Does anyone hate a non-standard army (or for a non standard reason?)

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**the_scotsman**

For reference, standard armies/reasons:

Space Marines: "Cheesy formations/why doesn't GW release stuff for my army instead of more space marines?!?"

Necrons: "grr cheesy decurion"

Tau: "I just wanted a sword fight but he shoot all my doods"

Eldar: "RAAAARGHKLFGLGHHJHHJH they Turk mah jerrrrrbs Scatterbikes cheesy d weapon wraith serpentshield knightstar cheesy cheddar argh"

So, beyond those, from whence does your rage burn and your salt flow? For me, it's all about the freaking hats. Every time I look at a Cadian or Eldar, I am overcome with anger because WHY would you put that silly thing on your head????!?!??

**Champion of Slaanesh**

Tyranids because they are wannabe Necromorphs but not as good

**Rune Stonegrinder**

I hate the current troop selection for Imperial Guard: starship troopers (Cadian), vietnam vets (Catachans), or my more expensive choices are DKOK, and Elysians. I'm glad I have a complete Steel Legion at home. I need to pump out heavy weapon teams in resin at some point.

**die toten hosen**

Orks, specifically the green tide, its gonna get to and destroy whatever it touches no doubt. This formation is the bane of my exsistence as tau.

Tyranids, the codex is better then what the internet says it is.

Play against a guy who runs blood angels with a nemesis strike force. He went largely undefeated for about 6 months. Blood angels are hardecore

**pumpinchimp**

Not a fan of chaos demons. Just don't like the look of most of the models.

**Brennonjw**

Dark Eldar, as much as I love the models and some of the rules, I just can't get behind "so edgy and evil that it's funny"

**Yarium**

I don't "hate" the Tau, but I just never see myself playing them. I really dislike the manga/japanese style. It's part of the marketing of them as a faction and while I won't decry anyone for picking them up because they love that style so much, but I just can't get on board with them. Which is unfortunate, because I love their rules!

Every time I look at Daemons, I want to see square bases. Age of Sigmar will help quell this from my mind, but for now it still bugs me. After all, it's hip to be a square! (Yarium starts dancing)

I own Tyranids, they're my first 40k love. BUT FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY - I CAN'T KEEP THEM STANDING UP AND THEIR SPIKES STICK TO EVERYTHING! RAAAAARR! Seriously, transporting them has been so annoying... since always and likely forever.

**jreilly89**

Necrons, only because it's literally drybrush silver and your whole army is done. My friend actually mixes it up and runs some bronze Wraiths and Warriors and it looks really good.

**clamclaw**

pumpinchimp wrote:
Not a fan of chaos demons. Just don't like the look of most of the models.

Yeah Daemons for me are a no-go, which sucks cause I play CSM. I know they're effective on the tabletop, but aesthetically not enough of their models really jump out at me. They range from kooky-goofy to over-the-top grotesque. But they're all so spindly and lack substance. I want a big hulking beast of a Daemon that looks as scary as it plays.

**Frozocrone**

Tyranids: So monobuild in this dex and the previous one that it's killed my desire to play them even though I've amassed a might collection.

Tau/Necrons: Ignore basic rules such as casualties, cover, movement. Fun.

SM/Ad Mech: So many books for them when it could just be compiled into one. Also super friends because why not.

**die toten hosen**

Frozocrone wrote:
Tyranids: So monobuild in this dex and the previous one that it's killed my desire to play them even though I've amassed a might collection.

Tau/Necrons: Ignore basic rules such as casualties, cover, movement. Fun.

SM/Ad Mech: So many books for them when it could just be compiled into one. Also super friends because why not.

Lol at ignoring casualties

**PandaHero**

really... I have no idea what you mean by non-standard army.

Also, I have no idea why everybody seemed to understand, but I didn't...

I'm a sad panda :(

**vipoid**

GKs because facing Draigo and double NDK every game gets really old really fast.

**Psienesis**

Champion of Slaanesh wrote:
Tyranids because they are wannabe Necromorphs but not as good

You're kidding, right?

**Hawky**

I dont like Space Marines for being overused ( both Tabletop and Fluff), overrated and overpowered (standart reason however)...

**TheCustomLime**

Tyranids because the idea of living technology is stupid.

Necrons because they are oh so invincible and awesome in the lore.

Dark Eldar because they are just super edgy Space Elves. Boring.

Militarium Tempestus Scions: Stupid name, overpriced Guardsmen models and they don't have enough units to be justified as their own faction.

Space Wolves: A 13 year old's Space Marine fan chapter made canon. Lame.

Officio Assablahblah: Why are they their own Codex?

Adepta Sororitas: Holy sweet emphrah their prices. Their models are dated and all metal. Please, GW, update this otherwise cool faction.

**Selym**

Imperial Guard: General lack of vehicles. Yes. I did just say that. Don't look at me sideways, many IG players will tell you that there are never enough tanks.

Space Marines: I cannot stress this enough, I HATE THAT FETHING BLUE AND GOLD PAINTSCHEME, IT CAN FETH OFF AND DIE AS EVEYTIME I SEE ANYTHING TO DO WITH 40K THOSE DAMN SMURFS TURN UP AND RUIN IT FOR ME!

/rant

**vipoid**

TheCustomLime wrote:
Tyranids because the idea of living technology is stupid.

Necrons because they are oh so invincible and awesome in the lore.

Dark Eldar because they are just super edgy Space Elves. Boring.

Militarium Tempestus Scions: Stupid name, overpriced Guardsmen models and they don't have enough units to be justified as their own faction.

Space Wolves: A 13 year old's Space Marine fan chapter made canon. Lame.

Officio Assablahblah: Why are they their own Codex?

Adepta Sororitas: Holy sweet emphrah their prices. Their models are dated and all metal. Please, GW, update this otherwise cool faction.

Are there any armies you like?

**TheCustomLime**

vipoid wrote:
TheCustomLime wrote:
Tyranids because the idea of living technology is stupid.

Necrons because they are oh so invincible and awesome in the lore.

Dark Eldar because they are just super edgy Space Elves. Boring.

Militarium Tempestus Scions: Stupid name, overpriced Guardsmen models and they don't have enough units to be justified as their own faction.

Space Wolves: A 13 year old's Space Marine fan chapter made canon. Lame.

Officio Assablahblah: Why are they their own Codex?

Adepta Sororitas: Holy sweet emphrah their prices. Their models are dated and all metal. Please, GW, update this otherwise cool faction.

Are there any armies you like?

I like all of the other armies for various reasons but that's not what this thread is about. It's about pure negativity.

**ChiliPowderKeg**

Armies that have mass flying bases whenever I field them because I'm a stickler for keeping the 2 pieces separate for transport capacity's sake.

It took me a while to get a lot of these drones on the board when ~5 mass dropped in

**PandaHero**

WTH, SO MMMMUUUCCCHHHH DRRROOONNNNE

**vipoid**

On a similar note - My Necrons, because the bloody destroyers barely even fit on their stupid flying bases, let alone stay on them.

**Vaktathi**

the_scotsman wrote:
For reference, standard armies/reasons:

Space Marines: "Cheesy formations/why doesn't GW release stuff for my army instead of more space marines?!?"

Necrons: "grr cheesy decurion"

Tau: "I just wanted a sword fight but he shoot all my doods"

Eldar: "RAAAARGHKLFGLGHHJHHJH they Turk mah jerrrrrbs Scatterbikes cheesy d weapon wraith serpentshield knightstar cheesy cheddar argh"

So, beyond those, from whence does your rage burn and your salt flow? For me, it's all about the freaking hats. Every time I look at a Cadian or Eldar, I am overcome with anger because WHY would you put that silly thing on your head????!?!??

I always thought the Vostroyan models were so cool...except the hats. If they'd had helmets or something, sure, but the big bearskin caps just don't do it for me. Likewise, Cadian helmets look stupid and their facial expressions make them look like they're painfully constipated. I switch out the heads on mine with Pig Iron Productions Kolony Militia heads. Catachan's are just...beyond saving.

As for armies I genuinely dislike for other reasons? There' a variety of issues, and quite often it's not even necessarily with the faction itself but rather the playerbase.

Space Wolves. Their fluff and writing is truly abysmal, infuriatingly arrogant, contradictory, absurd, and wasteful of so much potential to be cool. They're just awful. Also the very concept of Thunderwolves is stupid.

Likewise, I *want* to like the Militarum Tempestus Scions stuff, I always wanted a Stormtrooper army, but between the stupid faux-latin renaming, terrible tabletop functionality, and "harry potter snuff fanfic" Schola fluff, they just come off really badly.

Blood Angels are another faction I have some issues with, but not really because of the faction itself. The issue really is just that every time I've ever had to play against them, the BA player was a massive TFG except in maybe one instance. Either outright cheating, whiny and unpleasant to be around, or in at least two cases, both. Also, I really don't think they need to be their own distinct faction. Likewise with Dark Angels, being their own distinct faction seems to simply be a matter of inertia rather than anything else. I actually don't mind the fluff of either chapter mostly, but the hamfisting in of stuff unique to these armies (like the DA's own unique aircraft), particularly when their fluff has long stated that they are largely codex adherent, seems to be done simply to go out of their wayt o justify their existence as a distinct faction, which to me sounds both counterproductive and counter to their long established fluff.

Now, I like Eldar as a faction, in fact, I've got 4-4.5k points of them, but I really dislike the common "well, they should be better...just because...well, elves should just be better!" mentality that seems to be common with that faction that can seemingly always excuse any balance issues with the faction and justify across the board stat increases. The fact that every edition they get a codex for they end up being pretty broken doesn't help.

With Necrons, gameplay issues aside, I'm just not a fan of their fluff. The "WHFB Tomb Kings...but in SPAAAACE!" reboot they got felt both lazy and paint-by-numbers boring.

Also Khorne Daemonkin. Not so much what it is, but what it represents, which is GW's willful blindness and seemingly intentional desire to avoid doing anything related to the original Legions.

**Selym**

Vaktathi wrote:

Also Khorne Daemonkin. Not so much what it is, but what it represents, which is GW's willful blindness and seemingly intentional desire to avoid doing anything related to the original Legions.

It's like the British tendency to assume that, due to WW1 and WW2, Germany has always been at least a little evil, and thus does not deserve to win anything. It's not true, but leaves some people feeling rather strange about rooting for them.

GW is thinking to itself "Well, they are the baddies of 40k, so why should they win anything?". Totally glossing over what the legions are supposed to stand for.

**Psienesis**

I don't like the Kroot... they wet their nests!

**vipoid**

Space Wolves - please choose between having wolf pets and wearing their pelts. Doing both is just weird. "Hey, Mr. Wolf, want to be my friend? Hmm? What's this around my shoulders? Oh, just your sister's skin. So, want to be best buds? Wait! Where are you going? Come back!"

DA/BA - do these armies still need their own books? It seems like there's very little in either that couldn't be represented by Chapter Tactics.

Selym wrote:
Vaktathi wrote:

Also Khorne Daemonkin. Not so much what it is, but what it represents, which is GW's willful blindness and seemingly intentional desire to avoid doing anything related to the original Legions.
It's like the British tendency to assume that, due to WW1 and WW2, Germany has always been at least a little evil, and thus does not deserve to win anything. It's not true, but leaves some people feeling rather strange about rooting for them.

GW is thinking to itself "Well, they are the baddies of 40k, so why should they win anything?". Totally glossing over what the legions are supposed to stand for.

GW seems to have a general tendency to make the 'hero' races far stronger and better equipped than the 'villain' ones. Compare Eldar to Dark Eldar, SMs to CSMs etc.

**reevesshady**

I play Harlequins, but I dislike all of their models that use the flying bases. For some reason GW made the holes too small and the bases won't fit. I bump a Skyweaver and it falls over (much like when it gets wounded in a game)!

I also dislike that people call them Space Clowns... they are clearly Space Shakespearean Actors. To feth or not to feth, that is the question

**Selym**

reevesshady wrote:
I play Harlequins, but I dislike all of their models that use the flying bases. For some reason GW made the holes too small and the bases won't fit. I bump a Skyweaver and it falls over!

I also dislike that people call them Space Clowns... they are clearly Space Shakespearean Actors. To feth or not to feth, that is the question

"Tu Feth" is the answer.

No, I did not misspell, though my grammar may be off.

**Grimmor**

die toten hosen wrote:
Orks, specifically the green tide, its gonna get to and destroy whatever it touches no doubt. This formation is the bane of my exsistence as tau.

.....what??? You should be blasting the Tide off the board! Its a giant walking target and you have enough AP 4 range Yes weapons to completely demolish it. What are you running pure Kroot?

On topic, Space Wolves. I am all for Space Marine Vikings, i am all for genetically modified super wolves, hell i can live with Thundercavalry (exclusively because Rule of Cool). However i cannot forgive their blatant denial of the fact that their "Priests" are fething Sorcerers!! That plus the fact that they are, to often, raging douche bags and i just cant deal with them. Apparently Logan Grimnar is actually a really cool guy, you just wouldnt know it from his codex.

**CrashGordon94**

Blood Angels: EW VAMPIRES!
Space Wolves: EW WEREWOLVES!
Red Scorpions: EW NAZIS!
VERY atypical, it would seem. Not that people haven't NOTICED these elements, but nobody else I've spoken to directly and genuinely loathes these Chapters for these specific reasons.
On a similar note I don't hate them at all but I'm uncomfortable with/unwilling to play Salamanders because of the whole racism issue and that's DEFINITELY a non-standard reason to want to avoid a faction, everyone I've spoken to about this (besides the guy who got me into 40k), thinks I'm a loon for saying it at all, including those on this site. I just can't shake the uncomfortable feeling that I'd be accused of racism for playing them and such (it was said that anyone who said that isn't worth playing with, still would fething hurt and I don't want yet another limiting factor on who I can play with).
Also non-standard factions but standard reasons:
Adeptus Mechanicus: Their stupid, Luddite, anti-progressive attitude towards technological innovations.
Inquisition: They seem to be "too grimdark", one might say. That is, they're definitely grim and gritty but not in an entertaining or interesting way. More pointless "edginess" and "look how depressing and unpleasant we can make the fluff!" than anything else. Beyond that, their design is very much all over the place and a bit of a mish-mash of various Imperial factions all rolled together.

Also absolutely NOT hate but a faction I don't want to play against at all for a non-standard reason...
Dark Angels: I play them, this would get confusing.